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My employer representative person(HR manager) mentioned in both, nomination and visa applications (186DE), was trying to make some queries and based on the feedback also some complaints to DOHA, but in both cases she was refused because applications were submitted by the migration agent. DOHA agent say that only migration agent is eligible to have a contact.
In the same time global contact center says that queries from the sponsor should be accepted but at the same time saying that they have no direct contact with the global feedback unit; therefore, cannot do anything about it. Kind of a loop you cannot break :(
The agent got his money for lodging our applications and considering his job is done. "You just need to wait"
But the problem here is that the day when DOHA published new processing estimated time our application was above 90% threshold with no updates from DOHA.

First of all the question is if this is a normal DOHA`s behavior? If not, what can we do about?
Should we complete form 956 for the sponsor(employer) as well?
Will DOHA accept two authorized contact persons(agent hired by the employer + sponsor itself)?

And just thinking out loud: Due to Covid restrictions DOHA is not proceeding with a lot of visa applications - student visas, temporary work visas, visitors, etc. as such applicants will not be able to cross the border. The load should be much less than let`s say in 2019. Why is everything so messy there?!


Thank you.

 


Occupation: Computer Network and System Engineer
Stream: 186DE

Country - NL
Number of applicants: 3
Visa and Nomination applied:  October 28th 2020
IMMI Status: Received

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9 hours ago, Nafanya said:

My employer representative person(HR manager) mentioned in both, nomination and visa applications (186DE), was trying to make some queries and based on the feedback also some complaints to DOHA, but in both cases she was refused because applications were submitted by the migration agent. DOHA agent say that only migration agent is eligible to have a contact.
In the same time global contact center says that queries from the sponsor should be accepted but at the same time saying that they have no direct contact with the global feedback unit; therefore, cannot do anything about it. Kind of a loop you cannot break 😞

DOHA will only communicate with one authorised representative only.

9 hours ago, Nafanya said:

The agent got his money for lodging our applications and considering his job is done. "You just need to wait"

There is not much they can do. DOHA specifically state in writing that they will not respond to requests for processing updates or requests for priority processing.

9 hours ago, Nafanya said:

First of all the question is if this is a normal DOHA`s behavior?

Yes, very typical.

9 hours ago, Nafanya said:

Should we complete form 956 for the sponsor(employer) as well?

Yes, but they will replace your Agent as the authorised representative and your Agent will no longer be contacted by DOHA.

 


Raul T Senise

Registered Migration Agent

MARN 0636699

www.ozimmigration.com

"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur."

 

 

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Thank you @Raul Senise, it is more clear now, my initial assumption was that 956 may allow several authorized representatives :)

16 hours ago, Raul Senise said:

There is not much they can do. DOHA specifically state in writing that they will not respond to requests for processing updates or requests for priority processing.

"Check status of your visa or citizenship application - if your application is within the standard processing time, we can’t give you further information even if you call"
Again, I have no experience with DOHA at all, but "technically" by using this statement people who have already passed the 90% threshold should be eligible to request processing updates.

In our case at the end of April for a couple of days we were above the 90% threshold, but they have used an opportunity that sponsor is not mentioned as an authorized person and refused to provide any information. And then DOHA shifted the 90% threshold from 6m to 11m...


Occupation: Computer Network and System Engineer
Stream: 186DE

Country - NL
Number of applicants: 3
Visa and Nomination applied:  October 28th 2020
IMMI Status: Received

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On 08/05/2021 at 00:18, Nafanya said:

Thank you @Raul Senise, it is more clear now, my initial assumption was that 956 may allow several authorized representatives 🙂

"Check status of your visa or citizenship application - if your application is within the standard processing time, we can’t give you further information even if you call"
Again, I have no experience with DOHA at all, but "technically" by using this statement people who have already passed the 90% threshold should be eligible to request processing updates.

In our case at the end of April for a couple of days we were above the 90% threshold, but they have used an opportunity that sponsor is not mentioned as an authorized person and refused to provide any information. And then DOHA shifted the 90% threshold from 6m to 11m...

If you ring you will speak to someone in a call center who is not even employed by DOHA. They will tell you that published processing ties are indicative only.

If you email, you will receive a very long auto response which among other things states

"We are currently processing all employer sponsored applications in accordance with the Acting Minister’s announcement of 2 September 2020" and "Please note, application status enquiries and priority processing requests will NOT receive a response".


Raul T Senise

Registered Migration Agent

MARN 0636699

www.ozimmigration.com

"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur."

 

 

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What a super business :) They take money and then nobody is responsible for anything, no ETAs, they even use COVID as a reason to make it longer when in fact they are not proceeding temp. visas and load should be much less than always.
What a mess!

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Occupation: Computer Network and System Engineer
Stream: 186DE

Country - NL
Number of applicants: 3
Visa and Nomination applied:  October 28th 2020
IMMI Status: Received

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On 12/05/2021 at 18:56, Nafanya said:

What a super business 🙂 They take money and then nobody is responsible for anything, no ETAs, they even use COVID as a reason to make it longer when in fact they are not proceeding temp. visas and load should be much less than always.
What a mess!

Who cares. You are entering their country through skilled migration pathway, they don't have to satisfy you all the time.

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On 31/05/2021 at 10:33, hawkeye10 said:

Who cares. You are entering their country through skilled migration pathway, they don't have to satisfy you all the time.

Well, you are definitely mixing up satisfaction and some very basic rules and order. When we are speaking about advanced economies some reasonable rules and responsibilities should be always in place, regardless who is entering and how. Here you have almost no rules, definitely no ETAs, next month they easily can double or triple processing times without any consequences. The only rule is - "One day, maybe in couple month or in couple years DOHA will approve or reject your visa application."

You think that such behavior is normal? Then I'm really sorry for you...


Occupation: Computer Network and System Engineer
Stream: 186DE

Country - NL
Number of applicants: 3
Visa and Nomination applied:  October 28th 2020
IMMI Status: Received

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6 hours ago, Nafanya said:

Well, you are definitely mixing up satisfaction and some very basic rules and order. When we are speaking about advanced economies some reasonable rules and responsibilities should be always in place, regardless who is entering and how. Here you have almost no rules, definitely no ETAs, next month they easily can double or triple processing times without any consequences. The only rule is - "One day, maybe in couple month or in couple years DOHA will approve or reject your visa application."

You think that such behavior is normal? Then I'm really sorry for you...

These skilled visas doesn't have the "Queue dates" like Parents visa. So there's no order in processing applications (just priority based on subclasses). That's it dude. 

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7 hours ago, hawkeye10 said:

These skilled visas doesn't have the "Queue dates" like Parents visa. So there's no order in processing applications (just priority based on subclasses). That's it dude. 

You sounds like a DOHA employee 🤣 Seriously, you are trying to explain the mess which cannot be explained.
Maybe you can make an example of the visa with strictly defined ETAs then?


Occupation: Computer Network and System Engineer
Stream: 186DE

Country - NL
Number of applicants: 3
Visa and Nomination applied:  October 28th 2020
IMMI Status: Received

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12 hours ago, Nafanya said:

You sounds like a DOHA employee 🤣 Seriously, you are trying to explain the mess which cannot be explained.
Maybe you can make an example of the visa with strictly defined ETAs then?

Their game their rules. Keep whining while waiting for the grant.

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On 05/06/2021 at 05:35, hawkeye10 said:

Their game their rules. Keep whining while waiting for the grant.

Good luck with spreading your slavish mentality across the forum....


Occupation: Computer Network and System Engineer
Stream: 186DE

Country - NL
Number of applicants: 3
Visa and Nomination applied:  October 28th 2020
IMMI Status: Received

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30 minutes ago, Nafanya said:

Good luck with spreading your slavish mentality across the forum....

They are just telling you how it works. Just because it's not what you want to hear doesn't mean you can be rude.

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On 05/06/2021 at 05:35, hawkeye10 said:

Their game their rules. Keep whining while waiting for the grant.

 

6 minutes ago, JetBlast said:

They are just telling you how it works. Just because it's not what you want to hear doesn't mean you can be rude.

So "Keep whining" is not rude then?


Occupation: Computer Network and System Engineer
Stream: 186DE

Country - NL
Number of applicants: 3
Visa and Nomination applied:  October 28th 2020
IMMI Status: Received

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