UFOs, Balloons, Ohio train derailment, China, Russia.

[simmo 21,581]

What on earth is going on.?

Should we be worried?

[Marisawright 10,232]

The US media loves to get hysterical over nothing.   Did you know that the US sent at least 10 spy balloons over China in the last year?   All countries do it.   Of course, because of the media hysteria over the Chinese balloon, the US government is now trying to reassure people by shooting things out of the sky, which last week would have gone completely unnoticed.  Silly.

As for the Ohio train derailment, why is it a surprise that hazardous chemicals are carried by freight train? That's normal, too, and sometimes there will be accidents.  

[simmo 21,581]

1 hour ago, Marisawright said:

The US media loves to get hysterical over nothing.   Did you know that the US sent at least 10 spy balloons over China in the last year?   All countries do it.   Of course, because of the media hysteria over the Chinese balloon, the US government is now trying to reassure people by shooting things out of the sky, which last week would have gone completely unnoticed.  Silly.

As for the Ohio train derailment, why is it a surprise that hazardous chemicals are carried by freight train? That's normal, too, and sometimes there will be accidents.  

So all totally normal?

[Parley 7,356]

2 hours ago, Marisawright said:

The US media loves to get hysterical over nothing.   Did you know that the US sent at least 10 spy balloons over China in the last year?   All countries do it.   Of course, because of the media hysteria over the Chinese balloon, the US government is now trying to reassure people by shooting things out of the sky, which last week would have gone completely unnoticed.  Silly.

As for the Ohio train derailment, why is it a surprise that hazardous chemicals are carried by freight train? That's normal, too, and sometimes there will be accidents.  

Do you really believe that just because China claim so?

US has denied it. Don't be so gullible to believe Chinese propaganda.,

[simmo 21,581]

Apparently, the other 3 objects shot down were not balloons.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2359091-four-flying-objects-shot-down-by-us-jets-what-we-know-so-far/

As for the Ohio chemical train.  Officials say that the air is safe to breath.

https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/east-palestine-train-derailment/safe-for-residents-to-breathe-youngstown-air-quality-deemed-nonhazardous/

Some might think massive ecological disasters are "normal", I beg to differ.

[Marisawright 10,232]

3 hours ago, Parley said:

Do you really believe that just because China claim so?

US has denied it. Don't be so gullible to believe Chinese propaganda.,

Actually it's not that I believe Chinese propaganda, it's that I find it totally unbelievable that the US hasn't been sendng balloons, drones or whatever.  All countries do surveillance of other countries, of one kind or another. 

[Marisawright 10,232]

3 hours ago, simmo said:

 

Some might think massive ecological disasters are "normal", I beg to differ.

Let's put it this way.  Things happen.  The Ohio derailment is not the first accident which released toxic vapours.  Heck, we've had at least two factory fires in Melbourne since I moved here, where a wide area had to be evacuated due to toxic fumes.   The Chinese balloon got noticed, and now the US govt is going overboard to reassure the public by shooting down anything that moves. 

If you're thinking they're all connected in some weird Twilight Zone way, then you're beyond hope.

[Parley 7,356]

42 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

Actually it's not that I believe Chinese propaganda, it's that I find it totally unbelievable that the US hasn't been sendng balloons, drones or whatever.  All countries do surveillance of other countries, of one kind or another. 

It is done from international waters.

Invading another country's airspace is not normally done.

[simmo 21,581]

1 hour ago, Marisawright said:

Let's put it this way.  Things happen.  The Ohio derailment is not the first accident which released toxic vapours.  Heck, we've had at least two factory fires in Melbourne since I moved here, where a wide area had to be evacuated due to toxic fumes.   The Chinese balloon got noticed, and now the US govt is going overboard to reassure the public by shooting down anything that moves. 

If you're thinking they're all connected in some weird Twilight Zone way, then you're beyond hope.

As with most things, you seem to be easily convinced.

[simmo 21,581]

1 hour ago, Parley said:

It is done from international waters.

Invading another country's airspace is not normally done.

Or via satellite 

[unzippy 3,457]

On 14/02/2023 at 17:42, simmo said:

 

As for the Ohio chemical train.  Officials say that the air is safe to breath.

https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/east-palestine-train-derailment/safe-for-residents-to-breathe-youngstown-air-quality-deemed-nonhazardous/

Some might think massive ecological disasters are "normal", I beg to differ.

Be careful @simmo, russkies are up to the usual misinformation.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/russia-tried-to-steer-ohio-train-disaster-debate-using-twitter-musk-tech/6W6VOO2K2NDVLAQFT26K4NBX4I/

[simmo 21,581]

10 minutes ago, unzippy said:

Be careful @simmo, russkies are up to the usual misinformation.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/russia-tried-to-steer-ohio-train-disaster-debate-using-twitter-musk-tech/6W6VOO2K2NDVLAQFT26K4NBX4I/

Bots exist yes.  Nothing new

[Ken 1,567]

On 14/02/2023 at 20:59, Parley said:

It is done from international waters.

Invading another country's airspace is not normally done.

Does the name Gary Powers mean nothing to you?

[simmo 21,581]

1 hour ago, Ken said:

Does the name Gary Powers mean nothing to you?

Shot down.

[Parley 7,356]

6 hours ago, Ken said:

Does the name Gary Powers mean nothing to you?

Hardly relevant in 2023.

[s713 2,019]

I get that there's an opportunity at play here. But let's not de-consider American paranoia, which is and always has been off the scale. They're unhinged, always have been. The fact that we're in bed with them continues to be a worry.

[Parley 7,356]

What is worrying to me is when posters lap up Chinese propaganda as if it is Gospel truth.

 

[Ken 1,567]

On 23/03/2023 at 22:29, Parley said:

Hardly relevant in 2023.

The point is that if they think they can get away with it, any country will routinely invade another country's airspace. The Gary Power's incident didn't even stop the US, they just switched from the U-2 to the much faster SR-71 to avoid being shot down. They only stopped those missions once they were getting equally good intel from satellites.

[Marisawright 10,232]

2 hours ago, Parley said:

What is worrying to me is when posters lap up Chinese propaganda as if it is Gospel truth.

 

What I find even more worrying is when posters lap up crazy theories spread by American megalomaniacs.

[Parley 7,356]

Drinking the chinese Kool-Aid

[unzippy 3,457]

11 hours ago, Parley said:

What is worrying to me is when posters lap up Chinese propaganda as if it is Gospel truth.

 

Got any examples?