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Hi all,

I was sponsored for 190 by Tasmania and I moved here in April 2019. My family and I loved it and we were very happy. But unfortunately, some 8 months ago I lost my job due to covid and hasn't been able to find work in my field of work. I have tried to survive without job for 8 months but it is becoming increasingly difficult and moving interstate seems like the only options. I am now planning to move to mainland but I was wondering if this will cause any troubles in the future e.g. citizenship application and resident return visas etc since I will be moving before completing two years commitment ? Some people have said that there is no condition attached to the visa to spend two whole years in the nominating state but I still want to be sure.

Any help is appreciated.

 

Regards

 

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3 hours ago, Kaleem said:

Hi all,

I was sponsored for 190 by Tasmania and I moved here in April 2019. My family and I loved it and we were very happy. But unfortunately, some 8 months ago I lost my job due to covid and hasn't been able to find work in my field of work. I have tried to survive without job for 8 months but it is becoming increasingly difficult and moving interstate seems like the only options. I am now planning to move to mainland but I was wondering if this will cause any troubles in the future e.g. citizenship application and resident return visas etc since I will be moving before completing two years commitment ? Some people have said that there is no condition attached to the visa to spend two whole years in the nominating state but I still want to be sure.

Any help is appreciated.

 

Regards

 

If you moved to TAS in April 2019 then you are only a month away from 2 years anyway, I'd imagine by the time you sorted an out-of-state job you'd be at two years anyway

Or am I missing something?

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5 hours ago, Ausvisitor said:

If you moved to TAS in April 2019 then you are only a month away from 2 years anyway, I'd imagine by the time you sorted an out-of-state job you'd be at two years anyway

Or am I missing something?

I am actually all sorted to move next week. So it will be a month short of 2 years cap.

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11 hours ago, Kaleem said:

Some people have said that there is no condition attached to the visa to spend two whole years in the nominating state

Surely then the via should be called 'skilled independent' rather than 'state sponsored?

Why don't you defer your move for 1 month? I would imagine this would be the safest play, rather than risk having a visa cancellation.


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This is what I found on Tasmania immigration website. 

 

Can I move to another state?

As a nominee you agreed to make all reasonable efforts to work and live in Tasmania, but ultimately the decision to move interstate is yours. We do not provide waiver or release letters and cannot enter into discussions about your request to move interstate. The Tasmanian Government is not permitted to provide migration advice or an indication of your future visa or Australian Citizenship pathways. Please contact a migration agent or Department of Home Affairs if you require further clarification in relation to your visa obligations.

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3 hours ago, DukeNinja said:

Surely then the via should be called 'skilled independent' rather than 'state sponsored?

Why don't you defer your move for 1 month? I would imagine this would be the safest play, rather than risk having a visa cancellation.

because I have work offer

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1 hour ago, Kaleem said:

because I have work offer

Cancelled visa = no work offer anymore


IELTS : 13/08/16: W8 S8 L9 R9. F2w ID Check/Rcvd: 15/08/16, 23/08/16 HCPC/SoR CoGS sent: 23/08/16. Skills Ax sent/Rcvd/granted: 30/08/16, 12/09/16, 10/10/16. AHPRA sent/AIP : 05/09/16, 28/12/16. EoI/invited: 20/1/17, 01/02/17. 189 submitted: 06/02/17, Caseworker: 23/02/17. Medicals: 31/03/17. Grant: 12/04/17. Child 101 submitted: 09/06/17. Granted: 06/07/17. Landed: 01/09/17.

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Sorry things didn't work out for you here @Kaleem.

Very best wishes to you and your family with the move to that big island north of Tasmania. 😀

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6 hours ago, Toots said:

Sorry things didn't work out for you here @Kaleem.

Very best wishes to you and your family with the move to that big island north of Tasmania. 😀

Thanks Toots. It’s really a huge setback for my family and me. We loved this place and made some really good friends. I’m hopeful that if I ever get a work offer from Tassie in future we all would be very happy to move back to Devonport 

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Apparently it's a 'moral obligation' to stay in your nominated state. There is nothing legally binding you to stay in the state of tasmania or any other state, that is my understanding, which I was informed by my immigration agent. 

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59 minutes ago, Domo said:

Apparently it's a 'moral obligation' to stay in your nominated state. There is nothing legally binding you to stay in the state of tasmania or any other state, that is my understanding, which I was informed by my immigration agent. 

I talked to the department of home affairs yesterday and they said refer to your visa conditions on VEVO. On further probing they said that 190 doesn’t have any condition binding the visa holder to the nominating state. It is upto the individual to make the call. But the state nominates the candidate so he can stay in the state. 
 

I also emailed the state growth department of Tasmania and they said they don’t issue release letter and wished me luck for the move. 

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22 minutes ago, Kaleem said:

I talked to the department of home affairs yesterday and they said refer to your visa conditions on VEVO. On further probing they said that 190 doesn’t have any condition binding the visa holder to the nominating state. It is upto the individual to make the call. But the state nominates the candidate so he can stay in the state. 
 

I also emailed the state growth department of Tasmania and they said they don’t issue release letter and wished me luck for the move. 

That further verifies my statement, my immigration agencies statement, and now the departments statement. 

Best of luck to you and your family, mate!

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2 hours ago, Domo said:

Apparently it's a 'moral obligation' to stay in your nominated state. There is nothing legally binding you to stay in the state of tasmania or any other state, that is my understanding, which I was informed by my immigration agent. 

This is true. Sadly, the reason it's so hard to get a 190 visa now is  because so many people flouted their moral obligations in the past.   The states got fed up of people promising to live and work in the state, and then buggering off.  Hence the drastic cut in the number of 190 visas being offered and the move to the 489 and now the 491 instead.    A case of the dishonest few spoiling it for everyone else.


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1 hour ago, Marisawright said:

This is true. Sadly, the reason it's so hard to get a 190 visa now is  because so many people flouted their moral obligations in the past.   The states got fed up of people promising to live and work in the state, and then buggering off.  Hence the drastic cut in the number of 190 visas being offered and the move to the 489 and now the 491 instead.    A case of the dishonest few spoiling it for everyone else.

I'm sorry, which occupation did you fall under when you applied for your permanent visa? Or were you born an australian citizen?

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1 hour ago, Marisawright said:

 

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13 minutes ago, Domo said:

I'm sorry, which occupation did you fall under when you applied for your permanent visa? Or are you an australian citizen?

I'm a citizen these days but I migrated over 30 years ago.

Let me be clear, I have no beef with the OP, or anyone else who arrives on a 190 visa then does their best to make a life in the state they've promised to live in.   But there have been so many people who have simply lied, and never had any intention of living in that state.  They probably thought it was no big deal, but the result HAS been a big deal, for the hundreds of people who now have to put up with all the disadvantages of the 491 instead.   And if people go on abusing the 190, the states will only become even more reluctant to offer them.

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Just now, Marisawright said:

I'm a citizen these days but I migrated over 30 years ago.

Let me be clear, I have no beef with the OP, or anyone else who arrives on a 190 visa then does their best to make a life in the state they've promised to live in.   But there have been so many people who have simply lied, and never had any intention of living in that state.  They probably thought it was no big deal, but the result HAS been a big deal, for the hundreds of people who now have to put up with all the disadvantages of the 491 instead.

Please don't deflect the question, which occupation did you apply under and which state was it for? Please inform us on how you became a naturalized Australian citizen.

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I would do what you think is right.  Personally I would think being 2 months short due to lack of employment opportunities is morally ok.  If you were looking to move interstate before even setting in the state, or 6 months in, then that would be a totally different matter.

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1 hour ago, Domo said:

Please don't deflect the question, which occupation did you apply under and which state was it for? Please inform us on how you became a naturalized Australian citizen.

What business is it of yours?   My migration experience was over 30 years ago when it was all very different, and therefore not relevant to your experience.  In fact, I don't even recall there being a choice of visas we could get - we just filled in the forms ourselves, which were fairly simple, and that was that. Getting citizenship was also easier, with a waiting time of 2 years.

I joined these forums to do research when we were planning to go in the opposite direction.  There used to be a special section of these forums devoted to people returning to the UK, which I found very helpful.   It didn't work out but I have stayed because it's a sociable place and I am sometimes able to offer help (in both directions).  In the process, I've learned a great deal about the migration process, which I find fascinating.

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I have tidied this thread up and removed some personal comments.

Can we please try and stay on track and respond to the OP's post without going off in a different direction.

Thanks

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On 25/02/2021 at 00:10, Kaleem said:

Hi all,

I was sponsored for 190 by Tasmania and I moved here in April 2019. My family and I loved it and we were very happy. But unfortunately, some 8 months ago I lost my job due to covid and hasn't been able to find work in my field of work. I have tried to survive without job for 8 months but it is becoming increasingly difficult and moving interstate seems like the only options. I am now planning to move to mainland but I was wondering if this will cause any troubles in the future e.g. citizenship application and resident return visas etc since I will be moving before completing two years commitment ? Some people have said that there is no condition attached to the visa to spend two whole years in the nominating state but I still want to be sure.

Any help is appreciated.

 

Regards

 

Hi Kaleem

 I cannot see an issue at all with you making the move, as im sure your now aware it is just a moral obligation to stay in the State that sponsored and you are able to move if you cannot find work, so after 8 months of trying i dont think anyone at all would blame you for accepting a job offer in another State.

 Lots of luck with the move and good luck in your new job

  Cal x

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If you don't go after what you want, you'll never have it. If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you don't step forward, you're always in the same place...

If you get a chance,take it, If it changes your life,let it. Nobody said it would be easy they just said it would be worth it...

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22 hours ago, calNgary said:

Hi Kaleem

 I cannot see an issue at all with you making the move, as im sure your now aware it is just a moral obligation to stay in the State that sponsored and you are able to move if you cannot find work, so after 8 months of trying i dont think anyone at all would blame you for accepting a job offer in another State.

 Lots of luck with the move and good luck in your new job

  Cal x

Thanks Cal

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