Not going down to well in UK

[Perthbum 5,725]

IRA victims’ families furious as Shamima Begum to get legal aid despite them denied cash after 1982 Hyde Park bombing

[unzippy 4,117]

Full source, just in case anyone thought it was an original piece of thinking.

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8872085/shamima-begum-ira-victim-legal-aid-outrage/

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1 hour ago, unzippy said:

Full source, just in case anyone thought it was an original piece of thinking.

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8872085/shamima-begum-ira-victim-legal-aid-outrage/

Ob for goodness sake, all this outrage at whatever the great unwashed can't get their heads around, can't we just do without it.

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2 hours ago, Perthbum said:

IRA victims’ families furious as Shamima Begum to get legal aid despite them denied cash after 1982 Hyde Park bombing

And by the way it's "too" not "to"

[Perthbum 5,725]

Outrageous that this piece of lowlife scum who celebrated the Manchester bombings  and celebrated children being blown up saying it was justified gets legal aid when its been cut to the bone and far worthier people are denied , what is wrong with this country that so many are turned down but the likes of evil scum like Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale get it without question. It is being given with taxpayers money so the British people are paying for this evil women to get what she hates....to return to the UK. 

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55 minutes ago, Perthbum said:

Outrageous that this piece of lowlife scum who celebrated the Manchester bombings  and celebrated children being blown up saying it was justified gets legal aid when its been cut to the bone and far worthier people are denied , what is wrong with this country that so many are turned down but the likes of evil scum like Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale get it without question. It is being given with taxpayers money so the British people are paying for this evil women to get what she hates....to return to the UK. 

It is called abiding by the law, not just exercising the ideas of a ignorant vengeful society hell bent on retribution. We did away with that in the 17th century when we outlawed witch hunts.

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1 hour ago, Perthbum said:

Outrageous that this piece of lowlife scum who celebrated the Manchester bombings  and celebrated children being blown up saying it was justified gets legal aid when its been cut to the bone and far worthier people are denied , what is wrong with this country that so many are turned down but the likes of evil scum like Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale get it without question. It is being given with taxpayers money so the British people are paying for this evil women to get what she hates....to return to the UK. 

She actually stitched suicide bombers into their vests!! ... Vile creature!!

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4 hours ago, unzippy said:

Full source, just in case anyone thought it was an original piece of thinking.

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8872085/shamima-begum-ira-victim-legal-aid-outrage/

Talk about false equivalence.

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40 minutes ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

It is called abiding by the law, not just exercising the ideas of a ignorant vengeful society hell bent on retribution. We did away with that in the 17th century when we outlawed witch hunts.

The very people who proclaim the moral high ground are the first to call for denial of fair legal process.  If only they were smart enough to understand irony they could laugh at themselves.

[Perthbum 5,725]

47 minutes ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

It is called abiding by the law, not just exercising the ideas of a ignorant vengeful society hell bent on retribution. We did away with that in the 17th century when we outlawed witch hunts.

she supports 17th century medieval beheadings and the blowing to bits of children, if you had a child who was killed on they day would you be supporting her safe return to the UK ?

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10 minutes ago, Gbye grey sky said:

The very people who proclaim the moral high ground are the first to call for denial of fair legal process.  If only they were smart enough to understand irony they could laugh at themselves.

One problem legal aid is not offered to far more deserving cases. Terrorists who murder men women and children are offered it without question, just like this piece of lowlife scum has.

Edited April 16, 2019 by Perthbum

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16 minutes ago, Perthbum said:

One problem legal aid is not offered to far more deserving cases. Terrorists who murder men women and children are offered it without question, just like this piece of lowlife scum has.

Maybe so, but the Sun article was highlighting the denial of legal aid for a civil action for damages rather than a criminal prosecution.

Should legal aid fund civil actions in your view?

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22 minutes ago, Gbye grey sky said:

Maybe so, but the Sun article was highlighting the denial of legal aid for a civil action for damages rather than a criminal prosecution.

Should legal aid fund civil actions in your view?

Anything to wind the natives up

It's worked since Jesus's time.

 

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31 minutes ago, Perthbum said:

One problem legal aid is not offered to far more deserving cases. Terrorists who murder men women and children are offered it without question, just like this piece of lowlife scum has.

Who decides what is and isn't deserving of legal aid and fair legal representation?

If it is judged only by whether we agree with someone's views or actions or whether we like them as a person, our laws, values and legal system are broken. 

My view would be that they have already defeated us if we allow their abhorrent views and actions to undermine our long standing respected and fair legal processes. The whole point of the system is that it applies to everyone identically, regardless of political or religious views and regardless of actions, no matter how horrific we consider them to be.

Last I heard legal aid were considering the parents application and had not yet made a decision as to whether the family met their criteria.

 

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I guess if legal aid was available freely for all those needing it there would be no problem. I think people object to this particular case because others who, on the surface, seem more deserving, are missing out.

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30 minutes ago, starlight7 said:

I guess if legal aid was available freely for all those needing it there would be no problem. I think people object to this particular case because others who, on the surface, seem more deserving, are missing out.

Moe deserving than someone who celebrated the death of children in MANCHESTER said the rape of enslaved women was justified, has no regrets about joining ISIS, THEN YES.

[Rallyman 4,147]

2 hours ago, starlight7 said:

I guess if legal aid was available freely for all those needing it there would be no problem. I think people object to this particular case because others who, on the surface, seem more deserving, are missing out.

Also at this point in time she is not a uk citizen 

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5 hours ago, starlight7 said:

I guess if legal aid was available freely for all those needing it there would be no problem. I think people object to this particular case because others who, on the surface, seem more deserving, are missing out.

"On the surface"..............if they miss out, then there is likely more "below the surface" as to why they do so. If you look at the requirements for legal aid, it seems pretty clear (to me) why some (my words) "deservists" are refused it