private education

[Guest nurse46]

I have heard that the education system is not as good as the british one, so I am thinking about private education.

 

My son attends a catholic high school which is brilliant, and my daughter is attending a catholic junior school which is also brilliant.

 

I understand also there is international schools which do the international diploma is this right.

 

Please advise,

[Quoll]

It all depends on where you are going as to what will be available. Not too many international schools AFAIK (we dont have one) but more and more schools are beginning to do the International Baccalaureate (IB) which is an internationally accepted examination equivalent of A levels. The Catholic system is alive and well in Aus and in the ACT approximately 50% of High School kids go to independent schools and systemic Catholic schools.

 

I am sure you will find a Catholic school pretty much anywhere in Australia as an alternative to the government system. Whether any of them do the IB - I dont know.

[connaust]

As an educator I would suggest any school is fine if, the big IF, parents take an active interest in their childrens' schooling i.e. following their syllabus and curriculum, helping with homework and meeting with teachers regularly....it's not rocket science....

[Mongrel]

It all depends on where you are going as to what will be available. Not too many international schools AFAIK (we dont have one) but more and more schools are beginning to do the International Baccalaureate (IB) which is an internationally accepted examination equivalent of A levels. The Catholic system is alive and well in Aus and in the ACT approximately 50% of High School kids go to independent schools and systemic Catholic schools.

 

I am sure you will find a Catholic school pretty much anywhere in Australia as an alternative to the government system. Whether any of them do the IB - I dont know.

 

The uk govt I believe were looking at an IB to replace the A level system

 

M from K

[Guest tlander56]

I have heard that the education system is not as good as the british one, so I am thinking about private education.

 

My son attends a catholic high school which is brilliant, and my daughter is attending a catholic junior school which is also brilliant.

 

I understand also there is international schools which do the international diploma is this right.

 

Please advise,

 

 

Please don't assume that the private system is any better than the state.....we made that mistake :skeptical:

[Guest WARDStoOZ]

Please don't assume that the private system is any better than the state.....we made that mistake :skeptical:

 

Is the private not that good then??? :eek:

 

Dan :-)

[Dawny]

Please don't assume that the private system is any better than the state.....we made that mistake :skeptical:

 

 

The same can be said for the uk schools, Worked in the school trade for 11 years, and to be honest certain state schools are just as good as private if not better!

[Guest WARDStoOZ]

The same can be said for the uk schools, Worked in the school trade for 11 years, and to be honest certain state schools are just as good as private if not better!

 

I see what you mean Dawn, I go to a state Catholic school and have had a fantastic education... many say it's the fact my school's a faith school though that helps it to do very well... my headteacher's my french teacher and apparently we now get over 900 applications per year for just 180 places... :shocked: so personally, I agree, state schools are often just as good, if not better!

 

Dan xx :-)

[Dawny]

I see what you mean Dawn, I go to a state Catholic school and have had a fantastic education... many say it's the fact my school's a faith school though that helps it to do very well... my headteacher's my french teacher and apparently we now get over 900 applications per year for just 180 places... :shocked: so personally, I agree, state schools are often just as good, if not better!

 

Dan xx :-)

For something as important as education, it annoys me that you have a private school system all together, as all education should be equal wether you can afford to pay or not! Every body should be given the same standard of education!

[Guest WARDStoOZ]

For something as important as education, it annoys me that you have a private school system all together, as all education should be equal wether you can afford to pay or not! Every body should be given the same standard of education!

 

I think you mis-read my post... I have a state education and couldn't afford a private one... if feel the same as you... we should all be entitled to the same standard of education :yes:

[Dawny]

I think you mis-read my post... I have a state education and couldn't afford a private one... if feel the same as you... we should all be entitled to the same standard of education :yes:

 

Dan, i didn't mean you having private education i meant we as in general lol, Sorry wrote it wrong, but i knew what i meant lol x

[Guest WARDStoOZ]

Dan, i didn't mean you having private education i meant we as in general lol, Sorry wrote it wrong, but i knew what i meant lol x

 

lol sorry... me being a bit dim... state education lmao!!! xx

[Dawny]

lol sorry... me being a bit dim... state education lmao!!! xx

 

 

LMASO!!:arghh:

[fish.01]

The biggest variable you will have in state school quality is location and the current principal. Lower socio economic area's on average have worse state schools (so in general the further you go away from the CBD the worse it gets - of course there are exceptions to every rule).

 

Queensland state schools must admit you if you live in the catchment area so if you ask the locals what the best state schools are in your preferred wider geographic area you could then move into the specific catchment area of the school you choose.

[The Ozcans]

Hi fish.01

I've got an exception to that rule!!!(in UK)

We have a state primary near us on the edge of a large council estate. The ed. authority have a secret weapon called Miss. Oakes! Very old school, but under her, the school had one of the best Ofsted reports in UK. They've now moved her to another failing school which is on the up, and the new new principle of her old school is resting on her laurels so to speak!!!

Staff changes can make a huge difference to a school.

Sue x

[fish.01]

Hi fish.01

I've got an exception to that rule!!!(in UK)

We have a state primary near us on the edge of a large council estate. The ed. authority have a secret weapon called Miss. Oakes! Very old school, but under her, the school had one of the best Ofsted reports in UK. They've now moved her to another failing school which is on the up, and the new new principle of her old school is resting on her laurels so to speak!!!

Staff changes can make a huge difference to a school.

Sue x

 

Hi Sue,

 

Yeah I agree....I put location and the current principal as the two major factors as I heard of the same thing here....a very popular state school with a fantastic principal went downhill after he left. I guess it must be like an office where one bad manager can demoralise all the staff under them - and vice versa.

[Guest Emcooper]

I also think its up to the students too! Yes some schools may be 'better' or 'worse' than others but if someone were to pay alot of money for their child to go to a school with a brilliant reputation yet they spent most of their school time not trying, whats the point! The state school I went to didnt have th best reputation, I remember not even wanting to go but I had no problems, I did well and I turned out fine. I definatly agree all education should be the same wether you can afford it or not.

[Dawny]

Schools are only as good as the teachers, and of course a child who want,s to learn, We had some horid teachers at my old school, and those lessons the kids did the worse in,

[Rudi]

Hi Nurse46,

 

I have to admit to being confused by your post. The "education system" is set in each state and in each individual state you follow the set curriculum for that state. So the education system in private and state schools is the same, with students in both the state and private system taking the same exams at the end of their schooling in that state. You will not get a better quality SYSTEM in a private school.

 

What you MIGHT get is smaller class sizes and children from wealthier families. Not always the case, but generally wealth come from a family with good jobs and good jobs = higher educated parents. There are obviously exceptions working in both directions. Generally speaking this does mean better RESULTS in school.

 

The debate about whether the education system in Australia or the UK is better is a whole other argument and unless you are planning on only a temporary move, it should not be part of your considerations, the systems are different, not better or worse.

 

As other people have said, do your research. I absolutely agree with the people who say that a good leader in a school can make a HUGE dufference to a school, whatever area that school is in, or whether it is private or state.

 

I hope you find what you are looking for in a school.

 

Daphne

 

 

I have heard that the education system is not as good as the british one, so I am thinking about private education.

 

My son attends a catholic high school which is brilliant, and my daughter is attending a catholic junior school which is also brilliant.

 

I understand also there is international schools which do the international diploma is this right.

 

Please advise,

[Guest Toorak Trev]

As an educator I would suggest any school is fine if, the big IF, parents take an active interest in their childrens' schooling i.e. following their syllabus and curriculum, helping with homework and meeting with teachers regularly....it's not rocket science....

 

As an educator you should be more aware of children with special needs and therefore retract "any" from your above post.

 

It is not rocket science to see that even with motivated parents working at home and consulting with public teachers the positive impact on a childs development will be limited to the educating environment ie:

The school facilities, school numbers and mixture/backgrounds of other students and their parents.

 

To be blunt children placed with "winners" as their peers are more likely to succeed than placed with "battlers". To think otherwise is pulling wool over ones eyes for other reasons such as jealousy or guilt.