224711 Management Consultant - query before applying for skills assessment

[tweedles]

Hello all,

I graduated in BSc Applied Information Technology and am currently working in a big4 firm. I've been here for 6 years of which 4 years I was working internally. I then moved to an advisory based consulting role which is client facing and have been in this role for 2 years.

A couple questions to apply for 189 visa under 224711 Management Consultant:

- Would VETASS consider my degree relevant so I would only need one year employment of post qualification to get the positive skill assessment?

- If VETASS does not consider my degree relevant would I then need 3-5 years of in my current role as a consultant to gain points?

Appreciate any guidance, I am worried to undertake the skills assessment only to gain 0 points due to lack of experience. 

Thank you

[tweedles]

Also just to add, I am a IT consultant and help organisations with IT transformation, which is why I would like to check if VETASS would see my degree as relevant 

[Ausvisitor]

I applied for this ANZSCO code a few months ago and am now waiting the full visa grant.

What I would say is that VetAssess will likely find your degree equivalent to an AUS degree but not highly relevant to the role. I say this as mine was a similar title to yours and that is what they did with mine.

Equally that will mean you need to qualify with actual experience on the job (5 years if I remember correctly)

You also will struggle with the classification of 224711 given what you describe your work to be - as 224711 explicitly makes a ruling that management consultants with a high computing element should apply under the IT consultant role (which is pro-rata). I was okay with this as I haven't done any IT related consultancy in over 10 years.

It is widely thought that 224711 is one of the hardest careers to get a +ve acceptance for; so if you aren't using a migration agent you should seriously consider it. After all you make your living from the concept that you employ an expert to guide you through the difficult things....

Edited July 15, 2019 by Ausvisitor

[Ausvisitor]

3 hours ago, tweedles said:

Also just to add, I am a IT consultant and help organisations with IT transformation, which is why I would like to check if VETASS would see my degree as relevant 

Just to add... this is from VETASSESS

"Assist organisations to achieve greater efficiency and solve organisational problems, and study organisational structures, methods, systems and procedures. ICT Business Analysts are excluded from this unit group. ICT Business Analysts are included in Unit Group 2611 ICT Business and Systems Analysts."

Now speaking as someone who is a director in one of the Big 4 you would be classed as a ICT Analyst, even though we might use the catch-all term management consultant to describe you and your colleagues. (and therefore you should be applying using the 2611 group of codes)

Edited July 15, 2019 by Ausvisitor

[tweedles]

30 minutes ago, Ausvisitor said:

I applied for this ANZSCO code a few months ago and am now waiting the full visa grant.

What I would say is that VetAssess will likely find your degree equivalent to an AUS degree but not highly relevant to the role. I say this as mine was a similar title to yours and that is what they did with mine.

Equally that will mean you need to qualify with actual experience on the job (5 years if I remember correctly)

You also will struggle with the classification of 224711 given what you describe your work to be - as 224711 explicitly makes a ruling that management consultants with a high computing element should apply under the IT consultant role (which is pro-rata). I was okay with this as I haven't done any IT related consultancy in over 10 years.

It is widely thought that 224711 is one of the hardest careers to get a +ve acceptance for; so if you aren't using a migration agent you should seriously consider it. After all you make your living from the concept that you employ an expert to guide you through the difficult things....

Thank you for both your replies, this was exactly the information I was looking to confirm. From reading the skills list I would agree that I would fall into UNIT GROUP 2611 and have 6 years of applied experience based on reading the skill description.

Thank you again for taking time out to reply

 

[Ausvisitor]

1 minute ago, tweedles said:

Thank you for both your replies, this was exactly the information I was looking to confirm. From reading the skills list I would agree that I would fall into UNIT GROUP 2611 and have 6 years of applied experience based on reading the skill description.

Thank you again for taking time out to reply

 

No problem, the VA assessment is about £850 so not something to throw away lightly on making the wrong ANZSCO choice.

[Mukesh Mandhyan]

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[ShirazB]

Hi guys,

Not sure this thread is active or not. I am currently applying for my Skills Assessment as Management Consultant and need help as i am unable to find sufficient material online and agents i contacted are not much aware of specifics related to Management Consultancy.

Education: Bachelors in Actuarial Sciences and Risk Management(Overseas) - Masters in Banking and Finance(Australian)

My core courses revolve around Risk Management - Finance - Financial Management - Economics/Econometrics - Statistics

Currently Working as Commercial Analyst (Not in Big 4) - My roles align greatly with that of Management Consultant. This is an internal role. Our department is Business Solutions Team and works independently providing solutions for internal and external clients.

Can anyone advise if its worth going for Management Consultant
Can provide additional details if required