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The UK and Climate Change

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51 minutes ago, Gbye grey sky said:

Do you actually read what you post?  I am not suggesting that you should, by the way as it really isn’t worth it.

A clear example of being so open-minded that your brain fell out.

I suggest that you stick to cutting and pasting those trusty climate-denying ‘talking points’ from the flat-earth fraternity you admire so much.

Why personal comments ? 

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4 hours ago, Parley said:

But you have a closed mind. Totally unwilling to listen to any differing opinions to your own.

On every subject too I might stress.

It's not his opinion, it's scientific analysis agreed by 99% of the scientific community, whereas, on the other hand, you continue to post opinions which seem to be based on highly questionable websites which include statements which are mere conspiracy theories, you seem to be obsessed with some theory that we can continue with our carbon lifestyles and there will be no consequences.

Madness and very selfish attitudes which seem to flow from the carbon industries

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2 hours ago, Rallyman said:

Why personal comments ? 

You mean these?

 

you are a lier , post up where I have said the climate is not changing, I won’t hold my breath as you are a LIER as you can’t 

 

however  you fully know what I said LIAR is that better for you 

 

but if you wish to be a sheep carry on , your hysteria is comical

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42 minutes ago, Gbye grey sky said:

You mean these?

 

you are a lier , post up where I have said the climate is not changing, I won’t hold my breath as you are a LIER as you can’t 

 

however  you fully know what I said LIAR is that better for you 

 

but if you wish to be a sheep carry on , your hysteria is comical

Yes you have posted untruths which you claim I have stated , that makes you a liar , still waiting , by the way your font is too big it’s emphasis the lies 😉
 

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Can you stop acting like children and resorting to personal comments.. Im not wasting my time back tracking and attempting to tidy the tit from the tat but anymore after this post will be removed and accompanied by a little holiday for you.

 Cal x

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If you don't go after what you want, you'll never have it. If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you don't step forward, you're always in the same place...

If you get a chance,take it, If it changes your life,let it. Nobody said it would be easy they just said it would be worth it...

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12 hours ago, Parley said:

The amount of CO2 in the earth's atmosphere is less than 0.04%. A huge problem 🤣🤣

 

7 hours ago, unzippy said:

Can you explain why?

 

Not even a little attempt?

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On 05/02/2020 at 23:06, starlight7 said:

Wouldn’t that be a good thing for Scotland ? Think of all the extra tourists if the weather was better. Same applies to many other northern places. Why all the negatives when there are also positives?

It might be a good thing if all that happened is that it got warmer.

But there's more to it than that.  Few degrees increase and some the animals will leave.  Imagine you get to a point where there are no bees to pollinate plants?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/06/bumblebees-decline-points-to-mass-extinction-study

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3 hours ago, unzippy said:

It might be a good thing if all that happened is that it got warmer.

But there's more to it than that.  Few degrees increase and some the animals will leave.  Imagine you get to a point where there are no bees to pollinate plants?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/06/bumblebees-decline-points-to-mass-extinction-study

A slightly less hysterical POV (and not from the guardian)

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170127142923.htm

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11 minutes ago, simmo said:

A slightly less hysterical POV (and not from the guardian)

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170127142923.htm

Errr, that was referencing bumblebees.  What does that item have to do with the climate change topic?

 


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28 minutes ago, Gbye grey sky said:

Errr, that was referencing bumblebees.  What does that item have to do with the climate change topic?

 

Unzippy mentioned them 

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2 hours ago, Gbye grey sky said:

Errr, that was referencing bumblebees.  What does that item have to do with the climate change topic?

 

Saw a bumble bee today. Bit early I thought, but there are lots of flowers in the garden already.

I drilled out some old logs yesterday. Apparently it makes a great home for wild bees.

Actually, I think we had bees in the garden till early Jan. There's only been a couple of weeks we haven't seen them. We have a weird Holly like tree that flowers as Christmas time, and it's covered with bees.

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6 hours ago, unzippy said:

It might be a good thing if all that happened is that it got warmer.

But there's more to it than that.  Few degrees increase and some the animals will leave.  Imagine you get to a point where there are no bees to pollinate plants?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/06/bumblebees-decline-points-to-mass-extinction-study

You will just get different bees. I can't see it getting too hot for bees in Scotland.

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Not even a little attempt?



Why bother?

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lets be civil people please


Drinking rum before 11am does not make you an alcoholic, it makes you pirate..

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Can’t beat a bit of hypocrisy , climate change champion Elizabeth Warren arriving in her private jet , don’t do as I do do as I say 

 

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https://climatecommunication.yale.edu/about/projects/global-warmings-six-americas/

This is a very interesting study which I have only just become aware of.  We are likely to have the entire cross-section on this forum hence some lively exchanges.

Where does everyone see themselves in relation to these 6 positions?

Interestingly the summary outlines that the ‘Cautious’ and the ‘Doubtful’ are not actively involved though the ‘Dismissive’ are.  Yet some who self-describe as cautious or doubtful on here actively search the blogosphere to highlight climate change scepticism.  Such people are certainly involved actively in promoting a narrative so I think that the ‘dismissive’ group are significantly undercounted in this study.

 
  • The Alarmed: This group is fully convinced of the reality and seriousness of climate change and already taking individual, consumer, and political action to address it.
  • The Concerned: This group is also convinced that the globe is warming and that it's a serious problem, but have not yet engaged with the issue personally, including not always voting for political parties with strong climate policies.
  • The Cautiousthe Disengaged and the Doubtful: These groups represent different stages of understanding and acceptance of the problem. None are actively involved.
  • The Dismissive: This group is very sure that climate change is not happening, and often actively involved as opponents of a national effort to reduce emissions. Some of them are in significant positions of power in government, industry and the media.

 


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If the UK gets rid of gas boilers, what will they replace them with? Electric heating?

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10 hours ago, Gbye grey sky said:

https://climatecommunication.yale.edu/about/projects/global-warmings-six-americas/

This is a very interesting study which I have only just become aware of.  We are likely to have the entire cross-section on this forum hence some lively exchanges.

Where does everyone see themselves in relation to these 6 positions?

Interestingly the summary outlines that the ‘Cautious’ and the ‘Doubtful’ are not actively involved though the ‘Dismissive’ are.  Yet some who self-describe as cautious or doubtful on here actively search the blogosphere to highlight climate change scepticism.  Such people are certainly involved actively in promoting a narrative so I think that the ‘dismissive’ group are significantly undercounted in this study.

 
  • The Alarmed: This group is fully convinced of the reality and seriousness of climate change and already taking individual, consumer, and political action to address it.
  • The Concerned: This group is also convinced that the globe is warming and that it's a serious problem, but have not yet engaged with the issue personally, including not always voting for political parties with strong climate policies.
  • The Cautiousthe Disengaged and the Doubtful: These groups represent different stages of understanding and acceptance of the problem. None are actively involved.
  • The Dismissive: This group is very sure that climate change is not happening, and often actively involved as opponents of a national effort to reduce emissions. Some of them are in significant positions of power in government, industry and the media.

 

I don't really fit in.

I would describe myself as depressed alarmed. I believe it all and have taken action, but I think it's hopeless.

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25 minutes ago, newjez said:

If the UK gets rid of gas boilers, what will they replace them with? Electric heating?

air source heat pumps,  ground source heat pumps, district heating (various fuels), CHP, Biomass....

All rubbish BTW

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On 7/2/2020 at 02:23, unzippy said:

It might be a good thing if all that happened is that it got warmer.

But there's more to it than that.  Few degrees increase and some the animals will leave.  Imagine you get to a point where there are no bees to pollinate plants?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/06/bumblebees-decline-points-to-mass-extinction-study

 If Scotland is warmer the mosquito season will be extended and animal life will reduce including humans, and further south, in England,  will see malaria mosquito become endemic

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2 hours ago, simmo said:

air source heat pumps,  ground source heat pumps, district heating (various fuels), CHP, Biomass....

All rubbish BTW

Well, maybe it'll be warm enough by then so we don't need them.

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8 hours ago, newjez said:

If the UK gets rid of gas boilers, what will they replace them with? Electric heating?

Geothermal boreholes should probably be part of home builds in many cases and can be added retrospectively too.  There may be other options too which would limit the energy requirements of homes.


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14 hours ago, simmo said:

air source heat pumps,  ground source heat pumps, district heating (various fuels), CHP, Biomass....

All rubbish BTW

There's a physics law "energy cannot be created or destroyed" or something like that. Means basically you can't get something for no input.

Whatever heating source you use there has to be energy used to heat whatever you use. 

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5 hours ago, Gbye grey sky said:

Geothermal boreholes should probably be part of home builds in many cases and can be added retrospectively too.  There may be other options too which would limit the energy requirements of homes.

A lot of the 50m pools around Perth use geothermal heating. Very expensive layout but seems to be working well for big installations. Obviously you need the right geothermal rocks and not everywhere has the option. Apparently the area arond the coast near Perth has hot rock not too far down. 

Way too expensive for most private owners to be worth while though. I think our local pool at Craigie was the first to do it. They had to get some pretty specialised equipment and teams from the Eastern states and they had a few problems with the drilling. Few more pools followed suit though now so must be working well long term.

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29 minutes ago, Paul1Perth said:

A lot of the 50m pools around Perth use geothermal heating. Very expensive layout but seems to be working well for big installations. Obviously you need the right geothermal rocks and not everywhere has the option. Apparently the area arond the coast near Perth has hot rock not too far down. 

Way too expensive for most private owners to be worth while though. I think our local pool at Craigie was the first to do it. They had to get some pretty specialised equipment and teams from the Eastern states and they had a few problems with the drilling. Few more pools followed suit though now so must be working well long term.

I remember seeing them on grand designs, but never really understood if they were practical for retro fit.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.granddesignsmagazine.com/home-improvements/99-renewable-heating-at-home&ved=2ahUKEwia7aS0-MXnAhXoRxUIHbAACqAQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3FE4lN9fuLB1_ZN7Pr4kNR&cshid=1581301818738

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