benj1980 382 Posted September 4, 2022 I see Australia is increasing it's targets for permanent migrants, rising from 160k to 195k. Is this enough? AITSL assessment complete-09/10/2014 | IELTS L8.5, R8, W8.5, S8.5. -13/12/2014 | EOI submitted 07/01/2015 (65) invite 09/01/2015 | 189 Visa applied - 10/01/2015 | Meds -20/02/2015 | PCC-08/03/2015 | Visa granted! - 20/03/2015. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marisawright 10,054 Posted September 4, 2022 Enough in what sense 1 Scot by birth, emigrated 1985 | Aussie husband granted UK spouse visa, moved to UK May 2015 | Returned to Oz June 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken 1,524 Posted September 5, 2022 20 hours ago, benj1980 said: I see Australia is increasing it's targets for permanent migrants, rising from 160k to 195k. Is this enough? To solve the labour shortages that Australia is currently suffering from? Possibly not enough. To significantly worsen the housing shortage that Australia is currently suffering from? More than enough. There's always a lack of joined up thinking in Australia's approach to problems. Chartered Accountant (England & Wales); Registered Tax Agent & Fellow of The Tax Institute (Australia) www.kbfayers.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon the Hat 1,071 Posted September 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Ken said: To solve the labour shortages that Australia is currently suffering from? Possibly not enough. To significantly worsen the housing shortage that Australia is currently suffering from? More than enough. There's always a lack of joined up thinking in Australia's approach to problems. Even if there were joined up thinking from the Government - say a specific program to bring in construction workers - would the unions be willing to be flexible on qualifications etc? I doubt it as that would reduce their members earnings. PR (100) moved to Perth September 2021 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benj1980 382 Posted September 6, 2022 I wasn't thinking about a housing crisis to be honest. I keep reading there's thousands of jobs in many sectors that can't be filled. I know first hand there's a shortage of teachers which isn't WA specific... AITSL assessment complete-09/10/2014 | IELTS L8.5, R8, W8.5, S8.5. -13/12/2014 | EOI submitted 07/01/2015 (65) invite 09/01/2015 | 189 Visa applied - 10/01/2015 | Meds -20/02/2015 | PCC-08/03/2015 | Visa granted! - 20/03/2015. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JetBlast 485 Posted September 6, 2022 Does anyone know if the quota applies to 887 visas applicants please? I have been told the quota applies when you are granted the 489 and not the 887. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken 1,524 Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, JetBlast said: Does anyone know if the quota applies to 887 visas applicants please? I have been told the quota applies when you are granted the 489 and not the 887. No, this is the permanent migration cap so it includes 887 visas (because they are permanent visas) and excludes the 489 (because they are temporary visas). That doesn't mean there are no caps for the 489 visa - just not this cap. UPDATE: Actually I just noticed that 489 (despite starting with a 4) is described as a provisional visa rather than a temporary visa. That may well change which category they include it under for the purpose of the permanent migration cap. UPDATE2: Yes, provisional visas are included in the Permanent Migration Program. The 489 isn't mentioned but "Relevant visa subclasses include" the 494 and 491. Edited September 6, 2022 by Ken Chartered Accountant (England & Wales); Registered Tax Agent & Fellow of The Tax Institute (Australia) www.kbfayers.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JetBlast 485 Posted September 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Ken said: UPDATE2: Yes, provisional visas are included in the Permanent Migration Program. The 489 isn't mentioned but "Relevant visa subclasses include" the 494 and 491. Probably because the 489 has now finished and replaced with the 491. So was the conclusion the quota was included on the 489 and not the 887>? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken 1,524 Posted September 6, 2022 3 hours ago, JetBlast said: Probably because the 489 has now finished and replaced with the 491. So was the conclusion the quota was included on the 489 and not the 887>? Yes, that's the conclusion 1 Chartered Accountant (England & Wales); Registered Tax Agent & Fellow of The Tax Institute (Australia) www.kbfayers.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marisawright 10,054 Posted September 11, 2022 On 06/09/2022 at 19:17, Ken said: No, this is the permanent migration cap so it includes 887 visas (because they are permanent visas) and excludes the 489 (because they are temporary visas). That doesn't mean there are no caps for the 489 visa - just not this cap. UPDATE: Actually I just noticed that 489 (despite starting with a 4) is described as a provisional visa rather than a temporary visa. That may well change which category they include it under for the purpose of the permanent migration cap. UPDATE2: Yes, provisional visas are included in the Permanent Migration Program. The 489 isn't mentioned but "Relevant visa subclasses include" the 494 and 491. No wonder migration is confusing. So in that case, the 491 and 494 are given the same treatment as a permanent visa even though they're temporary. Whereas during the pandemic, the 491 and 494 visas were classed as temporary and therefore holders were not allowed to enter Australia. They were told that being "provisional" didn't really mean anything in law. It caused untold hardship to a lot of people. Scot by birth, emigrated 1985 | Aussie husband granted UK spouse visa, moved to UK May 2015 | Returned to Oz June 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
