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We seem to hit a bit of a major issue. My husband is an Aeronautical Engineer and some of his work is naturally in the defence industry i.e. government. The government only employee citizens, except in exceptional cicumstances i.e. when no Australian could possibly fill the position. This means he is really struggling to find work as agencies are not interested as this whole issue is too hard for them and if he applies direct to the government he gets rejected because there is always someone else who can do the job even if he maybe the best candidate, not that they ever interview to find out. We know this is the case as he has spoken to the people he has been rejected by.

 

Has anyone got any ideas? Our visas need to be activated by April and it seems to big a risk to go to Australia with this issue and no job.

 

Help!

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Have been in same situation as you, everything looked hopeless as husbands career seemed too specialised for anyone to understand. We have been informed that there is a citizenship waiver for defence companies if they see fit to use it, which apparently they do. I have also read that agencies etc don't really show any interest until you are literally on the verge of moving ie a couple of weeks. Don't quote me on any of this as it is hearsay but thought it may put your mind at rest a tiny bit. Anything helps this time of year, right? No agencies would take us on as they could see no way forward for us, however we have just been approved for STNI Victoria so there is always a way if you look hard enough.

 

Good Luck!

 

Emma


Dan 37 (Nerd!), Emma 34 (Domestic Goddess!), Alice 8 (Teenager in training!), Lily 7 (Clown!)

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Where in Australia are you going? I will ask hubby for contacts he has made over there.

 

Emma


Dan 37 (Nerd!), Emma 34 (Domestic Goddess!), Alice 8 (Teenager in training!), Lily 7 (Clown!)

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Guest spray21

I don't know what kind of visa you have but presumably it was not easy to get - why not send hubby over alone for 6 weeks or so to make contact face to face? A lot of people have said that employers are not interested in 'prospective' immigrants, only ones who have arrived and are ready to work.

At least then you could validate the visa which would give you more thinking time? Just an idea!

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Thanks.

 

That is the confusing thing visa was very easy to get - we have permanent skilled independent. His occupation is a maximum 60 points and we even had points to spare! Only had ever had two emails from case officer one to request medical and one to say we had it!!

 

We have thought about sending him out, but he can not get more than 3 weeks off work and the logistics for me would be a nightmare. We have a one year old and her nursery is at his work. If I take her there on my way to work it takes me two hours to get to work, which is just not possible for more that a couple of days.

 

Anyway I dont want to winge, we need to think of a positive solution!

 

All and every daft suggestion welcome...

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Guest spray21

Depending on how supportive his employers are, could your OH ask for a sabbatical or something? Anything to try and get a bit longer off.

If that's not possible then I guess it comes down to how badly you want to move to Australia & how much of a risk you can afford to take. If you aren't that bothered then wait until it's more convenient and re-apply.

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Have just spoken to hubby. He has recommended a few contacts.

 

We have Scott Jerome at Kinetic Defence which is an agency based in Sydney but he has contacts all over and was really helpful. Phone 0061294927500.

 

Chris Coleman is in the Australian Immigration Group and has defence engineering contacts. He again was really approachable and helpful. Phone 0061398670221.

 

You could also try Tanner Menzies Australia, they are an agency who have a lot of defence work. My husband isn't an engineer so his contact there would be no good but they do engineering so their website may be worth a look.

 

Hope this helps a little.

 

Let me know how you get on.

 

Good Luck

 

Emma


Dan 37 (Nerd!), Emma 34 (Domestic Goddess!), Alice 8 (Teenager in training!), Lily 7 (Clown!)

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Guest fatpom

I worked for 18 years in aerospace in the UK (trade & professional level). Last 9-10 years in Aus haven't worked in aerospace at all. The main reason for this is that aerospace is a relatively small industry. If you're a LAME or similar no worries but design, dev & manf is quite hard to get into. Many jobs require citizenship which used to take 2 years (now rising to 4 years I believe?). So by the time I qualified on that score I'd already built a work life outside.

A lot will depend on your area of expertise & luck of the draw. There isn't much civil aerospace work. There is much more military work but they usually stipulate an ex-military person as preferred for obvious reasons.

I gave up looking for aerospace work probably 6 years ago so I'm not too up to date but if your looking for some particular info I may be able to point you inj the right direction.

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Guest Pesky Varmit

Hi there

 

We're in the same situation as you, ie hubby worked in defence industry at home. We knew this might be a problem before we arrived and decided to go for it anyway. He is a design engineer so could fall back into ordinary engineering if he needed to. He had 18 yrs experience in defence back home but apparently there are ways and means, like someone else has posted, if they really want you. We have heard this directly at a meeting for new immigrants, so chin up and think positive.

 

Good luck with the plans, come and experience it.....it's all worth it in the end! :)

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Guest Pesky Varmit

P.S restfamily, we came out with no jobs and a motel lined up for ten nights. In less than a week we managed to find a lovely rental by the sea, kids had places in school, we'd bought our cars and hubby went to immigration meetings and came out most positive about job prospects.

 

Job hunting starts after christmas break as we just had too much to do before hand, like furnishing a house, buying uniforms and santa's arrival for our three kids!! :)

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Guest pabloke99
Thanks for all the positive comments. We'll keep trying.

Hi, has your OH considered applying to join the Australian Defence Force (ADF)? An aeronautical engineer would be snapped up!

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Guest Ringo Starr

As an aeronautical engineer, like myself, he undoubtedly has extensive tranferable skills which could provide opportunities for employment in industries unrelated to aircraft. Certainly the Oil and Gas and mining sectors are always interested in aircraft engineers. Obviously it would depend on the area you're looking at and what visa you have but from what I've heard of several locations there are plenty of jobs. Can I enquire how your husband found the trade recognition process?

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As an aeronautical engineer, like myself, he undoubtedly has extensive tranferable skills which could provide opportunities for employment in industries unrelated to aircraft. Certainly the Oil and Gas and mining sectors are always interested in aircraft engineers. Obviously it would depend on the area you're looking at and what visa you have but from what I've heard of several locations there are plenty of jobs. Can I enquire how your husband found the trade recognition process?

 

This thread is 5 years old Ringo Starr. :smile:


(RSMS 187) RCB 26.09.2013, Nomination 14.10.2013, Visa re-lodged 27.10.2013 non DRC. Child and Family Health nurse. Low risk country. Nomination and Visa both granted 03.12.2013. :jiggy:

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Guest aerobilly

I am an Aerospace engineer & moving to Brisbane, Australia on 5 June, 2012. I have 20 years of defence experience. No idea how to start looking for jobs in Australia. Any one has any ideas?

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aerobilly the thread is 5 years old, have you thought of starting your own thread to ask?


(RSMS 187) RCB 26.09.2013, Nomination 14.10.2013, Visa re-lodged 27.10.2013 non DRC. Child and Family Health nurse. Low risk country. Nomination and Visa both granted 03.12.2013. :jiggy:

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