Ausvisitor Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Not an issue just yet, but in the future I know you need to do 730 days in 5 years to get an RRV and other qualifications exist to be able to apply for a visa based on time in country. Do you need to keep a track of this yourself or is there a website you can just stick your visa # into and it come up with ausvisitor you have spent 120 days in Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 AFAIK there's no website where you can look at your dates, but you can request your movement records: https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/entering-and-leaving-australia/request-movement-records 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhand Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 56 minutes ago, Ausvisitor said: Not an issue just yet, but in the future I know you need to do 730 days in 5 years to get an RRV and other qualifications exist to be able to apply for a visa based on time in country. Do you need to keep a track of this yourself or is there a website you can just stick your visa # into and it come up with ausvisitor you have spent 120 days in Australia You need to keep your own records … arrival and departure days both count as ‘in’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Ausvisitor said: Not an issue just yet, but in the future I know you need to do 730 days in 5 years to get an RRV and other qualifications exist to be able to apply for a visa based on time in country. Do you need to keep a track of this yourself or is there a website you can just stick your visa # into and it come up with ausvisitor you have spent 120 days in Australia Have they stopped stamping entry and exit dates in passports? That was always the easy way to keep track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausvisitor Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ken said: Have they stopped stamping entry and exit dates in passports? That was always the easy way to keep track. It's all electronic entry gates now, so no stamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausvisitor Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, paulhand said: You need to keep your own records … arrival and departure days both count as ‘in’. Is there any dispensation for time overseas working for an Aussie organisation, for instance being asked to do a month long secondment in Singapore - is that in Oz or out, as you are actually working for an Australian entity and still being paid and being taxed on that income in Australia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhand Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ausvisitor said: Is there any dispensation for time overseas working for an Aussie organisation, for instance being asked to do a month long secondment in Singapore - is that in Oz or out, as you are actually working for an Australian entity and still being paid and being taxed on that income in Australia? No, that's 'out'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Ausvisitor said: Is there any dispensation for time overseas working for an Aussie organisation, for instance being asked to do a month long secondment in Singapore - is that in Oz or out, as you are actually working for an Australian entity and still being paid and being taxed on that income in Australia? Do bear in mind, though, that you need the 2 years out of 5 to get an RRV automatically. If you fail the residency requirement, you can still get a RRV under the "strong ties of benefit to Australia" rule. If you're being sent here and there by an Australian company but your principal residence is actually still in Australia and your usual job is in Australia, I don't think you'd have any trouble proving "strong ties". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausvisitor Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 7 hours ago, Marisawright said: Do bear in mind, though, that you need the 2 years out of 5 to get an RRV automatically. If you fail the residency requirement, you can still get a RRV under the "strong ties of benefit to Australia" rule. If you're being sent here and there by an Australian company but your principal residence is actually still in Australia and your usual job is in Australia, I don't think you'd have any trouble proving "strong ties". That's true, I was just thinking through the implications for this "first 5 years" with 2 years and 2 months of the 5 years out of country due to COVID travel restrictions, that just means I need to keep an eye on how much overseas work I do in the next couple of years so that I hit the 2 years before the current RRV expires. I guess them the next issue is keeping each year to an average of 3 months out of country so that citizenship is a possibility... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 28 minutes ago, Ausvisitor said: That's true, I was just thinking through the implications for this "first 5 years" with 2 years and 2 months of the 5 years out of country due to COVID travel restrictions, that just means I need to keep an eye on how much overseas work I do in the next couple of years so that I hit the 2 years before the current RRV expires. No, that's my point. You'll have an established home in Australia (it doesn't matter if it's owned or rented), and I assume your partner has a job? Those count as "strong ties of benefit to Australia", so you won't need to fulfil the 2 years out of 5 requirement. If you have a job (or a job offer) that's based in Australia at the time you apply, that will make an even more cast-iron case. It will take longer to get the RRV approved, and you may only get a year RRV the first time, but it shouldn't be a problem. Qualifying for citizenship is a tougher ask, as you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I don’t know if you have a partner or family here but if they meet the requirements for a 5 year RRV and get one you might get one too? Does it work like that Paul? It also doesn’t stop them becoming citizens as soon as they qualify, giving you even stronger ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhand Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 8 hours ago, rammygirl said: I don’t know if you have a partner or family here but if they meet the requirements for a 5 year RRV and get one you might get one too? Does it work like that Paul? No it doesn’t … the best you can get this way is a year … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausvisitor Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 1 hour ago, paulhand said: No it doesn’t … the best you can get this way is a year … I guess other than the need to wait 2-3 months for the RRV to be granted and the need to apply again in a year it doesn't really make too much difference. Just a bit more bureaucracy than if I can make the two years before the initial five run out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Plus the cost. Sooner you can get citizenship the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausvisitor Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, rammygirl said: Plus the cost. Sooner you can get citizenship the better. It's only been 2 months, I've got a bit of a wait ahead of me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 16 hours ago, rammygirl said: I don’t know if you have a partner or family here but if they meet the requirements for a 5 year RRV and get one you might get one too? Does it work like that Paul? It also doesn’t stop them becoming citizens as soon as they qualify, giving you even stronger ties. My wife didn't meet the 2 year requirement but I did. I got my 5 year RRV, attached a copy to her application and they issued her 1 year RRV about an hour later. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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