Attention any locksmiths!

[Guest stue116]

Hello all lockies,

As you must know locksmiths are having a nightmare trying to gain there TRA, due to qualifiactions etc

We are trying to get a group of uk locksmiths together (actually thet don't have to be from uk) who would be interested in trying to convince thet TAFE in Melbourne who train locksmiths under AQF in oz to set up a similar way of assessing us, as other companies do carpet fitters and other tradies.

I have sent the Tafe an email explaining our situation and are awaiting a reply.

If and it's a big if they are interested i'm sure it would be quite expensive, as a trainer would have to come over or us there, and lots of organising.

I would be more than willing to sort out as much as I can to help us all.

please let me know if you are interested or of you know locksmiths on others forums who maybe interested.

regards Sam

[Guest Gollywobbler]

Hi Sam

 

You are aware of LouP.

 

Are you also aware of Andy & Kelly? If not, their public profile is here:

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/members/andy-and-kelly.html

 

LouP's is here, to save you looking it up:

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/members/loup.html

 

Cazmat is another locksmith:

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/members/cazmat.html

 

Try British Expats and all the other forums you can find as well, I suggest. I believe that the TAFE in Melbourne have said they would consider the idea if there is enough demand to make it worth their while to get stuck into the idea.

 

Best wishes

 

Gill

[Guest stue116]

thank you Gill, will PM them.

will also post on others forums.

Sam

[Guest stue116]

Hi all, just wanted to let you know that i sent the Tafe in Melbourne at email last week and have not had any reply will send another today to jog there memory.

will keep you all posted if i get a response,

sam.

[cartertucker]

Hi all, just wanted to let you know that i sent the Tafe in Melbourne at email last week and have not had any reply will send another today to jog there memory.

will keep you all posted if i get a response,

sam.

 

Good Luck Sam, We gotta keep our spirits up, mines a double vodka! :twitcy:

 

Kelly :smile:

[Guest stue116]

Hi

I have recieved a reply from the NMIT in melbourne and they are willing to set up a way of assessing individuals.

Firstly they need the money to develop the document, which is something we will have to split between us,once that is done we can be assessed, the lady i am in contact with has set all the costs out to me and has said that it can be assessed in a day if not then you can have daily training until you acheive it.

If you would like me send you the email I recieved please send me a pm or email.

Sam.

[cartertucker]

That sounds positive Sam, I hope you can all sort this out between you & it wont cost you all too much that way.

 

Kelly :smile:

[Guest stue116]

ok guy's have tried to work this out a simply as poss, If the 4 locksmiths i know of on here including my o/h all can manage this together the development of the paperwork will cost £1022. each at the most.

and then about another £850 for the day's assessing and certificate.

Bearing in mind this is in Melbourne so we will have to get there too.:chatterbox:

I could inquire about sending an assesor here, but not sure if that would be possible, because we would need the use of a workshop and maybe others things.

 

I am going to phone TRA (maybe tomorrow) and see if I can get any clue's out of them that this will be nesscesary for when the new MAP comes into place or if we need to do it because MAP is going to be another 6 months etc.

will let you know if they tell me anything.

Sam

[Guest Gollywobbler]

Hi Sam

 

Firstly, congratulations on your STERLING efforts so far. Very, very well done. :notworthy:

Secondly you may wish to contact Alan Collett of Go Matilda, because they may know other locksmiths who would want to join in with you in order to dilute the costs per head:

 

Go Matilda - Your Gateway to Australia - Contact and Feedback

 

Go Matilda - Your Gateway to Australia - Contact and Feedback

 

Thirdly, the Agents all say unanimously that the MAP arrangements will require all migrants to hold formal qualifications in the relevant fields. The commentaries that I have read, written by Agents, all predict that where formal qualifications are not held or are not possible, applicants may well take to opting to do AQF III instead of anything available in their own countries. Please see the sticky thread at the top of this section.

 

If Alan Collett is able to convince the TAFE of this, the TAFE might be willing to reconsider its stance on the costs of developing the document that you describe. They might be willing to bear at least part of the costs themselves. You never know.

 

Best wishes

 

Gill

[Guest stue116]

Thank you Gill,

 

We are with Go Matilda and have been emailing Alan, but will ask him about others locksmiths he may know, thanks.

 

Sam

[Guest Gollywobbler]

Hi Sam

 

Alan Collett is in the UK all this week. If you want a voice chat with him, leave a message on their Southampton number and he will call you.

 

Nah, I'm not his secretary! He has just said this in response to a post on another thread!

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Guest stue116]

Hi Gill and anyone else interested, Just wanted to keep you updated I am now up to 6 locksmiths interested including o/h.

I spoke to Alan while he was in the UK and he gave me some great advice :notworthy:, I contacted 4 other agents 3 of whom have a locksmith interested!!

I'm going to give it a couple of weeks for others to consider it and then contact the NMIT.

will keep you posted :GEEK:

Sam.

[cartertucker]

Thats brilliant news Sam, sounds really positive...

 

You are living proof that 'where theres a will, theres a way' :yes:

 

Your an inspiration to others, the Tra, visa process isnt easy at the best of times, but you sure have been given a tough start, but your not letting that stand in your way...Oh no!

 

You go girl! :notworthy:

 

Kelly :0)

[Guest angiebabe]

Nice one Sam :notworthy:...Keep at it, you'll get there or here i should say :yes:

[Guest kerrysaxon]

Hi Gill

just reading some posts from 2008. MY husband is also a locksmith and having trouble with AQF III. Please advise us to what we can do?. How did stue & sam get on? we are trying to be hopefull but just seem to be going round in circles.

 

regards kerry

[Guest The Pom Queen]

Hi Gill

just reading some posts from 2008. MY husband is also a locksmith and having trouble with AQF III. Please advise us to what we can do?. How did stue & sam get on? we are trying to be hopefull but just seem to be going round in circles.

 

regards kerry

 

Hi Kerry

Gill will hopefully answer your question re the AQF III. I just wanted to say I think Sam and Stue are now back in the UK as their sponsor would not pay the wage increase if I remember correctly.

Kate

[Guest Gollywobbler]

Hi Gill

just reading some posts from 2008. MY husband is also a locksmith and having trouble with AQF III. Please advise us to what we can do?. How did stue & sam get on? we are trying to be hopefull but just seem to be going round in circles.

 

regards kerry

 

 

Hi Kerry

 

Welcome to Poms in Oz.

 

Kate (Moving2Melbourne) is right. A few months ago Sam came onto the forum and said that she, Stue and the children would be returning to the UK at the end of November 2009. What happened was that they went to Warrnambool on a temporary employer sponsored sc 457 visa in about July or so 2009. A couple of months later the employer was told that he would have to pay the new minimum salary of about $45,500 set by the Federal Government in Canberra - which is an expensive part of Australia. According to the Aussie locksmith in Warrnambool (the employer) this $45,000 was far too much for his business to pay and was too much for Locksmiths in regional VIC generally.

 

I don't know whether the pay could have been argued downwards or an immediate RSMS visa sought in order to get round the problem that way. Whatever happened, the couple decided to leave Australia without a fight it would seem.

 

As far as I know it is still not possible for British Locksmiths to do the AQF III either in the UK or in Australia, meaning that an employer sponsored visa is the way forward.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Guest kerrysaxon]

Hi Gill and anyone else interested, Just wanted to keep you updated I am now up to 6 locksmiths interested including o/h.

I spoke to Alan while he was in the UK and he gave me some great advice :notworthy:, I contacted 4 other agents 3 of whom have a locksmith interested!!

I'm going to give it a couple of weeks for others to consider it and then contact the NMIT.

will keep you posted :GEEK:

Sam.

Hi Stu/ Sam, I know iam replying to quite an old message but how did you get on, did you or a few of you do your AQF 3 in Oz etc. I'm a locksmith in the UK amd a member of the ICL (thinking of going on to the MLA) do they have any status regards locksmithing in Oz? You may have even migrated by now, we were told about 18 months ago that if you had 6 years as a trading locksmith that would be enough, at the time I had about 5 years so we left it for a while plus the wife and kids hadn't been there. So we went for 3 weeks over xmas 2009 and all loved everything about the place only to find that now you need this AQF 3 or 900 hrs of training which would cost approx £35000 in UK and no one needs that sort of training its experience that counts to a certain degree.

Any info you could give us would be much appreciated. Cheers Dave & Kerry.

[Guest Mark80]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone managed to get over to Melbourne and receive their AQFIII in locksmithing? If so how did you go about doing it? What experiance did you need and did the TRA accept it? Thanks for any new light you can shine on this.