Ping Pongers

[HappyHeart]

1 hour ago, Blue Flu said:

Much the same if looked at is more as Poms gone feral after 200 plus years away from the Mother Land. 

They're all poms or Europeans somewhere down the line!!! 

[HappyHeart]

24 minutes ago, Lavers said:

Eshay would be the australian equivalent of an English chav

No it wouldn't lol. 

[Marisawright]

3 hours ago, Blue Flu said:

It may be that Tasmanian fog that clouds ones vision. But allow me to enlighten. A Chav is purely a term invented by a right wing  tabloid to porn scorn on the working class. It obviously manifested into broader meanings but generally denigrating the working class . A Bogan on the other hand can be a fairly typical Aussie bloke , can be rather well off indeed and live in an expensive suburb, earning good wedge, with all the toys and trappings a English Chav couldn't begin to imagine. More likely probably to have at least been to Bali and not necessary with the bling and more basic cloth sense. Hope that helps a little.....

Nothing like my understanding of a bogan. 

[HappyHeart]

2 hours ago, Bulya said:

Preferable to soap dodging 

What would you call their feet if not devoid of soap action? There's at least a years worth of grime in some of those cracks. No...I maintain  Aussies are far filthier than Poms imo. 

[Blue Flu]

48 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

Nothing like my understanding of a bogan. 

 You say nothing like your interpretation. Please don't keep it to yourself your understanding. 

[Bulya]

24 minutes ago, HappyHeart said:

What would you call their feet if not devoid of soap action? There's at least a years worth of grime in some of those cracks. No...I maintain  Aussies are far filthier than Poms imo. 

Laughable.  Get on the tube in summer, just diabolical 

[Blue Flu]

25 minutes ago, HappyHeart said:

What would you call their feet if not devoid of soap action? There's at least a years worth of grime in some of those cracks. No...I maintain  Aussies are far filthier than Poms imo. 

Nay. I used to walk bare foot to primary school . Put shoes on before going to class. I could almost walk possibly over hot coals. Tough feet. Could kick a footy in bare feet a considerable distance. Still showered though. Walked bare footed when went to England at twelve. Within a month think only wore shoes. Sussex kids just not brought up right. 

[Blue Flu]

5 hours ago, Bulya said:

If you read the 1,000 plus comments From Brits on a well known British paper article about showering you’d think differently.  Points they stood out were the large number in Britain that shower without soap/shampoo.  But the one that really comes to mind was the British businesswoman who travels extensively to the U.S and Australia and couldn’t understand why everybody showers daily.  She thought a bath every 3 days was sufficient… 

But Brit's are a weird mob. So many Au Pairs used to complain about shower limitations imposed on them by their host family. It seems in and out top and tail in and out and save water. Few would be aware the need to ration water in England , a country not entirely devoid of rain. I expect they impose the same restrictions on water usage on themselves.  

[Bulya]

1 minute ago, Blue Flu said:

But Brit's are a weird mob. So many Au Pairs used to complain about shower limitations imposed on them by their host family. It seems in and out top and tail in and out and save water. Few would be aware the need to ration water in England , a country not entirely devoid of rain. I expect they impose the same restrictions on water usage on themselves.  

Majority of comments said showering/bathing daily was ridiculous, but it was the high number not using soap/shampoo that was the big surprise.  I’ll probably have three showers a day in summer, they’d think that was enough for a week.  I remember a poster here way back living in Nth Qld and proud of the fact he didn’t shower daily…

[Dusty Plains]

2 hours ago, HappyHeart said:

What would you call their feet if not devoid of soap action? There's at least a years worth of grime in some of those cracks. No...I maintain  Aussies are far filthier than Poms imo. 

In what way?

[HappyHeart]

27 minutes ago, Dusty Plains said:

In what way?

I'm kidding!!

[Blue Flu]

13 hours ago, Bulya said:

Majority of comments said showering/bathing daily was ridiculous, but it was the high number not using soap/shampoo that was the big surprise.  I’ll probably have three showers a day in summer, they’d think that was enough for a week.  I remember a poster here way back living in Nth Qld and proud of the fact he didn’t shower daily…

Obviously it is the weather differences that encouraged Australian excessive showering. (as seen by some) Besides it's far more pleasant in warmer weather to shower, not forgetting in earlier times most English had baths. (not exactly enticing in mid winter) I can't imagine living in North Queensland, which I have, without a few showers a day. Perhaps they jumped in the pool to cool down, (many houses/flats have one) and didn't see the necessity to shower? No idea.  

[Bulya]

10 minutes ago, Blue Flu said:

Obviously it is the weather differences that encouraged Australian excessive showering. (as seen by some) Besides it's far more pleasant in warmer weather to shower, not forgetting in earlier times most English had baths. (not exactly enticing in mid winter) I can't imagine living in North Queensland, which I have, without a few showers a day. Perhaps they jumped in the pool to cool down, (many houses/flats have one) and didn't see the necessity to shower? No idea.  

Last year, a poll for tissue manufacturer SCA found that 41 per cent of British men and 33 per cent of women don’t shower every day, with 12 per cent of people only having a proper wash once or twice a week. (These figures place the UK behind Australia, Mexico and France in the personal hygiene stakes.) Around the same time, research by Mintel found that more than half of British teenagers don’t wash every day - with many opting for a quick spray of deodorant to mask any stink.

Beggars belief…

[Blue Flu]

8 minutes ago, Bulya said:

Last year, a poll for tissue manufacturer SCA found that 41 per cent of British men and 33 per cent of women don’t shower every day, with 12 per cent of people only having a proper wash once or twice a week. (These figures place the UK behind Australia, Mexico and France in the personal hygiene stakes.) Around the same time, research by Mintel found that more than half of British teenagers don’t wash every day - with many opting for a quick spray of deodorant to mask any stink.

Beggars belief…

It does if taken literary. One must proceed with a degree of caution with surveys though. No idea about this one, but from someone that worked for a survey company in England, in that role travelled across a lot of England conducting survey's, there was a few 'tricks' in the game that would have skewered results. But the general crux is probably right. Odd. I thought the French invented perfume or deodorant in times past to act in such a purpose. Obviously Britain's time in The EU had some pay off. Imagine the situation without deodorant? Doesn't bare thinking about. 

[tea4too]

14 hours ago, Blue Flu said:

It does if taken literary. One must proceed with a degree of caution with surveys though. No idea about this one, but from someone that worked for a survey company in England, in that role travelled across a lot of England conducting survey's, there was a few 'tricks' in the game that would have skewered results. But the general crux is probably right. Odd. I thought the French invented perfume or deodorant in times past to act in such a purpose. Obviously Britain's time in The EU had some pay off. Imagine the situation without deodorant? Doesn't bare thinking about. 

I was interested, so checked out the context of the poll and found that in general terms a daily shower is not considered essential for good health and hygiene. It seems Dermatologists claim many skin ailments are aggravated by the habit, green campaigners question the negative impact on the environment, hairdressers warn too much washing strips the hair of natural oils, and a Professor of Virology is on record as saying that a daily shower could actually be bad for us as it strips away beneficial bugs that the body uses to to ward off infections. I guess it's all about balance, like most things in life. T x

[Maussie]

'Ping pongers' - the thread is aptly named!

[Bulya]

4 hours ago, tea4too said:

I was interested, so checked out the context of the poll and found that in general terms a daily shower is not considered essential for good health and hygiene. It seems Dermatologists claim many skin ailments are aggravated by the habit, green campaigners question the negative impact on the environment, hairdressers warn too much washing strips the hair of natural oils, and a Professor of Virology is on record as saying that a daily shower could actually be bad for us as it strips away beneficial bugs that the body uses to to ward off infections. I guess it's all about balance, like most things in life. T x

Thanks for proving for my point. 

[Marisawright]

3 hours ago, Bulya said:

Thanks for proving for my point. 

She is right, though.    Don't get me wrong, I've been showering daily for years myself, but there's no denying that it's not good for your skin.  Aussies are often amazed at my very soft, unwrinkled skin, and I'm sure that I have my Scottish childhood to thank for that, a "top and tail" daily and a bath only once a week.   

It's the soap that does it, though, not the water.

My husband has rosacea and acne, especially on his back.  I've been telling him for years that scrubbing his skin will only make it worse, but of course he never listens to me. Last year he saw a Michael Moseley program that said, turn down the heat on your shower, don't scrub, and use less soap.  The soap is only there to break the surface tension of the water so the water can clean you, so you only need a little.  Too much dries the skin and removes your protective mantle.

He now shampoos his hair and uses the suds from that to soap the rest of himself, then rinses thoroughly in warm, not hot, water.  The improvement in his skin has been nothing short of dramatic.  

Edited July 3, 2021 by Marisawright

[rammygirl]

2 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

She is right, though.    Don't get me wrong, I've been showering daily for years myself, but there's no denying that it's not good for your skin.   It's the soap that does it, though, not the water.

My husband has rosacea and acne, especially on his back.  I've been telling him for years that scrubbing his skin will only make it worse, but of course he never listens to me. Last year he saw a Michael Moseley program that said, turn down the heat on your shower, don't scrub, and use less soap.  The soap is only there to break the surface tension of the water so the water can clean you, so you only need a little.  Too much dries the skin and removes your protective mantle.

He now shampoos his hair and uses the suds from that to soap the rest of himself, then rinses thoroughly in warm, not hot, water.  The improvement in his skin has been nothing short of dramatic.  

Also look for SLS free products. It is a ubiquitous cheap foaming agent that can irritate. The alternative is a coconut based ingredient. We now use an SLS free toothpaste as well as hubby has oral lichen planus, it has made a big difference.

[Blue Flu]

8 hours ago, tea4too said:

I was interested, so checked out the context of the poll and found that in general terms a daily shower is not considered essential for good health and hygiene. It seems Dermatologists claim many skin ailments are aggravated by the habit, green campaigners question the negative impact on the environment, hairdressers warn too much washing strips the hair of natural oils, and a Professor of Virology is on record as saying that a daily shower could actually be bad for us as it strips away beneficial bugs that the body uses to to ward off infections. I guess it's all about balance, like most things in life. T x

Indeed. I did consider a few of the points raised, but  thanks for confirming that with such detail. Over zealous use of shampoo and soaps are certainly deferential towards natural body oils. Does that make the alleged English weekly showering , England 1 versus Australia 0 for extending play without valid reason?

[Bulya]

The comments are ‘enlightening’

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/nov/27/one-in-four-britons-dont-shower-every-day-the-rest-arent-doing-it-right

[newjez]

On 02/07/2021 at 01:58, Blue Flu said:

It does if taken literary. One must proceed with a degree of caution with surveys though. No idea about this one, but from someone that worked for a survey company in England, in that role travelled across a lot of England conducting survey's, there was a few 'tricks' in the game that would have skewered results. But the general crux is probably right. Odd. I thought the French invented perfume or deodorant in times past to act in such a purpose. Obviously Britain's time in The EU had some pay off. Imagine the situation without deodorant? Doesn't bare thinking about. 

I used to shower twice a day in Australia. I shower once a day in the UK, but you could go for a day without showering in a UK winter with no problems.

I have a teenage son who forgets to shower. My sense of smell has been damaged by sinus infections, but sometimes even I can smell him. My wife thinks he is disgusting. Must be a hormone thing, because it tends to be our tall children who stink.

I never wash my feet in the UK. They just get wet in the shower. In Australia, wearing thongs, my feet tended to go black, so I made a point of washing them.

[Ken]

On 01/07/2021 at 20:32, Blue Flu said:

But Brit's are a weird mob. So many Au Pairs used to complain about shower limitations imposed on them by their host family. It seems in and out top and tail in and out and save water. Few would be aware the need to ration water in England , a country not entirely devoid of rain. I expect they impose the same restrictions on water usage on themselves.  

Two weeks of warm weather in England and they declare a drought. The UK has a lot of hours of rainfall but not many mms. London gets an average of 584mm of rainfall annually whereas Brisbane gets 1200mm. Sydney 1175mm, Hobart 670mm and Canberra 629mm. Of course not all Australian cities have high rainfall as there's Perth 588mm, Melbourne 531mm and Adelaide 517mm but there's always Darwin 1,727mm to raise the average!

[newjez]

3 hours ago, Ken said:

Two weeks of warm weather in England and they declare a drought. The UK has a lot of hours of rainfall but not many mms. London gets an average of 584mm of rainfall annually whereas Brisbane gets 1200mm. Sydney 1175mm, Hobart 670mm and Canberra 629mm. Of course not all Australian cities have high rainfall as there's Perth 588mm, Melbourne 531mm and Adelaide 517mm but there's always Darwin 1,727mm to raise the average!

The UK weather has changed alot even in the little time that I have been here, which is about twenty five years.

We used to get alot of that drizzle. You know, the sort of wet air, where you are not even sure it's raining, but everything gets wet.

Nowadays, it's a bloody Monsoon. Seriously, I've seen the rain come down so hard recently that the drains can't cope. It's often warm too when it's raining like this. It's like living in the tropics. Actually, to be honest, it's a lot like Australian rain 

Whether this is temporary or a real change I do know. But change it is.

[HappyHeart]

17 hours ago, newjez said:

I used to shower twice a day in Australia. I shower once a day in the UK, but you could go for a day without showering in a UK winter with no problems.

I have a teenage son who forgets to shower. My sense of smell has been damaged by sinus infections, but sometimes even I can smell him. My wife thinks he is disgusting. Must be a hormone thing, because it tends to be our tall children who stink.

I never wash my feet in the UK. They just get wet in the shower. In Australia, wearing thongs, my feet tended to go black, so I made a point of washing them.

Isn't it just nice to feel fresh? I shower every day wherever I live. Much easier to have an essential freshen up in the shower. You don't need to over to it with the soap. I couldn't feel comfortable without a daily shower. Last time we went camping and the shower was packed up the morning we left, I couldn't wait till we got home so boiled the kettle for an all over body wash. My son and husband on the other hand can go days....