simmo 21,581 Posted Tuesday at 05:00 3 hours ago, unzippy said: And why might that be? Evil white man obs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unzippy 3,457 Posted Tuesday at 10:15 (edited) 8 hours ago, Parley said: No one has ever said indigenous people are not troubled. I doubt anyone would claim as such. Good, I'm glad you agree. 8 hours ago, Parley said: Asking why doesn't help much either Maybe it doesn't much help you, but absolute horse manure How on earth can you possibly hope to fix something if you don't know why or how it was broken? Edited Tuesday at 10:22 by unzippy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s713 2,019 Posted Wednesday at 20:32 On 20/05/2023 at 11:16, simmo said: Just been reading some more on this "voice" thing. It appears that if successful unelected groups who might be wise, academic, fair.. or in the other hand may be radical activists with vexatious and destructive goals could be blocking laws laid down by elected bodies. Is this accurate? Sounds like the House of Lords 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simmo 21,581 Posted Thursday at 04:55 8 hours ago, s713 said: Sounds like the House of Lords Exactly what I thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unzippy 3,457 Posted Friday at 05:54 https://www.foxsports.com.au/more-sports/voice-to-parliament-sports-combine-to-support-indigenous-voice-nrl-afl-news-latest/news-story/fef12bf68846bea61b5017d4d33c17b4 Rugby league legend Mal Meninga: “I can’t see anything wrong with it — listening to the voice of the First Nations people. Learning from them and learning from their past and taking action with them. “This is not a case of doing this for them or on behalf of them. It’s about taking action with them and I think that’s generally how we operate in sport. You bring your team along with you. You act collectively to achieve success. I can see great benefit in it." Agreed. It's good to listen, that's when you learn. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulya 2,754 Posted Friday at 08:52 2 hours ago, unzippy said: https://www.foxsports.com.au/more-sports/voice-to-parliament-sports-combine-to-support-indigenous-voice-nrl-afl-news-latest/news-story/fef12bf68846bea61b5017d4d33c17b4 Rugby league legend Mal Meninga: “I can’t see anything wrong with it — listening to the voice of the First Nations people. Learning from them and learning from their past and taking action with them. “This is not a case of doing this for them or on behalf of them. It’s about taking action with them and I think that’s generally how we operate in sport. You bring your team along with you. You act collectively to achieve success. I can see great benefit in it." Agreed. It's good to listen, that's when you learn. Local hero is Mal. Stand named after him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simmo 21,581 Posted Friday at 10:30 4 hours ago, unzippy said: https://www.foxsports.com.au/more-sports/voice-to-parliament-sports-combine-to-support-indigenous-voice-nrl-afl-news-latest/news-story/fef12bf68846bea61b5017d4d33c17b4 Rugby league legend Mal Meninga: “I can’t see anything wrong with it — listening to the voice of the First Nations people. Learning from them and learning from their past and taking action with them. “This is not a case of doing this for them or on behalf of them. It’s about taking action with them and I think that’s generally how we operate in sport. You bring your team along with you. You act collectively to achieve success. I can see great benefit in it." Agreed. It's good to listen, that's when you learn. Don't you do that already? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rallyman 3,945 Posted Friday at 22:31 https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/the-voice-will-divide-aboriginal-people-and-divide-our-great-democratic-nation/ewnkw01xm 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unzippy 3,457 Posted 22 hours ago 3 hours ago, Rallyman said: https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/the-voice-will-divide-aboriginal-people-and-divide-our-great-democratic-nation/ewnkw01xm An interesting opinion. Does that mean he is happy with the status quo or he wants something different to what on offer? The opinion piece was quite clear on what he didn’t want, but lacking on what to do next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parley 7,356 Posted 16 hours ago 5 hours ago, unzippy said: An interesting opinion. Does that mean he is happy with the status quo or he wants something different to what on offer? The opinion piece was quite clear on what he didn’t want, but lacking on what to do next. what do you think he wants? 1 Buy a man eat fish. The Day, Teach Man, to lifetime. - Joe Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rallyman 3,945 Posted 12 hours ago 9 hours ago, unzippy said: An interesting opinion. Does that mean he is happy with the status quo or he wants something different to what on offer? The opinion piece was quite clear on what he didn’t want, but lacking on what to do next. I found it informative . clearly he thinks the voice is not the way forward as said in the link there are already many voices for the indigenous community to be heard, they can grasp opportunities or stay stagnant and blame everyone else, the world has moved on considerably since the first fleet arrived, if it was not the English that came it would have been anyone of a number of countries from the northern hemisphere that claimed Australia, while the English have carried out some horrible atrocities, tell me which countries haven’t in years gone by. It’s never been a perfect world and never will be. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
