HG1987 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 hi all, I have been granted a permanent skilled visa a few weeks back, in which my partner was a secondary applicant. We have been struggling for some time, and are considering ending the relationship. If this finally happens, do I have to notify the Dep of Home Affairs? I see that the form in their website (Your relationship has ended (homeaffairs.gov.au)) does not include our case (skilled permanent visa already granted). Also I realise that the timing may look funny, with the relationship ending shortly after being granted a permanent visa. Is it possible that the DHA will want to verify the relationship was legitimate? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 If it's a 189 or a 190, then although one of you was a secondary applicant, when it's awarded you each get an individual, totally independent visa that continues even if you separate. So no, you don't need to notify anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 The timing might look odd especially if your partner (the secondary applicant) subsequently emigrates and you don't, but the process is that the DHA verifies the relationship before the visa is issued not afterwards. Inevitably some relationships will break down (in some cases it's the stress of emigrating that breaks them) and the DHA will not be phased by it. As you've already discovered (from the lack of a space on the form) you don't need to notify where a skilled permanent visa has already been granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhand Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, Ken said: you don't need to notify where a skilled permanent visa has already been granted. Assuming that the OP is in Australia, yes, but if they are not and have not yet made a first entry on the visa, then the obligation to notify still exists until that first entry is made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, paulhand said: Assuming that the OP is in Australia, yes, but if they are not and have not yet made a first entry on the visa, then the obligation to notify still exists until that first entry is made. Does that mean the Department could withdraw the visa if they break up before activating the visa? @HG1987, Paul is an agent, so take his advice seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhand Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Marisawright said: Does that mean the Department could withdraw the visa if they break up before activating the visa? Yes ... the requirement to notify lasts until first arrival and if the circumstances for grant no longer exist (eg the person is no longer the spouse/partner of the primary applicant) then the visa can be cancelled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicentJ Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) That's my understanding too Edited April 23, 2021 by VicentJ Oops, wrong thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG1987 Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 Thanks Paul, Ken and Marisa, that's very useful We are both currently in Australia, and had both been living here for years when we applied, so the visa is activated (and it shows as such in Vevo) and should be no requirement to follow up with the DHA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhand Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 10 hours ago, HG1987 said: Thanks Paul, Ken and Marisa, that's very useful We are both currently in Australia, and had both been living here for years when we applied, so the visa is activated (and it shows as such in Vevo) and should be no requirement to follow up with the DHA. Just to clarify for others ... VEVO doesn’t show whether a visa has been ‘activated’ ... it shows whether the holder is onshore or offshore at the point the check is made. Clearly by definition, if you are onshore and the visa is in effect then you have made a first entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, paulhand said: Just to clarify for others ... VEVO doesn’t show whether a visa has been ‘activated’ ... it shows whether the holder is onshore or offshore at the point the check is made. Clearly by definition, if you are onshore and the visa is in effect then you have made a first entry. So if the person is offshore you'd have no way of telling by looking in VEVO whether a first entry has been made or not? That seems a bit of a drawback - although I suppose if you need to do a VEVO check (e.g. to see if you can employ someone) they are bound to be onshore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG1987 Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 On 24/04/2021 at 16:58, paulhand said: Just to clarify for others ... VEVO doesn’t show whether a visa has been ‘activated’ ... it shows whether the holder is onshore or offshore at the point the check is made. Clearly by definition, if you are onshore and the visa is in effect then you have made a first entry. That's correct, it just shows as 'In Effect' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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