KangaKit Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) Now that I've received my invitation I'm keen to get cracking as my ilets expires this month. I have got in touch with one of the migration agents on this forum but wondered if there is anything I can do in the meantime? Shall I ask the consultants receptionist for a report regarding medical issues? Edited March 5, 2020 by KangaKit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Only if you've got a complex medical issue - otherwise, dont bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangaKit Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Quoll said: Only if you've got a complex medical issue - otherwise, dont bother. My daughter has rheumatoid arthritis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 5 hours ago, KangaKit said: My daughter has rheumatoid arthritis Yes I would get a specialist report. When we booked the medicals we were advised to also take any medical reports if applicable and that they should address: the condition, treatment/investigations, outcome of treatment and prognosis (if the condition was ongoing, what restrictions if any it placed upon us now and projected over the next few years). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangaKit Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 Great thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, KangaKit said: My daughter has rheumatoid arthritis That's a complex medical issue. Also, if she's in school and may require disability support (that depends on how much her disability impacts get functioning in school) also take any physio or other other therapeutic assessment reports. Ah, do I assume you don't actually have a visa yet? If not you've got the medicals hurdle to get over in which case any assessment of prognosis and possible required interventions will be required because the medical assessment will need to work out the potential cost of the condition to the Australian tax payer. Edited March 5, 2020 by Quoll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 If you haven't hired a migration agent yet, go to George Lombard. He is the guru where medical cases are concerned. As Quoll mentions, if your daughter has a chronic, lifelong illness, there's a good chance your visa will be rejected on medical grounds. You need to find that out, urgently, before you spend any more money and time on the process. They don't just look at her medications now, they look at the likely progression of her illness over several years, and what that will cost the Australian taxpayer. If it goes over a certain threshold, you can't get a visa, end of story. George has years of experience and based on that, will be able to give you a good idea of your prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangaKit Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 hours ago, Marisawright said: If you haven't hired a migration agent yet, go to George Lombard. He is the guru where medical cases are concerned. As Quoll mentions, if your daughter has a chronic, lifelong illness, there's a good chance your visa will be rejected on medical grounds. You need to find that out, urgently, before you spend any more money and time on the process. They don't just look at her medications now, they look at the likely progression of her illness over several years, and what that will cost the Australian taxpayer. If it goes over a certain threshold, you can't get a visa, end of story. George has years of experience and based on that, will be able to give you a good idea of your prospects. Yep I know, in contact with an agent. We've had a chat and I think we are just going to have to take the risk..we won't know if we don't try. The annoying thing is is another 2 months she won't be on any medication. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangaKit Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 7 hours ago, Quoll said: That's a complex medical issue. Also, if she's in school and may require disability support (that depends on how much her disability impacts get functioning in school) also take any physio or other other therapeutic assessment reports. Ah, do I assume you don't actually have a visa yet? If not you've got the medicals hurdle to get over in which case any assessment of prognosis and possible required interventions will be required because the medical assessment will need to work out the potential cost of the condition to the Australian tax payer. No disability issues, she is an athelete..only had the first flare up associated with hormones. She has no physio and all previous MRIs have been NAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elayna Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Just my two cents worth but husband has RA we took on an agent because it is not the end of the story - apparently given their medical issues there are number of paths. One yes they might reject you but on appeal, if you can prove you can support the payment of further ongoing health issues or needs of the person then there is a chance for an appeal and a health waiver to be had. Again more the agents that know this process. Also if its is going to affect an Australian that you do not go ie one of you is Australian then they will also consider this as well. It as always is a case by case basis so no need to completely give up hope and not try. If you talk to your agent about the waiver situation they will know what the chances are. I have done lots of research on this and also had advice from three agents about this information before I took one on to help with our situation. Cheers and Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangaKit Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, Elayna said: Just my two cents worth but husband has RA we took on an agent because it is not the end of the story - apparently given their medical issues there are number of paths. One yes they might reject you but on appeal, if you can prove you can support the payment of further ongoing health issues or needs of the person then there is a chance for an appeal and a health waiver to be had. Again more the agents that know this process. Also if its is going to affect an Australian that you do not go ie one of you is Australian then they will also consider this as well. It as always is a case by case basis so no need to completely give up hope and not try. If you talk to your agent about the waiver situation they will know what the chances are. I have done lots of research on this and also had advice from three agents about this information before I took one on to help with our situation. Cheers and Good luck Thank you...I think we need to try...is your husband on meds? Did you get a visa granted in the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, KangaKit said: Thank you...I think we need to try...is your husband on meds? Did you get a visa granted in the end? One of the things they look at when they consider medical issues is the prognosis over a set period of years and how much that is likely to cost - which is why it's important for the specialist to give a longer term prognosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangaKit Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, ali said: One of the things they look at when they consider medical issues is the prognosis over a set period of years and how much that is likely to cost - which is why it's important for the specialist to give a longer term prognosis. OK thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 7 hours ago, KangaKit said: No disability issues, she is an athelete..only had the first flare up associated with hormones. She has no physio and all previous MRIs have been NAD. Phew, that's a better looking profile! Good that you've spoken with an agent about the possible ramifications though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangaKit Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Quoll said: Phew, that's a better looking profile! Good that you've spoken with an agent about the possible ramifications though! Yes..definately worth it! The cost is small compared with everything else we've paid on and it was an agent that frequents on here too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elayna Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Hey Kanga - we are still in the process and will inform you if we get further along - He is on meds yes at least 4 regarding his illness and he now goes for infusions every 6 - 8 months that are the world of difference - we looked up the cost of all these through the medical site http://www.pbs.gov.au/info/about-the-pbs to help us work out what the costing would be - there are different factors with the visa you will go for - they judge it on three different stages and two of them depend on if the visa is temporary and or permanent. One is judged over five years of the medical needs you have and then one can be judge on 10 yrs of the cost - that is the one they are all mentioning here and I believe its approx $49 000 over the ten yrs. Of course you would have to factor the cost of doctors visits, specialist visits, blood work and other such things that would be needed for RA. We found it useful to check this all out and find out the cost to the patient if there was a gap after Medicare also if we took out private health would it make much difference. Thankfully my husband's prognosis is ok as he has no mobility issues and still works now - although he deals with pain daily he manages it on the medications he now takes. I hope this info might help with thinking about your costs and so forth when you're talking to the agent working with your case. Let me know if you need more info and i will try to keep checking back as we progress through our application too I am hoping to find someone that has done the appeal or the Health Waiver as I suspect we might have to get. Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, Elayna said: One is judged over five years of the medical needs you have and then one can be judge on 10 yrs of the cost - that is the one they are all mentioning here and I believe its approx $49 000 over the ten yrs. Of course you would have to factor the cost of doctors visits, specialist visits, blood work and other such things that would be needed for RA. We found it useful to check this all out and find out the cost to the patient if there was a gap after Medicare also if we took out private health would it make much difference. To be clear, Immigration isn't worried about what it will cost you - they are worried about what it will cost the taxpayer (because hospital and doctor's visits and prescriptions are all subsidised by the government). Having private health insurance makes no difference because once you have the visa, there is legally no way to force you to have private health insurance - so they assume Medicare will be wearing the total cost. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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