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hi guys,.. been thinking about this for a number of years now and would just like some advice if possible.

 

im a 42 year old pensions manager for a city councill in the uk,.. and have been working for local govournment in this or similar rolls most of my adult working life,..ive examined the skills ocupation list,. but im not entirely sure if my profession is actually on it or not,.... i see "generall manager" and "hr manager" and my job as the manager of the pensions departments is a little of both,

 

does anyone think that my career does come under the skills on the list?,...if so what is the next step for me to look into this further?

 

and what about my age? 42!. could this be a bg black mark against me?

 

also im in a same sex long term relationship,... my partner and i have been together over 7 years and lived together for most of that,.my partners job skill (retail manager,. age 30) doesnot show on the s-o-l list,..so would there be someway that he could come with me on some kind of dependancy visa? (does oz even allow gay couples to migrate in this way?)

 

as you can see its farly complicated for me,.. and im starting to wonder if its really if it would be something that would jsut never happen becuase of these issues

 

so anyway,.. any help or advice you guys could provide me would be great

 

thanx :smile:

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hi gamwam. Welcome to PIO. Yes Australia allows gay couples in long-term relationships to migrate just like married hetero couples!! I'm an Aussie lawyer (not an immigration laywer I want to add) who reads this website a bit and I felt proud to be Australian when I found out earlier this year that they allow gay couples to migrate.

 

I will try to answer your questions in detail later today (I'm in New York City and my working day is just starting) but wanted to reply quickly. The age limit is generally 45 yrs so you are fine. Most skills based visas require a points calculation. 120 points is required for the 175 visa which does not require a job offer or state government sponsorship or family sponsorship but these visas are not being processed at the moment due to the global financial crisis. There is a similar visa called the 176 visa and that only requires 100 points and also, like the 175, gives permanent residency from the beginning. Then there is the 121 visa which gives PR immediately if you have an employer nominate you (basically they offer you a job). There are several other skills based visas too but just wanted to give you a quick summary.

 

With your role you will need to provide more info on what you do as pension manager. For instance, do you decide on the types of investments to be made for the pension funds? Just wondering if you could be classified as being in some kind of financial manager/advisor role.

 

You should take a look at the Dept of Immi (DIAC) website--see www.immi.gov.au and in the top right hand corner search box look for 175 and 176. it will bring up info on those visas to begin with.

 

There are other links to provide you with but I have to dash right now. Just wanted to give you some initial things to consider.


Sandra Maxfield LLB (Hons), BA

www.eurekamigration.com; Lawyer admitted in Victoria, Australia & New York, USA. MARN 1066311

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ps--also do you have any uni degree or other qualifications? Or did you learn on the job? The latter may not be a problem as the Aussie skills assesment process does recognise learning on the job.


Sandra Maxfield LLB (Hons), BA

www.eurekamigration.com; Lawyer admitted in Victoria, Australia & New York, USA. MARN 1066311

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Hi,

 

melbournegirlinny has given you some good starting advice. The other thing to look at is the ASCO dictionary, soon to be replaced with the ANZSCO version, which lists every occupation you can possibly have.

 

DIAC/TRA?VETASSESS etc do not go by job titles otherwise Australia would be flooded by Chinese 'Accountants' whose skill base is no better than a book-keeper.

 

First of all you need to work from an accurate job description and find an ASCO code to match as closely as possible, then go from there.

 

Same sex couples are termed 'Interdependent' in migration law and are treated no different to hetero de factos.

 

Cheers,

 

Les


Les Mighalls BDS LLB(Hons) LDS FACLM, MARA Reg. No. 0639714

Migration Assistance Australia

www.migrationassistance.com.au

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Guest gamwam

wow thanx for the info,.... im sure it will be of some help

 

in reply to melbournegirlinny,. im a employed by local govournment via the city council,. and im the manager of a team of administrators that run the "HR and personel" side of pensions administration,..in otherwords me and my team contorl the city councils 12.000 employes pensions benifits packages as well as handleing redundancies.

 

along side the "HR payroll" department we work together to ensure all the city councils staffing issues are delt with properly,.. and both department managers answer to a generall "pensions and payroll" manager,.(a step above me)

 

unfortunatley i dont have any financial qualifications as such,. and have done all my learning "on the job" and attained plenty of knowledge on the legal side of "all things pensions" through many years of working in the sector for local govournment, .as well as attending a number of cources to keep ahead of any changes

 

hope this is helpfull somewhat,. again thanx for your info guys,. :biggrin:

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Hi,

 

There is some really good advice above. I have worked in a similar role, specialising in pensions and management of staff/department. I have given considerable amount of investment advise to clients as a part of this role and I am applying for NSW state sponsorship as financial investment advisor. NSW and ACT are currently still sponsoring financial advisors, once you have a degree, a certain amount of experience and passes the IELTS tests.

 

The pensions industry is very big in Australia as Superannuation is compolsory and despite the economic climate I think there would always be a relatively active market for pensions/superannuation advisors and management. In order to give financail advice you need to be accredited and have passed the Diploma in Financial Planning. This can be done by distance learning and is not overly complicated.

 

Let me know if I can be of any help

 

regards

 

Karl


Karl, Sue and Jessica (3)

1/5/09 positive skills assessment 2/5/09 NSW 176 SS application sent (Financial Investment Advisor) 29/5/09 NSW SS approved 30/5 DIAC online. 24/7 Visa granted!!!

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Hi,

 

There is some really good advice above. I have worked in a similar role, specialising in pensions and management of staff/department. I have given considerable amount of investment advise to clients as a part of this role and I am applying for NSW state sponsorship as financial investment advisor. NSW and ACT are currently still sponsoring financial advisors, once you have a degree, a certain amount of experience and passes the IELTS tests.

 

The pensions industry is very big in Australia as Superannuation is compolsory and despite the economic climate I think there would always be a relatively active market for pensions/superannuation advisors and management. In order to give financail advice you need to be accredited and have passed the Diploma in Financial Planning. This can be done by distance learning and is not overly complicated.

 

Let me know if I can be of any help

 

regards

 

Karl


Karl, Sue and Jessica (3)

1/5/09 positive skills assessment 2/5/09 NSW 176 SS application sent (Financial Investment Advisor) 29/5/09 NSW SS approved 30/5 DIAC online. 24/7 Visa granted!!!

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Thanks for that further info gamwam. May I ask you a few more questions re you role? Do you deal with employee questions say on their pension or benefits (holiday, sick leave) etc? I am still not totally clear either whether you are involved at all in the decisions made on where the pension funds are invested to make them grow etc. If you want to describe your role in more detail that would help us find which ASCO code you might fit under and then, as Les mentions, you need to determine which Australian authority would be responsible for assessing your skills to see if you can be said to have the equivalent of an Aussie qualification. Just to explain a bit further, if one does not have a degree or, for tradesmen, an apprenticeship, then you still have the chance of getting in based on your skills via something called Pathway E.

 

Look at the description and info for 'HR Manager' in this link: Human Resource Manager 1213-11 - Australian Skills Recognition Information

 

It says the assessing authority for this role is the Australian Institute of Management and there is a link to their website which hopefully will tell you what you need to provide for a skills assessment (assuming this fits what you do in your job). You may be able to fit some kind of financial advisor role but I need more details of what your job entails.


Sandra Maxfield LLB (Hons), BA

www.eurekamigration.com; Lawyer admitted in Victoria, Australia & New York, USA. MARN 1066311

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Some more information for you to consider. Look at this link which takes you to all the state government immigration websites. You should search them to see on each state's skilled sponsor list if they are sponsoring an HR Manager. If not, are they sponsoring some other job/role that you might fit into? Having state sponsorship is the name of the game at the moment because without it the 175 visas are currently not being processed.

 

State & Territory Migration Sites - australia.gov.au


Sandra Maxfield LLB (Hons), BA

www.eurekamigration.com; Lawyer admitted in Victoria, Australia & New York, USA. MARN 1066311

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