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[Phoenix16 763]

Just feeling so bloody angry and stressed..

Edited April 13, 2019 by Phoenix16

[BacktoDemocracy 6,213]

24 minutes ago, Phoenix16 said:

Just feeling so bloody angry and stressed..

What has wound you up so.

[simmo 22,091]

1 minute ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

What has wound you up so.

i suspect he/she would like it to remain private.

[Phoenix16 763]

8 minutes ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

What has wound you up so.

 Oh I was just so upset about my daughters school, a pretty expensive school, we are just the mere mortals making sacrifices to give her great opportunities but at the moment it’s seems that the Uber rich families rule the roost, just was a big rant and wondering whether we really are doing the right thing by her but I bottled it and deleted the post because I felt I revealed too much...

[ali 16,507]

I think it's a dilemma/balancing act when it comes to sending children to elite schools as you will always come up against people with money and may find difficulties fitting in.  

My children both went to public school, my daughter got a great ATAR and was able to study at UWA - she did comment in the first few weeks that she smiled to herself being with so many privately educated people and the fact that their parents had paid thousands and yet they'd all ended up at the same place … at the end of the day we can only do what we think is best for our children.

[rammygirl 2,255]

I honestly think that people who succeed or are elevated in life just because of privilege not on any merit are fooling nobody. I see them and they are shallow. Not all of them as some have genuine ability. Those with ability and good support at home will do just as well and be more rounded people. 

My kids went to a local school, rather than a private one as I felt they needed to mix with a bigger range of people. Both have not been disadvantaged.  Although sometimes I am glad they did it in the UK and not Adelaide as the old school network is still  strong here!  Unfortunately not an equal opportunity city!  

I have no time for people who judge on wealth and appearance and possessions my real friends know me for who I am.

[simmo 22,091]

5 hours ago, Phoenix16 said:

Please delete - posted in error

Oh well.  Looks like you are not allowed to have it deleted. 

[BacktoDemocracy 6,213]

5 hours ago, Phoenix16 said:

 Oh I was just so upset about my daughters school, a pretty expensive school, we are just the mere mortals making sacrifices to give her great opportunities but at the moment it’s seems that the Uber rich families rule the roost, just was a big rant and wondering whether we really are doing the right thing by her but I bottled it and deleted the post because I felt I revealed too much...

It is a balancing act and I do not know how anyone makes decisions about these things, sticking with principles can have repercussions because the advantages of the "right" school and knowing the right people is so powerful, especially here in the UK and also, funnily enough, in Australia.

My inlaws got round it by sending their daughters to a top public school for their A levels on the basis that was the crucial entry to uni and gave them an entrée to the "right" people. 

Not my choice but who can say when opportunities are so much about who you know.

Sympathise about running up against money and power, but that is the problem with buying a product there is always someone who can afford the Rolls and the yacht and the salesman homes in on them

[Perthbum 5,725]

If a child is going to make it they will no matter what school they go to private or state. Many children whose parents cannot afford to send them private who are far smarter and who will go on to achieve as much as if they had gone private. 

[Perthbum 5,725]

1 hour ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

It is a balancing act and I do not know how anyone makes decisions about these things, sticking with principles can have repercussions because the advantages of the "right" school and knowing the right people is so powerful, especially here in the UK and also, funnily enough, in Australia.

My inlaws got round it by sending their daughters to a top public school for their A levels on the basis that was the crucial entry to uni and gave them an entrée to the "right" people. 

Not my choice but who can say when opportunities are so much about who you know.

Sympathise about running up against money and power, but that is the problem with buying a product there is always someone who can afford the Rolls and the yacht and the salesman homes in on them

Many  UNIs will accept students  even without good grades,  they are so desperate for the money.

 

[Toots 12,611]

9 hours ago, ali said:

I think it's a dilemma/balancing act when it comes to sending children to elite schools as you will always come up against people with money and may find difficulties fitting in.  

My children both went to public school, my daughter got a great ATAR and was able to study at UWA - she did comment in the first few weeks that she smiled to herself being with so many privately educated people and the fact that their parents had paid thousands and yet they'd all ended up at the same place … at the end of the day we can only do what we think is best for our children.

My two sons said the same thing when they started at Sydney uni.  They did all their schooling at public not private schools.

[ali 16,507]

7 hours ago, simmo said:

Oh well.  Looks like you are not allowed to have it deleted. 

The OP has been able to edit their post and it no longer resembles their original post/thoughts etc.   The responses are to their 2nd response.

[Phoenix16 763]

Some lovely responses, some thought provoking responses, can not argue with any of them.  We didn’t make a deliberate choice to send daughter to the school she is at, it was really very much circumstances at the time but now she is very very settled and I don’t want to upset that equilibrium.  She was at a lovely local public school that I loved but there were quite a few kids in the class with special needs which I was completely ok with until she got whacked quite a few times and started to display distructive behaviours herself, I was called into school so many times and was even advised she see the school psychologist, at this point I was like NO, this has to change. It was 2 days before the end of term for pre primary, I rang the school she is now at, was offered a place and told the school on the last day she would not bebh coming back.  I advised the new school of all of the issues and the recommendation to see the school Psychologist, they undertook to to have their psychologist assess her and monitored her ongoing, she has simply thrived, they could not find a single issue with her and regularly feed back to me what a thoughtful, kind and lovely girl she is.  That is all I wanted, I hope she will academically thrive in her environment, she’s doing pretty well but Is still by no means as academically inclined and some of them, however, that was never my motive for sending her there, she is simply now a well adjusted girl who is loving and thriving in her environment and working hard, the school pushes and encourages excellence but in a nurturing way, she will achieve what she is capable of in a supportive nurting  environment but she will become what she wants to be from her own inner self and aspirations not from being forced. I just wanted her to have the freeedom to be herself, it was a though call at the school she was at before despite the fact the school did everything they could but she was in a class of 30 with many different needs and little support to cope with this, she’s now in a class of 18 and doing amazing for herself.  I did rant off because I do get pissed of with the Uber wealthy and competitive mums, (yes wealthy and competitive seems to be a package), I just need to learn to rise above it, and it can be a draw back for my daughter constantly being told by kids of said mothers  how rich and amazing they are, but, she’s also got loads of normal friends and perhaps it bothers me more than her!!!!! 

[Phoenix16 763]

On 14/04/2019 at 00:58, simmo said:

Oh well.  Looks like you are not allowed to have it deleted. 

Should have just kept my mouth shut but when the lovely @BacktoDemocracy enquired as to my stress and anger I just couldn’t help myself!!! .....but hey, I thought despite everything we are all a supportive family on here and so what the heck xxxxx

[starlight7 4,199]

Guess wherever you are there are a few a.hs- just avoid them, there are plenty of nice people around as well. The private schools don't have the monopoly on them, either.  I remember some absolutely horrid people at the local state school, too. Especially nasty about our youngest who won a scholarship to one of the 'posh ' schools. I just said. 'jealousy is a curse'.

[BacktoDemocracy 6,213]

1 hour ago, Phoenix16 said:

Some lovely responses, some thought provoking responses, can not argue with any of them.  We didn’t make a deliberate choice to send daughter to the school she is at, it was really very much circumstances at the time but now she is very very settled and I don’t want to upset that equilibrium.  She was at a lovely local public school that I loved but there were quite a few kids in the class with special needs which I was completely ok with until she got whacked quite a few times and started to display distructive behaviours herself, I was called into school so many times and was even advised she see the school psychologist, at this point I was like NO, this has to change. It was 2 days before the end of term for pre primary, I rang the school she is now at, was offered a place and told the school on the last day she would not bebh coming back.  I advised the new school of all of the issues and the recommendation to see the school Psychologist, they undertook to to have their psychologist assess her and monitored her ongoing, she has simply thrived, they could not find a single issue with her and regularly feed back to me what a thoughtful, kind and lovely girl she is.  That is all I wanted, I hope she will academically thrive in her environment, she’s doing pretty well but Is still by no means as academically inclined and some of them, however, that was never my motive for sending her there, she is simply now a well adjusted girl who is loving and thriving in her environment and working hard, the school pushes and encourages excellence but in a nurturing way, she will achieve what she is capable of in a supportive nurting  environment but she will become what she wants to be from her own inner self and aspirations not from being forced. I just wanted her to have the freeedom to be herself, it was a though call at the school she was at before despite the fact the school did everything they could but she was in a class of 30 with many different needs and little support to cope with this, she’s now in a class of 18 and doing amazing for herself.  I did rant off because I do get pissed of with the Uber wealthy and competitive mums, (yes wealthy and competitive seems to be a package), I just need to learn to rise above it, and it can be a draw back for my daughter constantly being told by kids of said mothers  how rich and amazing they are, but, she’s also got loads of normal friends and perhaps it bothers me more than her!!!!! 

Yep, it would be nice to go with ones principles but the situation is being engineered now to create dual systems by changing the public system into a residual system by starving it of funds which forces out those who can just about afford to get better life chances for their children, and then you run up against those who are intent upon buying privilegee.

[BacktoDemocracy 6,213]

4 hours ago, Phoenix16 said:

Should have just kept my mouth shut but when the lovely @BacktoDemocracy enquired as to my stress and anger I just couldn’t help myself!!! .....but hey, I thought despite everything we are all a supportive family on here and so what the heck xxxxx

That is the best compliment I've had this year. Bloody hell, lets face it, this millennium. .