cartertucker Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Hi I was just wondering, with quotes like these from some agents, why wouldnt everyone use them? :unsure: Thats not to say that I am going to either...Im just curious to other peoples reasons? Kelly :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackboots Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 we did with ours, 1st contact, but we got the visa, im sure they know from the beginning if its likely that your not going to fit a certain criteria, does that make sense? i know what you mean though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saunders clan Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I agree with Sharon. Agents are unlikely to take you on unless they are 99% sure you will get the visa. And also if you read the small print, if you fail on a medical or police check then that isn't their problem. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's always the impression I've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sam&Si Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Yes I think you guys are right - my understanding is that a registered Agent isn't allowed to take you on as a client unless they can evidence that you fulfill the visa criteria, so basically as long as you haven't lied with the info then you're ok. Think that if you fail the medical though you can't get your money back. So maybe it's the unregistered Agents that offer no visa, no fee and so steer clear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewebweazel Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Yes I think you guys are right - my understanding is that a registered Agent isn't allowed to take you on as a client unless they can evidence that you fulfill the visa criteria, so basically as long as you haven't lied with the info then you're ok. Think that if you fail the medical though you can't get your money back. So maybe it's the unregistered Agents that offer no visa, no fee and so steer clear? Sorry Sam I disagree slightly with you, I believe that a registered agent has to make you fully aware of what your chances are of getting a visa. They can still take you on as a client even if you have no chance if that is you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andy,tina,lukeandgeorgie Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 i agree with all the above,we used thames migration and they have been very good all the way they will give you a consultaion for free if you go with them,(well they did with us) they can tell if you fit the citereia and if something changes along the way,which can and did with us,they gave us an alternative route and were very helpful.i wouldnt of like to of attacked the whole process without them! hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sam&Si Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Sorry Sam I disagree slightly with you, I believe that a registered agent has to make you fully aware of what your chances are of getting a visa. They can still take you on as a client even if you have no chance if that is you wish. I stand corrected Craig!:notworthy: Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Hi Kelly I've yet to hear of a "no visa, no fee" firm actually returning the fees when the whole thing goes wrong due to the fault of the firm. It is a stupid promise to make. If the agent has obtained sufficiently detailed instructions, is fully up to speed with current migration legislation, policy and practice and the Agent is of the professional opinion that an application ought to succeed, there is no reason why it should fail. Therefore why make such a promise? The promise is nothing but a marketing gimmick in my view, and I abhor gimmickry in any professional context. Some agents also take it beyond a mere gimmick: virtually anobody with a pulse is eligible for a Student visa for Oz. Whether they can afford that route has nothing to do with technical eligibility for the visa. A reputable agent will decline to act in the matter if s/he believes that the application would be futile. There is a duty to act in the client's best interests. An application which is known to be futile from the beginning cannot be said to be n the client's best interests if the client genuinely wants to migrate to Oz either temporarily or permanently. Best wishes Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tracynben Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 personally i wouldnt use an agent, ive heard lots of bad stories about them, and they cant guarantee that you will be accepted, all they can do is help get all the revelent paperwork ready so it might not get delayed. I will def be doing mine myself, if you go on the immi.gov.au you can get all the info you need. BUT thats just my personal opinion. tracy xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartertucker Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 Hi Kelly I've yet to hear of a "no visa, no fee" firm actually returning the fees when the whole thing goes wrong due to the fault of the firm. It is a stupid promise to make. If the agent has obtained sufficiently detailed instructions, is fully up to speed with current migration legislation, policy and practice and the Agent is of the professional opinion that an application ought to succeed, there is no reason why it should fail. Therefore why make such a promise? The promise is nothing but a marketing gimmick in my view, and I abhor gimmickry in any professional context. Some agents also take it beyond a mere gimmick: virtually anobody with a pulse is eligible for a Student visa for Oz. Whether they can afford that route has nothing to do with technical eligibility for the visa. A reputable agent will decline to act in the matter if s/he believes that the application would be futile. There is a duty to act in the client's best interests. An application which is known to be futile from the beginning cannot be said to be n the client's best interests if the client genuinely wants to migrate to Oz either temporarily or permanently. Best wishes Gill Thanks Gill, Thats a really great post & really helpfull. :yes: Kelly :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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