Ollie1234 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Marisawright said: Sure, but the government could also point out that it was your choice that created the situation in the first place, and you could equally well move back to your home country to care for them. Yep, and I could take my business with me. And my super. And savings. This isn't a helpful comment is it? Ultimately if my parents can't get the visa I'll be left with no choice to return back to the UK to look after them when the time comes. I'm more than prepared to do that. I don't think asking for transparency into the process is anything to do with my decision to move to Australia to marry my Australian husband! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ollie1234 said: Surely then the gov should ensure that parents come with enough money to support themsleves? 4 minutes ago, Ollie1234 said: Surely then the gov should ensure that parents come with enough money to support themsleves? 4 minutes ago, Ollie1234 said: Surely then the gov should ensure that parents come with enough money to support themsleves? Then it could be argued you are buying yourself into the country. Don’t forget that parents want to come here from all over the world not jus UK, not everyone will have sufficient funds to cover their living costs for potentially over 30+ years. In the 18 years we have been retired here, the cost of living has escalated, and income doesn’t necessarily keep up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie1234 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, ramot said: Then it could be argued you are buying yourself into the country. Don’t forget that parents want to come here from all over the world not jus UK, not everyone will have sufficient funds to cover their living costs for potentially over 30+ years. In the 18 years we have been retired here, the cost of living has escalated, and income doesn’t necessarily keep up Isn't this the problem? That some can afford to pay for their upkeep / medical and others can't? If that's the case, then why should those who can't afford it be allowed entry? Why should everyone be penalised because visas have been allocated to those who can't afford medical? Note: I'm playing devils advocate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Ollie1234 said: Isn't this the problem? That some can afford to pay for their upkeep / medical and others can't? If that's the case, then why should those who can't afford it be allowed entry? Why should everyone be penalised because visas have been allocated to those who can't afford medical? Note: I'm playing devils advocate. Sorry I don’t like that sort of discrimination, if you pass the balance of family and can afford the visa price, then you have every right to be here. You have access to Medicare as soon as you get PR, so you have medical covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Ollie1234 said: Isn't this the problem? That some can afford to pay for their upkeep / medical and others can't? If that's the case, then why should those who can't afford it be allowed entry? Why should everyone be penalised because visas have been allocated to those who can't afford medical? Note: I'm playing devils advocate. That’s discrimination, not something I agree with. If you can pass the balance of family and afford tp pay for the visa, then you have the right to apply to come and join your family. Parents want to come here from all over the world, and at the moment there is a visa for them to come. I honestly don’t understand why you think everyone is penalised , rather than think every parent has an equal right to want to join their family. irrespective of individual circumstances. It has been said over the years that immigration does check in to this forum occasionally, so the advice has always been, be a bit careful what is posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie1234 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 40 minutes ago, ramot said: Sorry I don’t like that sort of discrimination, if you pass the balance of family and can afford the visa price, then you have every right to be here. You have access to Medicare as soon as you get PR, so you have medical covered. It's not discrimination. But if it is, then we're already discriminating against people because of their age, or their health. Can't have it all ways! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 41 minutes ago, ramot said: Sorry I don’t like that sort of discrimination, if you pass the balance of family and can afford the visa price, then you have every right to be here. You have access to Medicare as soon as you get PR, so you have medical covered. My iPad is playing up, and didn’t show this first reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ollie1234 said: It's not discrimination. But if it is, then we're already discriminating against people because of their age, or their health. Can't have it all ways! I give up, hope your parents get here one day Edited February 23, 2021 by ramot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip1 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Ollie1234 said: Surely then the gov should ensure that parents come with enough money to support themsleves? How much is enough? People that end up in care homes can get through hundreds of thousands of pounds. Add on hip and knee replacements, cancer treatment, type 2 diabetes, dementia care, eye care (blindness/macular degeneration/glaucoma) and on it goes - you thinking force every parent to arrive with half a million pounds and not allow them to every touch it in case it’s needed? It’s not possible and that’s the problem. Once they get PR they get what every other person gets and that can be very expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie1234 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tulip1 said: How much is enough? People that end up in care homes can get through hundreds of thousands of pounds. Add on hip and knee replacements, cancer treatment, type 2 diabetes, dementia care, eye care (blindness/macular degeneration/glaucoma) and on it goes - you thinking force every parent to arrive with half a million pounds and not allow them to every touch it in case it’s needed? It’s not possible and that’s the problem. Once they get PR they get what every other person gets and that can be very expensive. Like I said, I'm playing devils advocate. Money talks, the government love money. Otherwise they wouldn't be letting film stars and tennis playing in while the rest of us can't get out to attend a family funeral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathss56 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) Well here you go! Includes family visas Edited February 23, 2021 by Kathss56 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie1234 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Yay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip1 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ollie1234 said: Like I said, I'm playing devils advocate. Money talks, the government love money. Otherwise they wouldn't be letting film stars and tennis playing in while the rest of us can't get out to attend a family funeral. I’m sure you are but you equally know that they couldn’t force people to hand over hundreds of thousands in case they ever need it. That I assume means it’s back to the Australian tax payer to pick up the tab if needed. I completely understand old people arriving aren’t desirable to the country and struggle to understand why anyone would think differently. Film stars and tennis stars pose zero risk in terms of costing the country a fortune in aged medical care so not a comparison. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Ollie1234 said: Yep, and I could take my business with me. And my super. And savings. This isn't a helpful comment is it? Ultimately if my parents can't get the visa I'll be left with no choice to return back to the UK to look after them when the time comes. I'm more than prepared to do that. I don't think asking for transparency into the process is anything to do with my decision to move to Australia to marry my Australian husband! We're not talking about transparency. I've said, several times, that I'm in complete agreement about the need for honesty in processng times. However, others are commenting about "it's unfair parents are being kept from their grandchildren" or "let's hope they increase the quotas", both of which are completely different issues. And like you, I'm playing devil's advocate about that, and pointing out what the bean counters of government are likely to be thinking about them. 33 minutes ago, Ollie1234 said: Money talks, the government love money. Otherwise they wouldn't be letting film stars and tennis playing in while the rest of us can't get out to attend a family funeral. Exactly. Which is why they won't open up to parents, because they've already done the research that says they cost too much. And I'm not just talking about poor people. Or are you saying your parents will refuse to register for Medicare and will use only private GP's/specialists/pathologists/hospitals for the next ten, twenty or thirty years? Are they planning to insist on paying full international price for medications rather than the PBS price? The great majority of over-65's are on at least one medication and most are on several. As for your super and savings - if you leave the country and take those with you, you also remove the need for the Australian government to look after YOU in your old age. So it's not as great a loss as you think. And while your talents are valuable, there are hundreds of would-be migrants eager to take your place, many of whom won't even try to bring parents with them. No one is irreplaceable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
143mag Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Just stumbled upon this page, after searching for help. We are March end 2016 application for 143 visa. Applicants are offshore, did AOS back in March 2020. Additional docs requested supplied mid 2020. But since then we did not hear back anything. Getting no reply from PVC. Is someone in similar boat? Our docs about to expire. Bit unfair for us to have to pay everything all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathss56 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, 143mag said: Just stumbled upon this page, after searching for help. We are March end 2016 application for 143 visa. Applicants are offshore, did AOS back in March 2020. Additional docs requested supplied mid 2020. But since then we did not hear back anything. Getting no reply from PVC. Is someone in similar boat? Our docs about to expire. Bit unfair for us to have to pay everything all over again. I was mid March 16. I supplied all info by end of Feb 20 beg Mar 20. 2nd vac request Nov 20.paid 2nd vac mid Jan 21 I’m onshore and as we now have the concession of not having to fly out to activate they have extended police check by 3 mths and medical by 6mths. I would email again about 5-6 weeks before checks expire asking if you need new HAP ID for medical. You use the same number I believe but it might get you a reply!! Maybe when they have granted our visas which is supposed to be from 24 Mar they will know how many places are left for this financial year.(they probably already know!) It might move a bit then Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
143mag Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, Kathss56 said: I was mid March 16. I supplied all info by end of Feb 20 beg Mar 20. 2nd vac request Nov 20.paid 2nd vac mid Jan 21 I’m onshore and as we now have the concession of not having to fly out to activate they have extended police check by 3 mths and medical by 6mths. I would email again about 5-6 weeks before checks expire asking if you need new HAP ID for medical. You use the same number I believe but it might get you a reply!! Maybe when they have granted our visas which is supposed to be from 24 Mar they will know how many places are left for this financial year.(they probably already know!) It might move a bit then Good luck! We already emailed couple of times, docs expiring less than two weeks or so. Its very stressful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathss56 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 @143mag yes I know how you feel, we all do. Sadly they probably won’t contact until they are ready to ask for 2nd vac. They will then let you know about new checks etc. Keep holding on! You ARE nearly there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Jane Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, 143mag said: Just stumbled upon this page, after searching for help. We are March end 2016 application for 143 visa. Applicants are offshore, did AOS back in March 2020. Additional docs requested supplied mid 2020. But since then we did not hear back anything. Getting no reply from PVC. Is someone in similar boat? Our docs about to expire. Bit unfair for us to have to pay everything all over again. This is so unfair and shows that they do not process in date order as some applicants in May 2016 have had their visas granted. Is there not a number for the department you can ring to speak to someone, I may be wrong but I’m sure I’ve seen a telephone number posted on this site for home affairs. Have you tried the parents@homeaffairs.gov.au email as well as the PVC team? I really hope you hear from them soon, good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
143mag Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Lady Jane said: This is so unfair and shows that they do not process in date order as some applicants in May 2016 have had their visas granted. Is there not a number for the department you can ring to speak to someone, I may be wrong but I’m sure I’ve seen a telephone number posted on this site for home affairs. Have you tried the parents@homeaffairs.gov.au email as well as the PVC team? I really hope you hear from them soon, good luck. Called 131881, they said we dont give updates on a file processing, and i should email parents@homeaffairs… I emailed couple of times but no reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MELBNGSM Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, 143mag said: Called 131881, they said we dont give updates on a file processing, and i should email parents@homeaffairs… I emailed couple of times but no reply. Yes, that is common. Email replies come. Keep emailing every couple of days (if you are needeing a reply that is) and eventually you will get a reply. I think the volume of emails they get is enormous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
143mag Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, MELBNGSM said: Yes, that is common. Email replies come. Keep emailing every couple of days (if you are needeing a reply that is) and eventually you will get a reply. I think the volume of emails they get is enormous. In last 3 weeks, emailed twice, Should I try again today? What get their attention? I did mention my docs about to expire? Thanks for responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MELBNGSM Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, 143mag said: In last 3 weeks, emailed twice, Should I try again today? What get their attention? I did mention my docs about to expire? Thanks for responses. ***Everything I reply to is my own expereince. Well I say if your DOCS are expering and you think they will ask again then re do them. But I feel like it depends on your case. If you/your parents are overseas then get the DOCS done again. If they are onshore you may get possible extension Health 6 months Police etc also a few months. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
143mag Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 7 hours ago, MELBNGSM said: ***Everything I reply to is my own expereince. Well I say if your DOCS are expering and you think they will ask again then re do them. But I feel like it depends on your case. If you/your parents are overseas then get the DOCS done again. If they are onshore you may get possible extension Health 6 months Police etc also a few months. Hope this helps. We are offshore, and feel like every time our file reaches near finalisation, theres a change in rules which are not in our favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathss56 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 @143mag just keep emailing, they will be busier doing some onshore visa grants mid March so get in quick with the emails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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