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BrummieInOz

UK plumber wanting to move on, 189??

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59 minutes ago, Joe/Rose said:

Oh, you only have an NVQ 2? Thats not sufficient, NVQ L3 is the minimum for a licensed trade I thought?

 

48 minutes ago, Lavers said:

It would be NVQ level 3 to pass your skill assessment, NVQ level 2 comes really early in your training (or at least it did for me as a Metal Fabricator/Boilermaker)

No I got my NVQ level 3 but someone told me I'm classed as qualified once I got my level 2.. take it, it isn't true

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@BrummieInOz I can’t help with any of your questions, sorry, but maybe a proper consult with a mara agent would be the best thing to get a realistic plan in place or if you just have to bin the idea. At least you’ll know for sure then. @paulhand or @Alan Collett are just 2 of the experienced agents on here who would be able to give you an appraisal of your chances.

Best of luck with it.

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3 hours ago, BrummieInOz said:

 

No I got my NVQ level 3 but someone told me I'm classed as qualified once I got my level 2.. take it, it isn't true

I wouldn't have thought so bud, as NVQ level 2 are fairly easy to get but I could be wrong.

If you've got your NVQ level 3 then that would be qualified.

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7 hours ago, BrummieInOz said:

Yeah I know. I wouldn't start any process until all this coronavirus situation was over. As I'd need a first aid certificate aswell. 

It's just that's the only thing on my mind right now, my future. And if to go back to my old job or try and go back to oz 😔

😟 That's abit worrying aswell, but I'd contact some centre or visa advisor before hand anyway like suggested.

I got my NVQ 2, 2 years ago and I believe I'm qualified from then but it's still only 2 years and even if it was 3 years I'd only have 60 points.

Theres no chance I'd pass the english. My only option would be to go back over when safe to do so and try my hardest to find a possible employer that is open to sponsoring me (long shot but seen jobs advertising willing to sponsor right candidate). 

I've got long family members but they are my moms cousins husbands relatives 🤣🤣🤣 dont think they would count for family sponsorship.

Oh well, I'll keep looking at my other options before I contact and go back to my old company.. ie maybe a short college course to gain some extra points... or different visas available.

 

Again appreciate everyones input in this thread 👏🏻👍🏻Helped me out alot

An amplifier is not allowed to sponsor you unless you meet all the requirements for the visa including the necessary experience. Same problem 


Scot by birth, emigrated 1985 | Aussie husband applied UK spouse visa Jan 2015, granted March 2015, moved to UK May 2015 | Returned to Oz June 2016

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Best thing you can do is work as a plumber for the next 'X amount' of years until you max your work exp, and make sure you go to AUS on on WHV and also work as a plumber for however many years your WHV permits. Other than that a provisional visa is the only other option. Be prepared to dedicate the next +5 years to this dream, it has been a long processes for all of us. Work experience alone usually spans a decade for most. Fortunately for you I think plumbers will remain on the list for a long time, as most applicants rarely engage in occupations related to 'manual labour', therefore a shortage in those fields may continue for years to come. Be wise and play the game correctly!

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On 14/04/2020 at 16:03, Domo said:

Best thing you can do is work as a plumber for the next 'X amount' of years until you max your work exp, and make sure you go to AUS on on WHV and also work as a plumber for however many years your WHV permits. Other than that a provisional visa is the only other option. Be prepared to dedicate the next +5 years to this dream, it has been a long processes for all of us. Work experience alone usually spans a decade for most. Fortunately for you I think plumbers will remain on the list for a long time, as most applicants rarely engage in occupations related to 'manual labour', therefore a shortage in those fields may continue for years to come. Be wise and play the game correctly!

I’m confused, go to work on a WHV and work as a plumber?

Thats Surely not the right advice? Rather, you want to remain in the U.K. & work as an NVQ3 qualified plumber, to gain off-shore working experience, plumbing I’m sure, is a licensed trade, therefore you can’t just rock up in Australia & work as a plumber, an electrician  etc.

Work experience; to count towards your visa points score means, you need to work as a qualified tradesman, that means post apprenticeship, to build up experience counting years.

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5 hours ago, Joe/Rose said:

I’m confused, go to work on a WHV and work as a plumber?

Thats Surely not the right advice? Rather, you want to remain in the U.K. & work as an NVQ3 qualified plumber, to gain off-shore working experience

He does say, get the required work experience first, before you go for the WHV.   You are right, the OP wouldn't be able to work as a fully qualified plumber on a WHV, but he would be able to work for a plumber - and it would get him over to Australia instantly, instead of having to apply and twiddle his thumbs for a year or more while his application for a permanent visa goes through.    He could even apply for the permanent visa and take the WHV while he's waiting.

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On 17/04/2020 at 03:49, Marisawright said:

He does say, get the required work experience first, before you go for the WHV.   You are right, the OP wouldn't be able to work as a fully qualified plumber on a WHV, but he would be able to work for a plumber - and it would get him over to Australia instantly, instead of having to apply and twiddle his thumbs for a year or more while his application for a permanent visa goes through.    He could even apply for the permanent visa and take the WHV while he's waiting.

I'm not sure if I will go back to work in Australia on a WHV as mine expires in Jan and by the looks of things they won't be opening the borders anytime soon.

I'd happily work as a plumbing trade assistant as this would be better for me to learn. However I don't think I'll get sponsored and I see it pointless going to work for a few months just to come back, as I dont need the money exactly (That's not my main purpose of working over there).

I can't get a 2nd year WHV either as I'm too old... So I'm thinking of doing an english exam to get my proficient english 10 points I would need to get a total of 65, then get a job as a trade assistant if it got approved.

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1 hour ago, BrummieInOz said:

I'd happily work as a plumbing trade assistant as this would be better for me to learn. However I don't think I'll get sponsored...

... So I'm thinking of doing an english exam to get my proficient english 10 points I would need to get a total of 65, then get a job as a trade assistant if it got approved.

You're right, you definitely wouldn't get sponsored because you don't have enough work experience to be eligible for an employer-sponsored visa. 

Your only option is to stay in the UK until you've got enough experience to meet the criteria. No point in applying for any kind of visa until you've got that under your belt.

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On 08/04/2020 at 10:28, BrummieInOz said:

Yeah I know. I wouldn't start any process until all this coronavirus situation was over. As I'd need a first aid certificate aswell. 

It's just that's the only thing on my mind right now, my future. And if to go back to my old job or try and go back to oz 😔

😟 That's abit worrying aswell, but I'd contact some centre or visa advisor before hand anyway like suggested.

I got my NVQ 2, 2 years ago and I believe I'm qualified from then but it's still only 2 years and even if it was 3 years I'd only have 60 points.

Theres no chance I'd pass the english. My only option would be to go back over when safe to do so and try my hardest to find a possible employer that is open to sponsoring me (long shot but seen jobs advertising willing to sponsor right candidate). 

I've got long family members but they are my moms cousins husbands relatives 🤣🤣🤣 dont think they would count for family sponsorship.

Oh well, I'll keep looking at my other options before I contact and go back to my old company.. ie maybe a short college course to gain some extra points... or different visas available.

 

Again appreciate everyones input in this thread 👏🏻👍🏻Helped me out alot

I'm not sure which passports you hold, but Australia allows both Canadians and Irish citizens the right to a WHV up until 35, I'm Canadian and have successfully applied for a WHV at 32, so I speak from experience. The reason I suggest a WHV is that you may use it as a vehicle as with any other temporary visas to gain 1 year or more of AUSTRALIAN work experience, where the rest you can collect at home in your parent country for the next 'X' number of years. Australian work experience is absolutely crucial at your current juncture, and doing any and all work related to 'plumbing'. On Iscahs website, I also read that immigration recently changed experience to include years studied/trained in a particular field (as long as their synonymous with one another, such as your NVQ), so your training as a plumber may also be included on your offshore work experience. Again, don't quote me, read the recent Immigration changes the DOH has made and Iscah has published and run it by a qualified MARA agent.

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On 16/04/2020 at 16:58, Joe/Rose said:

I’m confused, go to work on a WHV and work as a plumber?

Thats Surely not the right advice? Rather, you want to remain in the U.K. & work as an NVQ3 qualified plumber, to gain off-shore working experience, plumbing I’m sure, is a licensed trade, therefore you can’t just rock up in Australia & work as a plumber, an electrician  etc.

Work experience; to count towards your visa points score means, you need to work as a qualified tradesman, that means post apprenticeship, to build up experience counting years.

Sure you can! Any tradesman should be able to work under any licensed electrician, plumbing, refrigeration, etc company which is willing to hire you, pay you properly, etc in such roles as an apprentice or a laborer. I'm a carpenter by trade and have already been invited to NSW for a 190, I was contemplating on working there as a tradey if I need be, fortunately I didn't have to go through the trouble. Mind you, domestic Australian work experience is of greater value than offshore experience on a year/point basis. Just 1 year of qualified Aus work experience will grant you 5 points, which is a pretty big deal!

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16 minutes ago, Domo said:

I'm not sure which passports you hold, but Australia allows both Canadians and Irish citizens the right to a WHV up until 35, I'm Canadian and have successfully applied for a WHV at 32, so I speak from experience. 

Yes, but he's already used his and you can't get a second one.

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10 minutes ago, Domo said:

Sure you can! Any tradesman should be able to work under any licensed electrician, plumbing, refrigeration, etc company which is willing to hire you, pay you properly, etc in such roles as an apprentice or a laborer. I'm a carpenter by trade and have already been invited to NSW for a 190, I was contemplating on working there as a tradey if I need be, fortunately I didn't have to go through the trouble. Mind you, domestic Australian work experience is of greater value than offshore experience on a year/point basis. Just 1 year of qualified Aus work experience will grant you 5 points, which is a pretty big deal!

...but like I said, it's all irrelevant to the OP because he can't get a second WHV anyway, and he can't get any other kind of visa because he hasn't got enough experience.

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"The stranger who comes home does not make himself at home but makes home itself strange." -- Rainer Maria Rilke

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4 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

Yes, but he's already used his and you can't get a second one.

understood, given his age and country of origin. Sounds like offshore work experience is the answer!

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