How is Megan doing so far?

[InnerVoice 1,231]

3 hours ago, Parley said:

Interesting.

https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/prince-harry-called-in-divorce-lawyers-months-ago/video/18dc60c9c5fa7a21aaeeef81aae2cbd9

 

3 hours ago, Toots said:

I don't believe it.

If it's on Sky news, then I wouldn't - although it's lasted longer than I thought it would, to be honest.

[HappyHeart 14,366]

1 hour ago, InnerVoice said:

 

If it's on Sky news, then I wouldn't - although it's lasted longer than I thought it would, to be honest.

Imagine how damaging conjecture like that is to a relationship. I’ll be sad if it’s true. The press and the commentators should butt out of peoples marriages. 

[Rallyman 4,099]

2 hours ago, HappyHeart said:

Imagine how damaging conjecture like that is to a relationship. I’ll be sad if it’s true. The press and the commentators should butt out of peoples marriages. 

Maybe they should practice what they preach and not air the washing in public and then complain about media attention 

[Skani 5,407]

16 hours ago, Bobj said:

When I read that Meggsie was contemplating separation. My immediate thoughts were that she had got all that was useful from bloodnut.
Cheers, Bobj.

Yes.  I don't necessarily believe the current rumours but I am expecting it to happen at some stage when  she feels that he is no longer useful to her personal ambitions.  Following her life story it becomes obvious that is her modus operandi with all those close to her - and classic narcissism. 

[Parley 7,908]

21 hours ago, HappyHeart said:

Imagine how damaging conjecture like that is to a relationship. I’ll be sad if it’s true. The press and the commentators should butt out of peoples marriages. 

Isn't it only damaging if it is true?

If it is total BS then they can laugh it off or sue the media outlet as they seem to be inclined to do lately.

[HappyHeart 14,366]

37 minutes ago, Parley said:

Isn't it only damaging if it is true?

If it is total BS then they can laugh it off or sue the media outlet as they seem to be inclined to do lately.

Yes that's partially true but put yourself in their shoes? I wouldn't want to devote vast amounts of time to proving others wrong and setting the record straight. For whatever reasons they felt it necessary. I try not to judge as I can see it from all angles. Regardless of your opinions it's an unpleasant situation and damaging to psychological wellbeing either way. It's just not nice. Not kind. Not always easy to laugh off when it's relentless and let's face it, it's relentless. She steps back, sensibly chooses not to come to the UK for the coronation and she's cast as a villain. She would have been a villain if she came and now the rumours mill is that all is not well within the marriage and she's not supportive. I find it toxic to say the least. Yes, I agree for their own sakes at least  they should now step back and quietly get on with things....if at all possible and they are allowed to. Damned if they do or don't 

[InnerVoice 1,231]

24 minutes ago, HappyHeart said:

Yes that's partially true but put yourself in their shoes? I wouldn't want to devote vast amounts of time to proving others wrong and setting the record straight. For whatever reasons they felt it necessary. I try not to judge as I can see it from all angles. Regardless of your opinions it's an unpleasant situation and damaging to psychological wellbeing either way. It's just not nice. Not kind. Not always easy to laugh off when it's relentless and let's face it, it's relentless. She steps back, sensibly chooses not to come to the UK for the coronation and she's cast as a villain. She would have been a villain if she came and now the rumours mill is that all is not well within the marriage and she's not supportive. I find it toxic to say the least. Yes, I agree for their own sakes at least they should now step back and quietly get on with things....if at all possible and they are allowed to. Damned if they do or don't 

They could have done that 3 years ago when they stepped down from their royal duties, and maintained some dignity. Instead they've chosen to ride a rollercoaster of publicity for considerable financial gain. We shouldn't speculate as to what they're like behind close doors, but it's unfair to criticize people for forming an opinion based on how they've portrayed themselves in public - because right from the outset, that hasn't been good.

[HappyHeart 14,366]

35 minutes ago, InnerVoice said:

They could have done that 3 years ago when they stepped down from their royal duties, and maintained some dignity. Instead they've chosen to ride a rollercoaster of publicity for considerable financial gain. We shouldn't speculate as to what they're like behind close doors, but it's unfair to criticize people for forming an opinion based on how they've portrayed themselves in public - because right from the outset, that hasn't been good.

I disagree that they've portrayed themselves badly. Yes there have been questionable decisions made...but...I can understand, if not agree with their rationale. The 'good' work they've done goes unreported. Not as interesting. Let's not forget both Harry's Mother AND Father got the ball rolling with the televised airing of dirty linen. People have short memories. 

[Parley 7,908]

I wonder what happens to their mega Netflix and Spotify deals if they divorce.

[InnerVoice 1,231]

13 hours ago, HappyHeart said:

I disagree that they've portrayed themselves badly. Yes there have been questionable decisions made...but...I can understand, if not agree with their rationale. The 'good' work they've done goes unreported. Not as interesting. Let's not forget both Harry's Mother AND Father got the ball rolling with the televised airing of dirty linen. People have short memories. 

Harry's done some great work, and Megan has her projects too. We've all heard of the Invictus games, just as we've heard of the Duke of Edinburgh awards, and Princess Anne's charity work. The media will report on their good works when there isn't anything juicy going down, but the issue is H&M think they can have a selective relationship with the media and it doesn't work like that. Given what happened to his mum, Harry of all people should know that they've been playing with fire and it's only a matter of time before they get burnt.

Edited May 31 by InnerVoice

[HappyHeart 14,366]

11 minutes ago, InnerVoice said:

Harry's done some great work, and Megan has her projects too. We've all heard of the Invictus games, just as we've heard of the Duke of Edinburgh awards, and Princess Anne's charity work. The media will report on their good works when there isn't anything juicy going down, but the issue is H&M think they can have a selective relationship with the media and it doesn't work like that. Given what happened to his mum, Harry of all people should know that they've been playing with fire and it's only a matter of time before they get burnt.

Maybe he thinks by choosing his interviewers he'll get to give his own story? I think that's the idea. A counter narrative. Arguing your own perspective and havi g it universally acceoted is usually difficult as evidenced on this forum!

[Toots 12,284]

OK I have finished reading 'Spare'.  I had a few eye rolling moments whilst reading it but on the whole it is his story to tell.  He was most surprised that Pa had cut off his "wages" and so he and Meghan have had to work giving interviews etc.  I could only think that they had millions between them due to inheritances and they didn't need to buy such a huge mansion.  They could have managed to live within their means.  The saddest bits were his constant references to his dead mother and how he compares his wife favourably to her.  I don't think he will ever get over his mother's loss no matter how much therapy he gets. 

There were bitchy references toward his father and brother which were really unnecessary.  

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10 minutes ago, Toots said:

.  He was most surprised that Pa had cut off his "wages" and so he and Meghan have had to work giving interviews etc. 

It's interesting to read the stories about how much they're worth.  The most conservative estimate is that Harry was "only" worth $10 million and Meghan about $5 million when they married.  No wonder they had to go out to work.  

He got a $20 million advance on the book, so perhaps they can stop doing interviews now? 

 

 

[HappyHeart 14,366]

6 hours ago, Toots said:

OK I have finished reading 'Spare'.  I had a few eye rolling moments whilst reading it but on the whole it is his story to tell.  He was most surprised that Pa had cut off his "wages" and so he and Meghan have had to work giving interviews etc.  I could only think that they had millions between them due to inheritances and they didn't need to buy such a huge mansion.  They could have managed to live within their means.  The saddest bits were his constant references to his dead mother and how he compares his wife favourably to her.  I don't think he will ever get over his mother's loss no matter how much therapy he gets. 

There were bitchy references toward his father and brother which were really unnecessary.  

Unresolved childhood trauma. It plays out in a lot of people and he is not immune. Thanks for your overview. I must get a copy

[Toots 12,284]

1 hour ago, HappyHeart said:

Unresolved childhood trauma. It plays out in a lot of people and he is not immune. Thanks for your overview. I must get a copy

I borrowed the book from a friend.  It's doing the rounds.  Your local library will have a copy.

[Skani 5,407]

8 hours ago, Toots said:

  I don't think he will ever get over his mother's loss no matter how much therapy he gets. 

There were bitchy references toward his father and brother which were really unnecessary.  

Especially as his brother lost his mother at the same time:  it would be nice if he showed   some compassion  to him for that reason alone.

[InnerVoice 1,231]

8 hours ago, HappyHeart said:

Maybe he thinks by choosing his interviewers he'll get to give his own story? I think that's the idea. A counter narrative. Arguing your own perspective and having it universally accepted is usually difficult as evidenced on this forum!

In which case he'd be rather naive, or poorly advised. 20 years ago it was possible to control the narrative if you had sufficient influence due to the media being limited to newspapers, TV and a few online sources, but not now. People find a source of information that's sympathetic to their preconceptions, adopt it, and then start quoting it as gospel.

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15 hours ago, Skani said:

Especially as his brother lost his mother at the same time:  it would be nice if he showed   some compassion  to him for that reason alone.

Maybe he does.  In private.

[Skani 5,407]

1 hour ago, unzippy said:

Maybe he does.  In private.

That would demonstrate even more complex psychological disturbance given his scathing comments about William (including wife and children) in public.  Although, according to Harry, private contact evaporated after the Winfrey interview (surprise, surprise).

[Ken 1,739]

The latest story is that Harry could be thrown out of the US due to the drug taking he's admitted to in his book. One important point is what be put in his visa application. There's an attempt being made to get that application released under the freedom of information act, since if he can be shown to have lied on the application his visa is invalid.

[HappyHeart 14,366]

29 minutes ago, Ken said:

The latest story is that Harry could be thrown out of the US due to the drug taking he's admitted to in his book. One important point is what be put in his visa application. There's an attempt being made to get that application released under the freedom of information act, since if he can be shown to have lied on the application his visa is invalid.

Jeez. Now that’s a witch hunt. 

[simmo 21,932]

6 minutes ago, HappyHeart said:

Jeez. Now that’s a witch hunt. 

So you can pick and choose?

[Tulip1 4,903]

48 minutes ago, HappyHeart said:

Jeez. Now that’s a witch hunt. 

If he was honest on his visa application then he has nothing to worry about.  Witch hunt or not, it should cause him no concern or worry,  unless he was dishonest when signing what is a legal declaration.  Same as for anyone, if you’re going to lie you have to be good at it and not drop yourself in it.  I remember a friend of mines mum used to say to her when caught out on something….be sure your sins will find you out.  I doubt they will revoke his visa regardless but it will show him in very poor character if true. 

Edited June 1 by Tulip1

[Parley 7,908]

1 hour ago, HappyHeart said:

Jeez. Now that’s a witch hunt. 

How is applying the law a witch hunt?

[Toots 12,284]

19 minutes ago, Tulip1 said:

If he was honest on his visa application then he has nothing to worry about.  Witch hunt or not, it should cause him no concern or worry,  unless he was dishonest when signing what is a legal declaration.  Same as for anyone, if you’re going to lie you have to be good at it and not drop yourself in it.  I remember a friend of mines mum used to say to her when caught out on something….be sure your sins will find you out.  I doubt they will revoke his visa regardless but it will show him in very poor character if true. 

I also don't think he has anything to worry about either.  He has no drug convictions and if he didn't lie he's fine.