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CTF - what's the solution

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1 minute ago, Toots said:

I think it was very sad that Diana and her mother had a falling out and her mother stated that they hadn't spoken to each other in the four months before Diana's death so the rift between them was never healed.  Lady Fermoy (Diana's maternal grandmother) also said she and Diana weren't on speaking terms either before her death.  Not a happy family.

That's nice dear. Would you like me to take you back inside now ? 😉

 

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Just now, Slean Wolfhead said:

That's nice dear. Would you like me to take you back inside now ? 😉

 

Sorry about that   .............................  another of my senior's moments.  😄

I have put it where it should be.

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3 hours ago, ali said:

 

I know it's a big ask (because it's one that's asked repeatedly to no avail), but I really don't understand why people can't moderate their own content.

Because there are racists and homophobes on here. They see this kind of behaviour as banter.

Look at this thread and the people who don't want change. Look at who put laughing faces against posts.

I've said it many times before, those posters are not a good advert for this forum, it's suprising the owners/mods allow it to continue.

 

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4 hours ago, kungfustu said:

The fence sitting is there in all it’s glory.....a few hours ago you was saying let people have some banter.....for some reason now you wouldn’t miss it.....and you wonder where the fence sitting comes from.....make a decision.....and stick to it.

So, I express an opinion, then read a lot of other opinions, and then refine my opinion, and somehow you think this is odd?

Really? That's the way you go through life isn't it?

You form an opinion and then just argue without ever listening to counter arguments? Never changing your mind?

Because that is what you do.

Have you never thought this could be a personality flaw? It's certainly not normal.

It's almost like you are supporting a team, and never give any thoughts other than it's your team and you are supporting them.

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4 hours ago, kungfustu said:

Civil? 
google hypocrite.....

ive reported 2 posts since 2009 (I think)....both in the past year from you.....one using my son joining the army to try and ridicule me.....the other was editing a post of mine that you quoted......and you talk about being civil......😂....classic👌

First one was a valid question. You were supporting an action that could have put your son or other people's sons into a terrible situation. I thought it fair to ask why.

The second was a joke, and anybody would have known it to be a joke over something I got sick of trying to explain to you over and over again.

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12 minutes ago, unzippy said:

Because there are racists and homophobes on here. They see this kind of behaviour as banter.

Look at this thread and the people who don't want change. Look at who put laughing faces against posts.

I've said it many times before, those posters are not a good advert for this forum, it's suprising the owners/mods allow it to continue.

 

Look who's putting laughing faces against unzippys post. Is this really the level of debate?

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2 hours ago, ali said:

One of the key themes from this thread is about what's acceptable/unacceptable and having more defined rules so that they can be enforced in a consistent manner - i

Good.  Your suspension rate is a very fair 10%, but there is another who's knocking at a turbocharged 70% of the total.    Some of them have been mystifying.

 


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2 hours ago, ssiri said:

 

 


That’s all great to hear, but I’d suggest you gets-the feedback you receive with reference to content and rules to a professional (legal and/or brand specialist) to advise you all about, and help you in making your decisions with what ideas/rules.content to take forward/bin.

 

 

I'm sure admin do have legal representation - they've had to consult once or twice when people have threatened them with action due to posts on the site.

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I'm sure admin do have legal representation - they've had to consult once or twice when people have threatened them with action due to posts on the site.

 

It’s more about proper 360 safe-guarding, not a couple of people. Legal representation were Ombudsman, Feds, Govt etc. To come calling is a collect key different league altogether.

 

That also means, making the change to get rules and content updates gets a professional viewing. I’m guessing, whilst we are all happy to weigh in with our opinions of what should be changed and how, none of us (or few of us) are professional legal, or other experts.

 

Us all ploughing in unverified, could do kite harm than good.

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4 hours ago, unzippy said:

Look at this thread and the people who don't want change. Look at who put laughing faces against posts.

I've said it many times before, those posters are not a good advert for this forum, it's suprising the owners/mods allow it to continue.

 

Umm, eeekkk, ive 'laughed' at a few posts on this thread and often do when a post makes me smile or giggle (regardless of poster) and to be fair ,i dont really like change either and would hate to see CTF shut after all this time.(using the moderated posts function is probably what id vote for). does this mean im one of the trolls too?lol.. 

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3 hours ago, unzippy said:

Because there are racists and homophobes on here. They see this kind of behaviour as banter.

Look at this thread and the people who don't want change. Look at who put laughing faces against posts.

I've said it many times before, those posters are not a good advert for this forum, it's suprising the owners/mods allow it to continue.

 

 

3 hours ago, newjez said:

Look who's putting laughing faces against unzippys post. Is this really the level of debate?

 

3 hours ago, unzippy said:

Because there are racists and homophobes on here. They see this kind of behaviour as banter.

Look at this thread and the people who don't want change. Look at who put laughing faces against posts.

I've said it many times before, those posters are not a good advert for this forum, it's suprising the owners/mods allow it to continue.

 

@newjez it's funny because it's ridiculous.  Myself and others are constantly labeled as "racist" "homophobic" "Nazi" ....  In my opinion these are top of the tree of personal insults and very serious charges. I would expect any genuine cases to be dealt with.

The problem is that the woke see it everywhere but when asked to point it out they can't because it either isn't there or someone less up-to-date with woke terminology has used an old fashioned term or expressed an outdated opinion.  

People's lives are being destroyed because of these allegations and I believe it's time the sjws looked at themselves.

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1 minute ago, simmo said:

 

 

@newjez it's funny because it's ridiculous.  Myself and others are constantly labeled as "racist" "homophobic" "Nazi" ....  In my opinion these are top of the tree of personal insults and very serious charges. I would expect any genuine cases to be dealt with.

The problem is that the woke see it everywhere but when asked to point it out they can't because it either isn't there or someone less up-to-date with woke terminology has used an old fashioned term or expressed an outdated opinion.  

People's lives are being destroyed because of these allegations and I believe it's time the sjws looked at themselves.

I haven't got the time of day for racism and homophobia and I abhor being spoken down to in any sort of arrogant way.  There is only one poster here who I have a problem with who gets away with blatant racist remarks and comes across as arrogant.  Maybe most of you have no idea who I am talking about.  Maybe most of you never noticed those remarks.  That's fine.  I couldn't even be bothered to make a report.  I just exit PIO and think maybe he/she will mellow in time.

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Just now, Toots said:

I haven't got the time of day for racism and homophobia and I abhor being spoken down to in any sort of arrogant way.  There is only one poster here who I have a problem with who gets away with blatant racist remarks and comes across as arrogant.  Maybe most of you have no idea who I am talking about.  Maybe most of you never noticed those remarks.  That's fine.  I couldn't even be bothered to make a report.  I just exit PIO and think maybe he/she will mellow in time.

And therefore they carry on with that behaviour.

Call it out Toots.

 

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1 minute ago, unzippy said:

And therefore they carry on with that behaviour.

Call it out Toots.

 

That particular person hasn't posted for a day or two.  Maybe has been put on the naughty corner.   

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14 minutes ago, simmo said:

 

 

@newjez it's funny because it's ridiculous.  Myself and others are constantly labeled as "racist" "homophobic" "Nazi" ....  In my opinion these are top of the tree of personal insults and very serious charges. I would expect any genuine cases to be dealt with.

The problem is that the woke see it everywhere but when asked to point it out they can't because it either isn't there or someone less up-to-date with woke terminology has used an old fashioned term or expressed an outdated opinion.  

People's lives are being destroyed because of these allegations and I believe it's time the sjws looked at themselves.

I'm not saying your not aware of political correctness.

There have been several threads were you allude to things, and when people try to pin you down you twist and turn because you know if you say what you want to say you will be banned.

You are obviously not racidt against all races, but you do carry a lot of racial insensitivity. You do seem to quite like any race that doesn't like Muslims.

But you are outwardly islamophobic, and you view the religion as sub human, and I do believe you would rather there were no Muslims in the UK.

I think you would find it difficult to deny this.

The type of threads we see are when a person of a minority does something, and the thread is used to cast aspersions on the whole race. This has been very prevalent recently. You could even get away with it except for the fact that the sheer number of threads in this form points to hate type behaviour.

You see, you might get away with it in a single thread. We might not be able to point at a single post and say example m'lord. But your overall behaviour on the site is one that has a real issue with minority.

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8 minutes ago, Toots said:

I haven't got the time of day for racism and homophobia and I abhor being spoken down to in any sort of arrogant way.  There is only one poster here who I have a problem with who gets away with blatant racist remarks and comes across as arrogant.  Maybe most of you have no idea who I am talking about.  Maybe most of you never noticed those remarks.  That's fine.  I couldn't even be bothered to make a report.  I just exit PIO and think maybe he/she will mellow in time.

Have you seen much mellowing toots?

Personally I think brexit has brought this to a head, and has created two camps which deliberately try and wind the other up.

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I know as mods we go on and on about not replying to a thread if you dont like whats written/ have to get personal blah,blah,blah but thinking about what a poster wrote earlier that some start threads they know will ''raise eyebrows'' purposely,,, (on a serious note here), has anyone ever thought of just not replying to a thread that they feel has been posted purely to get a reaction? Maybe doing this would stop these OPs starting more threads and end a lot of the agro. A sort of boycott thing everyone adheres too,lol.....Could be worth a try?????

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2 minutes ago, newjez said:

I'm not saying your not aware of political correctness.

There have been several threads were you allude to things, and when people try to pin you down you twist and turn because you know if you say what you want to say you will be banned.

You are obviously not racist against all racist, but you do carry a lot of racial insensitivity.

But you are outwardly islamophobic, and you view the religion as sub human, and I do believe you would rather there were no Muslims in the UK.

I think you would find it difficult to deny this.

The type of threads we see are when a person of a minority does something, and the thread is used to cast aspersions on the whole race. This has been very prevalent recently. You could even get away with it except for the fact that the sheer number of threads in this form points to hate type behaviour.

You see, you might get away with it in a single thread. We might not be able to point at a single post and say example m'lord. But your overall behaviour on the site is one that has a real issue with minority.

I have issues with the religion of Islam (guilty as charged)  others have expressed issues with Christianity, why shouldn't we? The problem is your insistence on giving people labels.. so I'm an "islamophobe" now am I? Anything else you want to label me whilst you are at it? So I have issues with "minorities" and show signs of "hate type behaviour". 

Why? Because I have views that differ from yours. 

You will have your echo chamber soon enough and then what?

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4 hours ago, unzippy said:

Because there are racists and homophobes on here. They see this kind of behaviour as banter.

Look at this thread and the people who don't want change. Look at who put laughing faces against posts.

I've said it many times before, those posters are not a good advert for this forum, it's suprising the owners/mods allow it to continue.

 

Spot on!

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4 hours ago, ali said:

I'm sure admin do have legal representation - they've had to consult once or twice when people have threatened them with action due to posts on the site.

It would also be nice to know what you got suspended for. Sometimes I get a ban and I haven't a clue what for.

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10 minutes ago, newjez said:

It would also be nice to know what you got suspended for. Sometimes I get a ban and I haven't a clue what for.

Agreed.

How can we learn...

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28 minutes ago, newjez said:

It would also be nice to know what you got suspended for. Sometimes I get a ban and I haven't a clue what for.

I've you've had a suspension from me I always write why .. not sure what comes through to you 

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I've not had a bad in years now...... I've learnt how far is far enough......

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1 hour ago, simmo said:

So I have issues with "minorities" and show signs of "hate type behaviour". 

Why? Because I have views that differ from yours. 

So, you think I object to your racist views because they are different to mine?

I object to your racist views because they are racist views.

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4 minutes ago, newjez said:

So, you think I object to your racist views because they are different to mine?

I object to your racist views because they are racist views.

Yet you can't quite put your finger on why my views are "racist".  🤔

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