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18 minutes ago, ssiri said:

 


Yes. Apart from its longer incubation, is its make-up that means it lingers/attacks the body for longer.... the scientists globally have been able to isolate and study the protein structures within the virus, thanks to an Aussie matter/atom splitting cyclotron (type device).

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/new-coronavirus-study-reveals-increased-risks-from-middle-age

And the structure of the virus makes it much more deadly than other epidemics because it allows it to latch onto human cells better and penetrate the cells easily which is why it is more infectious than other virus

Mind you what would any scientist know as the Daily Mail continues to tell us that quarantine is a complete over reaction and a restriction on people's inalienable right to catch it if they want and pass it around to any vulnerable group and kill them, ever such compassionate animal lovers these DM readers.

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4 minutes ago, Dusty Plains said:

Yet I notice that you have made no argument whatsoever, in your retort, in terms of how good leadership or othterwise (including therefore, the not-so-good) relates to the subject matter of this discussion thread headed as "Cororna Virus". Is COVID-19 just another offering  for yet another parallel lefty muse? 

Only a month or two ago your were advocating worlds end due to Global Warming!  Yet we have not heard from your ramblings in that particular respect since.  

What is the next fleeting opportunity laid before you for you to make a mere political lecture to us all?

Socialists adore upheaval.

No political point, simply that my own govt, and America's have failed to show leadership or planning for this pandemic even when they saw its development in China and then Italy and Asia.

The UK started to put in place a pandemic policy in 2016 and then when they realised its cost sidelined it and failed to do anything, finally abandoning it in November 2019 as Brexit and the election gripped govt and civil service, the result is their is an insufficiency of PPE because there is no stockpile of supplies, exactly as in the USA,

On the 9th March I pointed out the lack of IC beds in the UK to deal with this event, it seemed like it was another week before there was a realisation by our govt of that fact.

We still fail to test sufficient people to get a grip of the situation and as a result are being told quaratine might go on for 6 months, China and S korea have got their outbreaks under control thro aggressive testing and isolation, Germany's outbreak has been controlled by testing at a very high rate.

My govt and yours are going to expose their citizens to a very long period of isolation because of their incompetence and are sacrificing medical staff in the same way they sacrificed soldiers on the Western Front in 1916 because of incompetence, they have 100 years of form for it.

As far as Chump is concerned show me one coherent utterance by him that would indicate he has any grasp of the situation his country faces or a credible reasoned strategy for getting the virus under control. He lies, casts aspersions, promotes conspiracy theories,  blames everyone but himself, as he desperately seeks re election

Joe Hockey as far as I can remember him as Treasurer was a man of insensitivity and banality on par with Chump, much given to ill thought out utterances such as,

In April 2014 he was roundly criticised for saying: "the poorest people either don't have cars or actually don't drive very far in many cases," when discussing the Government's desire to increase fuel tax. 

 This epidemic is showing what can be achieved when govts realise that their future hangs in the balance but choose to do little about global warming where they can pretend that the consequences of doing little are inconsequential, this pandemic is going to radicalise a huge swathe of people as the consequences of doing little are writ large for us

Instead of shooting the messenger why not listen to the message

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2 hours ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

If Sweden keeps its deaths and infections below countries who are implying strict rules it will say we are going a tad over the top dosent it.


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3 hours ago, Perthbum said:

If Sweden keeps its deaths and infections below countries who are implying strict rules it will say we are going a tad over the top dosent it.

The only way that is going to happen is if they aggressively test, trace and isolate, otherwise they are simply  3-4 weeks behind the rest of the world.

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5 hours ago, Perthbum said:

If Sweden keeps its deaths and infections below countries who are implying strict rules it will say we are going a tad over the top dosent it.

And if Sweden doesn’t then I’m sure you will be glad action was taken, as we all will be. It’s an unknown so always better to go overboard than risk unnecessary suffering.   You still keep making light of this thing.  It’s up to you what you think but simmo (and others like him) may well have just been through the most frightening few weeks of their lives. Please consider showing respect for the many thousands who are terrified whilst recovering and the many thousands that never made it.

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24 minutes ago, Tulip1 said:

And if Sweden doesn’t then I’m sure you will be glad action was taken, as we all will be. It’s an unknown so always better to go overboard than risk unnecessary suffering.   You still keep making light of this thing.  It’s up to you what you think but simmo (and others like him) may well have just been through the most frightening few weeks of their lives. Please consider showing respect for the many thousands who are terrified whilst recovering and the many thousands that never made it.

I feel respect for the millions worldwide who die of any virus or infection, TB is the bigger killer worldwide but we in the western world do not take much notice of the numbers because it is not infecting us personally. The majority of people will have mild symptoms and like the flu virus some will not and die, this virus will be with us for decades.


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13 hours ago, ssiri said:

Yes. But I wouldn’t expect more from a country where the majority of the population isn’t educated, or provides cheap manual labour - coming from undeveloped villages to the city. Similarly, the continent of Africa. Those with weak social infrastructure, health systems or economies were never going to be leading lights.

 

 

I dread to think what the death toll will be like in Africa.  It's not just the lack of medical facilities:  large portions of the population already have compromised health due to bilharzia or AIDS.  The countries which have experienced Ebola will understand and practice social distancing but elsewhere in Africa, it will be a struggle to get people to comply. Many victims will probably die in villages, surrounded by their families, followed by a funeral with a large attendance. 

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10 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

I dread to think what the death toll will be like in Africa.  It's not just the lack of medical facilities:  large portions of the population already have compromised health due to bilharzia or AIDS.  The countries which have experienced Ebola will understand and practice social distancing but elsewhere in Africa, it will be a struggle to get people to comply. Many victims will probably die in villages, surrounded by their families, followed by a funeral with a large attendance. 

Truely, the real horrors of this pandemic are in the future as it ravages the under developed world and the refugee camps

Welcome to 1918 and 40,000,000 dead.

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I dread to think what the death toll will be like in Africa.  It's not just the lack of medical facilities:  large portions of the population already have compromised health due to bilharzia or AIDS.  The countries which have experienced Ebola will understand and practice social distancing but elsewhere in Africa, it will be a struggle to get people to comply. Many victims will probably die in villages, surrounded by their families, followed by a funeral with a large attendance. 


Sadly. Yes.

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More conspiracies?



Im waiting till we are at the other end of this to see how the world will change and move forward.
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24 minutes ago, ssiri said:

 

 


Im waiting till we are at the other end of this to see how the world will change and move forward.

 

 

Aren't we all. So in the meantime it would be good get behind the broader strategies set to combat COVID-19, and support our leaders, as opposed to throwing stones at them.

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8 hours ago, Marisawright said:

I dread to think what the death toll will be like in Africa.  It's not just the lack of medical facilities:  large portions of the population already have compromised health due to bilharzia or AIDS.  The countries which have experienced Ebola will understand and practice social distancing but elsewhere in Africa, it will be a struggle to get people to comply. Many victims will probably die in villages, surrounded by their families, followed by a funeral with a large attendance. 

Compared to how many die of tb and other diseases in Africa on a daily basis this virus will not worry them as much as it does western countries 

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38 minutes ago, Dusty Plains said:

Aren't we all. So in the meantime it would be good get behind the broader strategies set to combat COVID-19, and support our leaders, as opposed to throwing stones at them.

Some people just like to complain.....drives me mad.....moan....bitch.....complain.....negative.....negative.....we are all going to die.....the worlds coming to an end and it s all your fault......its  that culture of "blame" we live in.....just ignore it....I try to but im only human so occasionally I slip up.....

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8 hours ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

You need to look at figures not one death that could have been caused by underlying  factors, the percentage of young people who die of this virus the experts are saying is incredibly low, something like 00000.1%


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37 minutes ago, Perthbum said:

You need to look at figures not one death that could have been caused by underlying  factors, the percentage of young people who die of this virus the experts are saying is incredibly low, something like 00000.1%

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/31/australians-in-their-20s-have-more-confirmed-cases-of-coronavirus-than-any-other-age-group

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39 minutes ago, kungfustu said:

Some people just like to complain.....drives me mad.....moan....bitch.....complain.....negative.....negative.....we are all going to die.....the worlds coming to an end and it s all your fault......its  that culture of "blame" we live in.....just ignore it....I try to but im only human so occasionally I slip up.....

Exactly. My annoyance is those perennial pundits on CTF who want to make a political "told-you-so" for electing leaders who dont align to their political ilk. To them, I say:

Get over it. We are all in this together. Your politics is not going to solve the issue.. This is way way beyond politics. As hard as it may be, get on board and support our governments and leaders.

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My grandparents seem to have it, but no cough or breathing difficulties. My nan has been unwell for about 10 days now, grandad for about 5 days. They rang 111 and were advised to stay home and drink plenty of fluids. So hoping they come out of it okay and recover at home. 

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3 minutes ago, BritChickx said:

My grandparents seem to have it, but no cough or breathing difficulties. My nan has been unwell for about 10 days now, grandad for about 5 days. They rang 111 and were advised to stay home and drink plenty of fluids. So hoping they come out of it okay and recover at home. 

Let us know how your grandparents are getting on.  What a worry for all your family.

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3 minutes ago, BritChickx said:

My grandparents seem to have it, but no cough or breathing difficulties. My nan has been unwell for about 10 days now, grandad for about 5 days. They rang 111 and were advised to stay home and drink plenty of fluids. So hoping they come out of it okay and recover at home. 

Hope they are ok xM

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1 minute ago, Toots said:

Let us know how your grandparents are getting on.  What a worry for all your family.

Thanks, I will. Pretty anxious at the moment. I would  highlight that they don't have any known medical conditions but it doesn't seem to matter now. I'll be getting them to call 111 again if no improvement by the end of the week.

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Please stop with the political type posts, I don’t want the thread ending up like the Brexit one. 

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10 minutes ago, BritChickx said:

My grandparents seem to have it, but no cough or breathing difficulties. My nan has been unwell for about 10 days now, grandad for about 5 days. They rang 111 and were advised to stay home and drink plenty of fluids. So hoping they come out of it okay and recover at home. 

Sorry to hear that hun. Give them lots of love from us.

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