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[Drumbeat]

25 minutes ago, Dan Not Dale said:

Yep that’s why Perth has come up in discussion a bit.

But from the thread it’s hard to know if Perth is great, boring or the Columbia of the Antipodes.

Well I've lived here over 30 years and definitely wouldn't describe it as the Columbia of the Antipodes 

[Paul1Perth]

37 minutes ago, Dan Not Dale said:

Yep that’s why Perth has come up in discussion a bit.

But from the thread it’s hard to know if Perth is great, boring or the Columbia of the Antipodes.

If you like partaking in sport , good weather, plenty of beaches to choose from, so they're very rarely busy, affordable housing, nice clean modern city then you'd like Perth.

You could pick the wrong suburb though and think it's crap. Like I've said before if you're somewhere like Ellenbrook it's a good 40 mins by car to a beach, much hotter in summer, much colder in winter than beachside suburbs, has a shopping centre, really good golf course but has a sort of sterile look with not much to do. I could see the kids being a bit bored and troublesome in some suburbs.

My two just buzzed off down the beach, specially before they were too young to drink alcohol. There was always someone they knew messing about on paddleboards or surf skis.

[rammygirl]

I do think that people don’t seem to get out much.  You really need to spend time in different areas and suburbs to see what is out there.  There is something for everyone,

[Marisawright]

2 hours ago, Dan Not Dale said:

Yep that’s why Perth has come up in discussion a bit.

But from the thread it’s hard to know if Perth is great, boring or the Columbia of the Antipodes.

@Dan Not Dale, I know Paul will disagree with me but I think you'd be daft to choose Perth.  Nothing wrong with the city, but if you're trying to find a compromise - i.e. a place in Australia where you'll feel happier, but she'll still feel close to family - then Perth is a bad choice.   Flights from Perth to Melbourne are far, far more expensive than flights from anywhere else in Australia, plus they're two or three times as long. Yes, the flights are cheap compared to flying all the way from the UK but it's surprising how quickly you forget, and suddenly the family is complaining she's a long way away or vice versa.  

Once you're flying with a kid or kids, having to face a 3.5 hour flight instead of a 1.5 hour flight suddenly becomes a major issue. Especially once they get old enough that you have to pay for a seat for them, too.

How much easier to pop back and forth from Adelaide, Hobart, Newcastle, Brisbane - all short flights and plenty cheap fares available.  AND easy and cheap to research those places too, for the same reason.

I wonder if that's exactly why you're considering Perth, though. It's far enough away that you can romanticise it a bit.

Edited June 30, 2021 by Marisawright

[HappyHeart]

3 hours ago, Blue Flu said:

Obviously can happen anywhere. I was only pointing out  to another poster Australia is not the meek and mild place some may at first glance assume. Lots of aggro here as well. One difference though, at least I find, is the 'tribal culture ' for want of another term does not exist to any real extent in Australia compared to England. 

The only thing that disturbs my peace in the suburbs is the idiots doing burnouts. We have a particularly moronic individual living about 50 m away who thinks it's great fun to hoon up and down our close. He's feral as they come though so confrontation isn't wise. Police had his wife for drink driving recently. Luckily our close neighbours are all fairly benign. 

[Wanderer Returns]

3 hours ago, Dan Not Dale said:

Yep that’s why Perth has come up in discussion a bit.

But from the thread it’s hard to know if Perth is great, boring or the Columbia of the Antipodes.

Visit, and find out (when all this has blown over, of course).

[Blue Flu]

21 hours ago, Paul1Perth said:

My favourite live band ever. Scooters were never my scene though, preferred motorbikes but went straight to a mini cooper as soon as I could.

Right. A Greeser then. Perhaps more a Gary Glitter fan and relate more to Leader of the Pack type? But Mini Coopers are cool. Will try and catch the final gig down Freo of Mod Squad . 

[Blue Flu]

3 hours ago, Paul1Perth said:

If you like partaking in sport , good weather, plenty of beaches to choose from, so they're very rarely busy, affordable housing, nice clean modern city then you'd like Perth.

You could pick the wrong suburb though and think it's crap. Like I've said before if you're somewhere like Ellenbrook it's a good 40 mins by car to a beach, much hotter in summer, much colder in winter than beachside suburbs, has a shopping centre, really good golf course but has a sort of sterile look with not much to do. I could see the kids being a bit bored and troublesome in some suburbs.

My two just buzzed off down the beach, specially before they were too young to drink alcohol. There was always someone they knew messing about on paddleboards or surf skis.

Plenty of iffy burbs. Choose well. Obviously Western suburbs blue ribbon in the main, but out of the price range of many. I've been looking at houses to relocate over the past year and it is hard connect all desirables. Perth is not a city for all tastes clearly. 

[Blue Flu]

16 minutes ago, Wanderer Returns said:

Visit, and find out (when all this has blown over, of course).

Just bring a lot of colouring books to provide after dark entertainment. ..........

[Paul1Perth]

1 hour ago, Marisawright said:

@Dan Not Dale, I know Paul will disagree with me but I think you'd be daft to choose Perth.  Nothing wrong with the city, but if you're trying to find a compromise - i.e. a place in Australia where you'll feel happier, but she'll still feel close to family - then Perth is a bad choice.   Flights from Perth to Melbourne are far, far more expensive than flights from anywhere else in Australia, plus they're two or three times as long. Yes, the flights are cheap compared to flying all the way from the UK but it's surprising how quickly you forget, and suddenly the family is complaining she's a long way away or vice versa.  

Once you're flying with a kid or kids, having to face a 3.5 hour flight instead of a 1.5 hour flight suddenly becomes a major issue. Especially once they get old enough that you have to pay for a seat for them, too.

How much easier to pop back and forth from Adelaide, Hobart, Newcastle, Brisbane - all short flights and plenty cheap fares available.  AND easy and cheap to research those places too, for the same reason.

I wonder if that's exactly why you're considering Perth, though. It's far enough away that you can romanticise it a bit.

Not going to be close to family moving anywhere in Aus. When we lived in the UK we were only 40 miles or so from my parents and saw them about 3 times a year. 

We didn't go back to the UK for 13 years after we first arrived. 

You get used to not seeing family and once you've got a good circle of friends and things to do we didn't miss them. We were supposed to be going for a nieces wedding last year and then to Majorca with my Sister, nieces and their kids. Obviously didn't happen and we still have the money due back from the flights. 

Ah well, one day.

[Blue Flu]

50 minutes ago, HappyHeart said:

The only thing that disturbs my peace in the suburbs is the idiots doing burnouts. We have a particularly moronic individual living about 50 m away who thinks it's great fun to hoon up and down our close. He's feral as they come though so confrontation isn't wise. Police had his wife for drink driving recently. Luckily our close neighbours are all fairly benign. 

Doing hoon burnouts is part of the suburban/small town  Australian ritual towards manhood. It equates the Parisian love of sitting in cafes discussing Freud or the latest government  policy to suppress the proletariat.    

[Blue Flu]

4 hours ago, Dan Not Dale said:

Yep that’s why Perth has come up in discussion a bit.

But from the thread it’s hard to know if Perth is great, boring or the Columbia of the Antipodes.

Well been to Colombia and a great country to visit If not entirely safe. Only thing I noticed of any real similarity to Australia was the colourful parrots that inhabit both countries.

[HappyHeart]

5 minutes ago, Blue Flu said:

Doing hoon burnouts is part of the suburban/small town  Australian ritual towards manhood. It equates the Parisian love of sitting in cafes discussing Freud or the latest government  policy to suppress the proletariat.    

This dude is easily mid 50s to early 60s....

He clearly never quite ‘got there’ 

[Dan Not Dale]

1 hour ago, Marisawright said:

@Dan Not Dale, I know Paul will disagree with me but I think you'd be daft to choose Perth.  Nothing wrong with the city, but if you're trying to find a compromise - i.e. a place in Australia where you'll feel happier, but she'll still feel close to family - then Perth is a bad choice.   Flights from Perth to Melbourne are far, far more expensive than flights from anywhere else in Australia, plus they're two or three times as long. Yes, the flights are cheap compared to flying all the way from the UK but it's surprising how quickly you forget, and suddenly the family is complaining she's a long way away or vice versa.  

Once you're flying with a kid or kids, having to face a 3.5 hour flight instead of a 1.5 hour flight suddenly becomes a major issue. Especially once they get old enough that you have to pay for a seat for them, too.

How much easier to pop back and forth from Adelaide, Hobart, Newcastle, Brisbane - all short flights and plenty cheap fares available.  AND easy and cheap to research those places too, for the same reason.

I wonder if that's exactly why you're considering Perth, though. It's far enough away that you can romanticise it a bit.

Sydney is realistically too expensive, so that’s out. Brisbane probably too hot too often from what I hear. 
Adelaide, centre of Adelaide looked smaller than most UK towns, just with a big oval stadium by the river? I know of no one who lives there so have never heard much about it.

NT, I think id last a week.

Perth - dads mate settled there, they love it, been on visits, seems fine. My mum and dad would far rather come visit there than Melbourne also. That about the summary of why that’s what I’m thinking of. Also loads of brits from what I hear. 

We touched on towns before, and you’re right, I should look in to them more. I think jobs (lack of) is my worry there. 

yep don’t know if have romanticised Perth or not?  

[Dan Not Dale]

1 hour ago, HappyHeart said:

The only thing that disturbs my peace in the suburbs is the idiots doing burnouts. We have a particularly moronic individual living about 50 m away who thinks it's great fun to hoon up and down our close. He's feral as they come though so confrontation isn't wise. Police had his wife for drink driving recently. Luckily our close neighbours are all fairly benign. 

They are everywhere where I am. 

[Blue Flu]

1 minute ago, HappyHeart said:

This dude is easily mid 50s to early 60s....

He clearly never quite ‘got there’ 

Well you get old Hippies, he's obviously a suburban subversive who refuses to 'get old'. Clearly showing that the 'system' has never 'broken' him, in the sense of being untamed. Still doing at sixty odd, what he was at seventeen. One way to never 'get old' even if the body becomes ravaged by time. Perhaps deep down inspiration of sorts being the underlying sentiment on closer examination?  

[Dan Not Dale]

51 minutes ago, Wanderer Returns said:

Visit, and find out (when all this has blown over, of course).

That’s the plan 

[Blue Flu]

4 minutes ago, Dan Not Dale said:

They are everywhere where I am. 

It must be don't venture out into true suburbia enough. I only mentioned to someone a few months back how less hooning appeared to be, compared to my youth. Where exactly are you?

Edited June 30, 2021 by Blue Flu

[Marisawright]

22 minutes ago, Paul1Perth said:

Not going to be close to family moving anywhere in Aus. When we lived in the UK we were only 40 miles or so from my parents and saw them about 3 times a year. 

We didn't go back to the UK for 13 years after we first arrived. 

You get used to not seeing family and once you've got a good circle of friends and things to do we didn't miss them. We were supposed to be going for a nieces wedding last year and then to Majorca with my Sister, nieces and their kids. Obviously didn't happen and we still have the money due back from the flights. 

Ah well, one day.

Some people get used to missing family. Not everyone does. Why risk it when Adelaide, Brisbane etc have just as much to offer as Perth and are much easier to travel to/from?

[Wanderer Returns]

11 minutes ago, HappyHeart said:

This dude is easily mid 50s to early 60s....

He clearly never quite ‘got there’ 

You're never too old then? I might just nip down to K-Mart for a baseball cap with a generic logo (warn backwards of course), and matching singlet and thongs. Our neighbourhood could do with being dragged down a peg or two.

[Dan Not Dale]

38 minutes ago, Blue Flu said:

Plenty of iffy burbs. Choose well. Obviously Western suburbs blue ribbon in the main, but out of the price range of many. I've been looking at houses to relocate over the past year and it is hard connect all desirables. Perth is not a city for all tastes clearly. 

Any idea what the ones we see advertising to build in are like?

Baldivis, Parmelia, Canning Vale?

[Marisawright]

5 minutes ago, Dan Not Dale said:

Any idea what the ones we see advertising to build in are like?

Baldivis, Parmelia, Canning Vale?

What are new suburbs with lots of building blocks like in Melbourne? They’re the same in Perth

[Dan Not Dale]

5 minutes ago, Blue Flu said:

It must be don't venture out into true suburbia enough. I only mentioned to someone a few months back how less hooning appeared to be, compared to my youth. Where exactly are you?

Cranbourne South. Estate is itself is outstanding. Still under construction. It has 10k of decent walking paths, lake to walk around. Families come from surrounds every weekend to bring kids to the parks. Surrounds however are pretty questionable. Let’s just say I don’t want my kids (I don’t yet have  ) going to school around here. 

We thought better this than a million dollars debt to be in the middle ring burbs.

[Blue Flu]

1 minute ago, Dan Not Dale said:

Any idea what the ones we see advertising to build in are like?

Baldivis, Parmelia, Canning Vale?

My partner was on a home visit in Canning Valle the other day and commented on some good looking builds there. I've no idea. The first two would not rate with me from research more than actual experience. I guess a very personal thing and I am hyper aware of possible problems to a far greater extent than when purchased present house. It can be differing from road to road, not just suburb. 0But I can tell you there is quite a cost around moving with stamp duty and various other expenses that all add up to the realization that a lot of research and work needs to go into any purchase. Even then you can't always get it right. The  street was fine years back. Only to become what may term a sanctuary for certain illegal activity.  

[Dan Not Dale]

1 minute ago, Marisawright said:

What are new suburbs with lots of building blocks like in Melbourne? They’re the same in Perth

Likely, but they could be 5 mins from nice spots and 45 mins from work as opposed to Melbourne’s 1 hour 20. Maybe their full of hoon types too, maybe not?