jamesandsarah Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Hi is any one doing or has done the MRAEL Electrical gap course for a Queensland electrical licence? within the last year? I've already emigrated and I'm carrying out the course but I'm finding the course assessor less than helpful. On certain questions there is no guide to how complex the answer needs to be. If anyone is doing it and wants to swap ideas re answers please feel free to message me thanks James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharne00 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Hi James i am currently doing the same course and have nothing but trouble with the tutor and the questions. I would be happy to speak to you more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arronjj Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Eltonb how hard did you find it to get supervised quirk in Melbourne and what is the pay at that level, as I am thinking of coming out to Melbourne but unsure because of the cost of living/wages and if you can actually get supervised quite easily. Thanks in advanceSent from my iPhone using PomsinOz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1spark Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 On 21/12/2008 at 9:37 PM, Guest James.S said: unrestricted license hello people just a little info regarding the electrical license issues in Victoria: its almost impossible to get a restricted license & then again 99% of company's wont employ you due to the fact your not allowed to work alone & your also not allowed to sign of for any jobs you perform you shall be supervised continually until you pass exams for the A class unrestricted license. the fines are horrific for people who do the wrong thing in this game. I would say over here lots of Sparkies (Aussies) are shit how some have obtained a license is beyond me Arthur no1spark@yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arronjj Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Arthur,That was my concern as I didn't want to pay all the visas , shipping etc to then struggle to get employed under a restricted licence. My friend moved over and said I would get a job at easily but he is a plumber. Maybe it is different in other parts of Australia but it was Melbourne I was hoping to go to. Glad someone has finally said before I put money into it only to be disappointed.Sent from my iPhone using PomsinOz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltonb Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Hi Arron I can assure you it is not hard to find work in Melbourne sorry no1spark you are way off with the way off with that info unless you can back that up you should not be feeding people with that as that what you wrote could put someone off from coming to Melbourne when it is so wrong thing dont work like what you read on the esv website, how is it impossible to get a restricted license please explain, me and my 3 mates plus the other 4 guys on the gap training must be the 1% in your closed mind The job i found when I had my restricted license I worked with someone for a week then I was in a car on my own on an Agrades wage running jobs because I said to my boss from day 1 I no what im doing you will be getting agrade class of work obviously better than Agrade because i was trained in the uk haha I also said if you want to pay me apprentice wages i can act like an apprentice its up to you, all I had to do when i was getting to grips with regs at the start is ring him when i was not sure to double check i was doing things right, I met guys on the gap training and 3 of us became good friends and they are working for companies with the same role that i had and they are still on a restricted license In my eyes an electrical license is a bit of plastic that gives ESV the right to screw you in the arse if you mess up, because it proves that you have done the exams that "make you understand what is right and wrong" but everyone here dose what they like anyway on site but they think for some reason the are the best trained in the world and have to strongest regs in the world as the get told that as college and i can 100% say to anyone thinking of coming to aus you will get a shock from how they do things out here you may also get treated like an idiot at first but when they see you quality of work the aussies give you respect 1 quick thing for the cost of living when you start living here and your earning the $ stop converting everything to pound you will find that the cost of living is not bad at all. when you in the uk and your converting everything from $ to pound it seems expensive if you want any info Arron PM me i will give you my details and help you where i can Elton b Edited May 12, 2017 by Eltonb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arronjj Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Thank you Elton b appreciate thisSent from my iPhone using PomsinOz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstott1980 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I came over with Vetassess on a PR visa and worked for a contracting company as an unlicensed Electrician in Western Sydney. I am doing the gap training now, years later, in Brisbane via distancelearning. Contact Skillstech for more information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arronjj Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Thank you mark I will look into skills tech . Appreciate the repliesSent from my iPhone using PomsinOz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1spark Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 16 hours ago, Eltonb said: Elton, now then let me say im not knocking your skills at all i know the Uk skill sets are fantastic, however what your saying is incorrect, your NOT allowed to work alone unsupervised without the full license, i don't care what you told any employer its ILLEGAL in Victoria, as for negotiating any pay scale good luck to you i don't think most people can do that. if you still think you can perform work on your own then give me your so called restricted license & we shall see how far you get, i can assure you now the company & you shall be in court. Restricted licenses are for people doing Air Con installs & restricted work unless ESV have changed the set up but please think before you make comments on what legal & not. you & your friends may be able to work with an full license holder but NOT you with out the right licenses what if something was to go wrong then your so called company who lets you work on your own shall have all insurances cancelled.??? not rocket science. i would agree with you on the license & its a piece of paper thats we both have the same idea & i did say most UK sparkies are fantastic. I would never try to put people of coming here but life is suck that you need a license to piss at times & if you intend to work for your self thats another license & insurance. Arthur In Melbourne 16 hours ago, Eltonb said: Hi Arron I can assure you it is not hard to find work in Melbourne sorry no1spark you are way off with the way off with that info unless you can back that up you should not be feeding people with that as that what you wrote could put someone off from coming to Melbourne when it is so wrong thing dont work like what you read on the esv website, how is it impossible to get a restricted license please explain, me and my 3 mates plus the other 4 guys on the gap training must be the 1% in your closed mind The job i found when I had my restricted license I worked with someone for a week then I was in a car on my own on an Agrades wage running jobs because I said to my boss from day 1 I no what im doing you will be getting agrade class of work obviously better than Agrade because i was trained in the uk haha I also said if you want to pay me apprentice wages i can act like an apprentice its up to you, all I had to do when i was getting to grips with regs at the start is ring him when i was not sure to double check i was doing things right, I met guys on the gap training and 3 of us became good friends and they are working for companies with the same role that i had and they are still on a restricted license In my eyes an electrical license is a bit of plastic that gives ESV the right to screw you in the arse if you mess up, because it proves that you have done the exams that "make you understand what is right and wrong" but everyone here dose what they like anyway on site but they think for some reason the are the best trained in the world and have to strongest regs in the world as the get told that as college and i can 100% say to anyone thinking of coming to aus you will get a shock from how they do things out here you may also get treated like an idiot at first but when they see you quality of work the aussies give you respect 1 quick thing for the cost of living when you start living here and your earning the $ stop converting everything to pound you will find that the cost of living is not bad at all. when you in the uk and your converting everything from $ to pound it seems expensive if you want any info Arron PM me i will give you my details and help you where i can Elton b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstott1980 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 A provisional license in NSW or Training Permit in QLD require 'general supervision' only. Not direct man for man supervision, like an apprentice requires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltonb Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 4 hours ago, no1spark said: good 1 Arthur have a good day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthand20 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Came over on a 189 perm visa 2 months ago, living in Sydney, found a job after 2 1/2 weeks on the books got a van/phone job lot, working domestic/commercial, had no domestic experience before, was babbing it at first but once I got stuck in, work over here is a hell of a lot easier than back home in my opinion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthand20 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Probably gonna get my license this year just to have it but I didn't need it to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arronjj Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Finally seeing some positives thank you all gives more re assurance!Sent from my iPhone using PomsinOz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthand20 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I got told by a couple of Irish lads that are sparkles out here that Melbourne is harder than Sydney to get work sparking but I've no proof that's true once you get here just hammer the agencies, if you need any help/contacts in Sydney hit me up ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arronjj Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Thanks Matt will do !!!Sent from my iPhone using PomsinOz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyboi Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Do trade recognition in U.K. Come to Sydney and get a job (easy) transfer trade recognition to Provisional license and do the '3 week full time (intensive) Electrical gap training' . Obtain NSW Electrical license and transfer it to Vic license when u move to Melbourne. This '3 week gap training in Sydney is reasonably new, I was in the first ever class 8 months ago and it's still running as I have a friend who is currently finishing his gap training the same way. The 3 week full time course replaces the 6month 2 evenings a week course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthand20 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I looked at that, would be the best option but I can't afford 3 weeks off work at the minute, once you've done that do you still have to do 12 months before 'a license'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyboi Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Not true, they will give u an online logbook to fill in. You can back date it a year as long as you have a licensed electrician to sign it off for you. this can be done within a week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthand20 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Sweet!! What's the course like? Shite or straightforward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstott1980 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 A provisional license in NSW or Training Permit in QLD require 'general supervision' only. Not direct man for man supervision, like an apprentice requires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstott1980 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I worked as an unlicensed Electrician In Sydney for 34 bucks an hour in 2011/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arronjj Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Even better Matt . It'd be a lot easier to do it in bulk and get it out of the way, wasn't aware of that. May even end up liking it in Sydney!Sent from my iPhone using PomsinOz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colesy Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I want to work as a Trade Assistant in Australia. What qualifications and experience will I need to show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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