pbishop Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Firstly, congratualtions on a great site with priceless information. I've used this for a lot of research, but have a specific question, so this is my first post. I've just started looking in moving from the UK to Aus, and have quickly realised that I need to get cracking on the Visa as a priority. I think that I'm clear about my options. I've taken a couple of the on-line tests, and it looks like I score 110, so I've been focusing on the state sponsored 176 option. Here's my question. I'm an IT professional with 20 years experience (technical & management.) My recent experience (past 8 years) has been in the role of Service Delivery Manager (and more recently managing a team of Service Delivery Managers.) The closest match that I can find for this on the skills list is: IT Manager 1224-11. However, this doesn't help a lot, as this is not listed on most of the local skill in demand lists (particularly as Victoria removed it today !) What I have found is 'Computer Professionals not elsewhere classified 2231-79. The description of this is essentailly what the title says. Given that my role is widely recognised (there are plenty of Service Delivery Manager roles on Aus job sites) and that I have formal qualifications (ITIL) what are the chances that the ACS would accept an application for this category ? Also, if I could get classified as this, would it help me as it is on the MODL ? Sorry for the lengthy post. Any advice with this would be much appreciated. I didn't realise that this would be so confusing or stressful ! :arghh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ozcans Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Hi pbishop Welcome to PiO You could contact PTLabs who I`m sure would be able to sort any confusion. They specialise in ACS assessments and all the ins and outs of IT visa applications. Good Luck. Sue x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbishop Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Thanks Sue. I will get in contact with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juliemtaylor Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 we are using Peter and he is very good, worth the small payment for the quick assessment he can do for you and he really does answer quite quickly and in detail. Good luck Julie IT WAG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Hello pbishop Welcome to Poms in Oz. I agree with the others. Peter Chiam from Ptlabs Consulting is the guy who could give you the best help and he is now offering initial assessments for free: Ptlabs Consulting Peter is the bees knees for migrants who need to rely on IT skills. He is very, very sure footed about what is possible and what isn't, plus he is an IT guru himself so he knows what you are talking about. Nothing with Peter is bluster. Best wishes Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Defintely seek expert advise, my OH reckons he could not have done his ACS assessment without it. But to give you a few pointers as I understand it is getting ACS approval as a 'Computing Professional' will be straightforward for you - if you have an IT degree I'd go so far as to say 'easy' but even without I see no reason why you wouldn't achieve it through RPL given 20 years wide experience. However 20 years experience means you must be 40+ and without knowing all your details I would think you would need a MODL specialism - and from the PTLabs site these are currently CISSP C++/C#/C Data Warehousing Java J2EE Firewall/Network/Internet Security DotNet Oracle PeopleSoft SAP Siebel Solaris Unix Linux However you do only need 12 months experience in the last 4 (and this doesn't need to be 12 months full time continuous so lets say 25% of your work is focussed on Firewall security issues (for example) then you might be able to pull it off (so long as your referees support your claim) If you really cannot support a claim like this & have enough time on your side CISSP could be one route & having dipped in and out the manual I would expect a lot of it is familiar ground as a SDM. Otherwise there may be state sponsorship for non-MODL IT professionals. SA offered to sponsor me (I'm a QA Manager) & I believe Victoria was also an option. The lists change so I'm not up to date. In summary ACS - hard work but you should fly through it & get the 60 points, getting the 15 for MODL not so straight forward. What about employer sponsorship as an option though? These are hard times in IT (same as the rest of the world) & I am so pleased we came out with jobs and a relocation package. You'll hear bad stuff about the sponsored route but that seems to apply mainly to trades with a big corporate IT employer the risks are much less, you do have to be prepared to move fast though - our visa took 3 weeks and a month later we were here! Our 175 is still going on in the background so we hope to get permanent residency in the next 12 months but even without that we can apply after 2 years. Good luck - there will be many confusing and stressful times ahead but IMHO it's worth it. Jules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrounders Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Just for my own curiosity.... What exacty is a 'Service Delivery Manager'? and also... is there a collective noun for 'Service Delivery Managers'? Sorry to come across a bit thick. Sharon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 It's the person responsible for ensuring the IT provider (whether a department or the same company or another company) provides and can continue to provide the IT services the business requires - it includes things like Service Level Agreements (e.g. how quickly a fault will be investigated), Performance Indicators (e.g. Critical System available at least 99% each month), planning for increases in demand for a service, planning for disasters - natural or otherwise annd the financial management of IT budgets. I guess Service Support fix problems that occur, Service Delivery plan ahead to prevent problems occuring, in my job I am involved in handing systems over from development to service delivery and have to convince them they are 'fit for purpose'. I'm sure the OP will add to this! As for a collective noun - no official ones but I'm sure I could have fun thinking some up, they might not be too complimentary though )) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrounders Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Thanks for that Jules. I've led a sheltered life lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbishop Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 Thanks for the advice everyone. Just for the record, I think a fitting term for a collective might be a 'gaggle' or 'skive' ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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