Drumbeat Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Parley said: https://au.indeed.com/career/nurse/salaries/Victoria That site quotes an average, it would be more meaningful if examples were provided. If I was still nursing I’d expect to be earning more than $75,000 FTE especially with shift penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Just now, Drumbeat said: That site quotes an average, it would be more meaningful if examples were provided. If I was still nursing I’d expect to be earning more than $75,000 FTE especially with shift penalties. That is a long way from $130,000. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavers Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Paul1Perth said: You'll get the first homebuyers grant too won't you? We thought about building but we had already decided the suburb we wanted to live in, had a 2 year old and decided to go for an established 4x2. We were sick of renting and really wanted our own place. Bit of a buyers market then though, December 92, lots of houses to look at and a decent offer just below asking price did the trick. Had the usual 25 year mortgage that you worry about for a bit but you get there. That's life eh. Yeah we get the first homebuyers grant and with building our own house, we are only paying stamp duty on the land which allows us to borrow more and get in a bigger mess haha. Only joking, I'd rather have a mortgage than pay someone else's. We pay $520 a week for rent at the minute so the mortgage will be cheaper. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Drumbeat said: Why?? Nurses are professionals, many have 20 - 30 years of experience with a Masters degree and a massive amount of responsibility. Would you have said the same if she was an engineer? Or a doctorate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Drumbeat said: Why?? Nurses are professionals, many have 20 - 30 years of experience with a Masters degree and a massive amount of responsibility. Would you have said the same if she was an engineer? My wife was a senior sister on a neuro ward in her early 20's, she did her midwifery after that, after years of shiftwork she went back to uni, did the health visitors course/degree and worked as a health visitor for a few years before we emigrated. Went back into nursing and shiftwork to get us by when we came here. Eventually moved into the Child development centre, close as you get here to health visiting and now works 2 days a week in an oncology clinic. She's run wards and clinics but never been on more than about $50 an hour. Not saying she shouldn't have been paid more, as far as I'm concerned nurses have never got enough. I'm an Engineer and I've been on more money nearly all my working life. Not saying that's right BTW, she's just as qualified and a lot more dedicated than I ever was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 From WA health. These are base salaries not including penalties or qualification allowances etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, HappyHeart said: From WA health. These are base salaries not including penalties or qualification allowances etc My wife was SRN qualified before she was 20 and the amount she gets here is way better than what she was getting in the UK. Don't know what you have to do to get to SRN level 10? She got to the stage where the management were pressurising her to run the clinic at one time, she's been in management before though and likes nursing much more, she loves contact with patients and if I was sick she would be the nurse I'd want. I know when she was managing the hours were a lot longer, usually for no extra pay, she had to go to more meetings than spend time with patients and had to justify the budget for the ward then when Christmas came and she had to do rosters her "friends" wouldn't speak to her as, obviously, they all wanted days off when someone had to work. It really got her down and was more stressed than I've ever known her. In the end the extra stress wasn't worth the extra money. Edited June 1, 2021 by Paul1Perth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Paul1Perth said: My wife was SRN qualified before she was 20 and the amount she gets here is way better than what she was getting in the UK. Don't know what you have to do to get to SRN level 10? She got to the stage where the management were pressurising her to run the clinic at one time, she's been in management before though and likes nursing much more, she loves contact with patients and if I was sick she would be the nurse I'd want. I know when she was managing the hours were a lot longer, usually for no extra pay, she had to go to more meetings than spend time with patients and had to justify the budget for the ward then when Christmas came and she had to do rosters her "friends" wouldn't speak to her as, obviously, they all wanted days off when someone had to work. It really got her down and was more stressed than I've ever known her. In the end the extra stress wasn't worth the extra money. SRN means something else in the U.K. (state registered nurse) All trained nurses were SRN or SEN (state enrolled nurse) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, HappyHeart said: SRN means something else in the U.K. (state registered nurse) All trained nurses were SRN or SEN (state enrolled nurse) I know she's a Senior Registered nurse here. She was SRN in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Paul1Perth said: I know she's a Senior Registered nurse here. She was SRN in the UK. She must be on more than $50 an hour then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HappyHeart said: She must be on more than $50 an hour then. Something she's not telling you?! Edited June 1, 2021 by HappyHeart Failed edit. Quoted myself instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumbeat Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 42 minutes ago, Paul1Perth said: My wife was a senior sister on a neuro ward in her early 20's, she did her midwifery after that, after years of shiftwork she went back to uni, did the health visitors course/degree and worked as a health visitor for a few years before we emigrated. Went back into nursing and shiftwork to get us by when we came here. Eventually moved into the Child development centre, close as you get here to health visiting and now works 2 days a week in an oncology clinic. She's run wards and clinics but never been on more than about $50 an hour. Not saying she shouldn't have been paid more, as far as I'm concerned nurses have never got enough. I'm an Engineer and I've been on more money nearly all my working life. Not saying that's right BTW, she's just as qualified and a lot more dedicated than I ever was. It was the same in our house, husband worked in the resources industry so always earned much more than me. I could have earned more if I'd moved into a more of a Management role but was never interested. The development of the SRN Level roles and Nurse Practitioners has opened more opportunities in Nursing, thank heavens. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Drumbeat said: It was the same in our house, husband worked in the resources industry so always earned much more than me. I could have earned more if I'd moved into a more of a Management role but was never interested. The development of the SRN Level roles and Nurse Practitioners has opened more opportunities in Nursing, thank heavens. Can a nurse practitioner outrank a doctor? I know it's a highly skilled role. I have a friend who studied for several years to obtain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumbeat Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Parley said: That is a long way from $130,000. Well I'd be on around $100, 000 with shift penalties working full-time, my former colleagues earn more than that in more senior roles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyman Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 01/06/2021 at 11:42, HappyHeart said: A nurse manager or nurse practitioner earns well in excess of $100k in private or NFP. More in the public sector. Its a diverse career with a diverse salary range according to skill level, responsibility and experience. A newly qualified nurse will earn between around $27-33 p/h. Go to the top and earn in excess of $70...probably more. Same in most jobs. Not many nurses earning $70 plus /h if any ??, they might on penalty rates but not across a normal working week. year 8 plus nurse around 50 p/h depending on actual job title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyman Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 01/06/2021 at 15:34, newjez said: Can a nurse practitioner outrank a doctor? I know it's a highly skilled role. I have a friend who studied for several years to obtain it. No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Rallyman said: Not many nurses earning $70 plus /h if any ??, they might on penalty rates but not across a normal working week. year 8 plus nurse around 50 p/h depending on actual job title. Like I said, flat rate $70 if level 3 and above. Clinical nurse consultant or specialist. The pay range is wide. RN, CN, CNC, CNM. A 2.4 top grade clinical nurse earns about $51/hr. with Penalty for Sun can take it up to in excess of $80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 On 01/06/2021 at 13:34, newjez said: Can a nurse practitioner outrank a doctor? I know it's a highly skilled role. I have a friend who studied for several years to obtain it. What do you mean by outrank? A top nurse practitioner can earn more than a newly minted Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, HappyHeart said: What do you mean by outrank? A top nurse practitioner can earn more than a newly minted Dr. 7 minutes ago, HappyHeart said: Like I said, flat rate $70 if level 3 and above. Clinical nurse consultant or specialist. The pay range is wide. RN, CN, CNC, CNM. A 2.4 top grade clinical nurse earns about $51/hr. with Penalty for Sun can take it up to in excess of $80. If I do the odd overtime shift (which isn't often), I'll get about $500 for 5 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, ali said: If I do the odd overtime shift (which isn't often), I'll get about $500 for 5 hours Not bad huh I miss those penalty rates..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyman Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, HappyHeart said: Like I said, flat rate $70 if level 3 and above. Clinical nurse consultant or specialist. The pay range is wide. RN, CN, CNC, CNM. A 2.4 top grade clinical nurse earns about $51/hr. with Penalty for Sun can take it up to in excess of $80. I know what nurses earn my wife is one, she is in oncology has been a NUM 2 down in sydney now working in private sector doing chemo at homes and as a casual in local hospital doing palliative care big money on a public holiday but nowhere near 70 p/h on a normal day. There are not many nurses earning 70 p/h or the amount of these very high paying jobs very speciality jobs available. Edited July 11, 2021 by Rallyman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Rallyman said: I know what nurses earn my wife is one, she is in oncology has been a NUM 2 down in sydney now working in private sector doing chemo at homes and as a casual in local hospital doing palliative care big money on a public holiday but nowhere near 70 p/h on a normal day. There are not many nurses earning 70 p/h or the amount of these very high paying jobs very speciality jobs available. I also know what nurses earn too. Nurses pay in the public sector is freely available to look up under the award. No RN or CN earns base rate $70. Many CNM, CNC, NP do. Private sector often pays less. NFP even less. There are state differences too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyman Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, HappyHeart said: I also know what nurses earn too. Nurses pay in the public sector is freely available to look up under the award. No RN or CN earns base rate $70. Many CNM, CNC, NP do. Private sector often pays less. NFP even less. There are state differences too. You are quoting very specialist positions , very highly experienced and qualified and few opportunities actually out there. There are more nurses earning around the $50 per hour for normal hrs than what you are making out, certainly over here in nsw , apply penalty rates and yes you go up to that and well past it but the reality is that most are not on penalty rates . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, Rallyman said: You are quoting very specialist positions , very highly experienced and qualified and few opportunities actually out there. There are more nurses earning around the $50 per hour for normal hrs than what you are making out, certainly over here in nsw , apply penalty rates and yes you go up to that and well past it but the reality is that most are not on penalty rates . I know? I'm not sure why we're still talking about it? Majority of nurses work at RN and CN level. Most hospital wards and other nursing departments in community etc have a team of RN, less CN, 1 CNC/CNS and a NP or NM. All sectors that work across a 24/7 time period attracts penalties. I'm.not sure about in other states but in WA public sector also pays a qualification allowance too for nurses with post grad qualifications. We're well off topic now so this'll be my last comment. See what you started @Blue Flu?? Yes, your friend was highly likely to be earning 130k in a senior nursing role. Those combined salaries you quoted would certainly secure a home loan if one was motivated to find the right home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 hours ago, HappyHeart said: What do you mean by outrank? A top nurse practitioner can earn more than a newly minted Dr. By outrank I mean have authority to make decisions and over rule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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