How is Megan doing so far?

[Bobj 10,329]

20 hours ago, InnerVoice said:

It's been discussed at great length in our mostly-female staffroom and the consensus of opinion is that Harry has been manipulated by Megan to some extent, so does that make all them misogynists too? According to the lady sat next to me, he needs to grow a pair.

In my days of old, it was the three B’s; Balls Baffle Brains.

Cheers, Bobj.

[InnerVoice 1,265]

21 hours ago, Parley said:

Is it still misogyny if it is true and the woman is actually a controlling manipulative so and so?

 

20 hours ago, HappyHeart said:

Obviously not. The 2 are not mutually exclusive concepts. We must be more thoughtful in casting wild aspersions based on the way somebody makes us feel though and the narrative we are fed. It’s very, very harmful.

Well done for acknowledging that because it's pointless having a debate with someone who implies that criticism equals discrimination in one form or another. If you don't like seeing drunken Aboriginals fighting in the park and threatening passers by, that doesn't make you a racist. If you don't like seeing men dressed up as woman in a sexualized manner, that does make you transphobic. If you criticize a person for exploiting someone else, who just happens to be a different gender, that doesn't make you sexist. Negatively stereotyping an individual based on their opinion about one specific issue is just as harmful as casting wild aspersions without any facts.

Taking of facts... Harry has stepped down from his royal duties, moved to the USA, produced a documentary, and written book containing hurtful and damaging allegations about close members of his family. Would he have done any of those things if he'd never met Megan Markle?

I rest my case.

[simmo 21,941]

18 hours ago, InnerVoice said:

Misogyny - dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.

Misandry - dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men.

Both are equally damaging, although most are unfamiliar with the second term.

So right. 

To be a white middle aged man right now is being at the bottom of the pile 

[tea4too 3,114]

Did he need to meet Meghan to do any of that? Not really. Did he need to meet someone he loved and respected enough to gamble his position and place in the family? Very possibly, in which case he could have stepped back, produced a documentary, wrote a book and moved anywhere in the world with his wife, be that Meghan or whoever he chose to marry. 

But we live in a fast news society where celebrity sells and we are regularly provided with heroes and villains because those are the stories make the most money, especially when sprinkled with glamour and wealth. Not so long ago it was Diana and Camilla, now it's Kate and Meghan. Whether we can trust the constant drip of negative headlines and spin is debatable, if only because it seems that the narrative can turn on the spin of a coin. T x

 

 

 

[Ken 1,739]

4 hours ago, InnerVoice said:

Would he have done any of those things if he'd never met Megan Markle?

No, it Harry had never met Megan he would have remained the same well adjusted young man he always was.

[InnerVoice 1,265]

2 minutes ago, Ken said:

No, it Harry had never met Megan he would have remained the same well adjusted young man he always was.

Ah, but remember that wasn't his fault. It was all Will and Kate's idea - didn't you read the book?

[HappyHeart 14,374]

5 hours ago, simmo said:

So right. 

To be a white middle aged man right now is being at the bottom of the pile 

 

[InnerVoice 1,265]

5 hours ago, simmo said:

So right. 

To be a white middle aged man right now is being at the bottom of the pile 

Fortunately our antiquated (yet accurate) view of the world will soon be classed as disability, which should get us back up the ladder.

[simmo 21,941]

4 minutes ago, InnerVoice said:

Fortunately our antiquated (yet accurate) view of the world will soon be classed as disability, which should get us back up the ladder.

I'm already an ethnic minority in London so should play on that more.

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2 hours ago, InnerVoice said:

Ah, but remember that wasn't his fault. It was all Will and Kate's idea - didn't you read the book?

i haven't reached that bit yet.

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9 minutes ago, Toots said:

i haven't reached that bit yet.

Why on earth would you read that trash?

Really it is a complete fraud anyway. He didn't write the book himself as most people think. He just gives a series of interviews to a professional writer who goes away and writes the book.

Harry has probably barely read any books let alone be able to write one.

[Toots 12,302]

19 minutes ago, Parley said:

Why on earth would you read that trash?

Really it is a complete fraud anyway. He didn't write the book himself as most people think. He just gives a series of interviews to a professional writer who goes away and writes the book.

Harry has probably barely read any books let alone be able to write one.

I'm quite enjoying it.  I've only read up to when he's 17 years old so far.  Life at his first boarding school then at Eton. Blimey all that murdering grouse, rabbits and deer at Sandringham and Balmoral when he was a young boy.  Of course he does get his little digs in about how his bedroom at Balmoral was half the size of Wills' and I expect the digs will get worse the more I read.  

[InnerVoice 1,265]

50 minutes ago, Parley said:

Why on earth would you read that trash?

I wouldn't go out of my way to read it either, but hopefully @Tootswill recount the juiciest bits if we ask nicely.

[Skani 5,408]

10 hours ago, Toots said:

I'm quite enjoying it.  I've only read up to when he's 17 years old so far.  Life at his first boarding school then at Eton.

If I'd attempted  that book I wouldn't have been able to go past the bit at Ludgrove School where he makes sexist and disparaging comments - which he thought were funny - about the disabled matron .  The fact that he let that remain in the book reveals him to be not just immature  but  plain nasty.   And he has the gall to lecture other people about mental health and "being kind".  The hypocrisy of those two is unbelievable.

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2 hours ago, Skani said:

If I'd attempted  that book I wouldn't have been able to go past the bit at Ludgrove School where he makes sexist and disparaging comments - which he thought were funny - about the disabled matron .  The fact that he let that remain in the book reveals him to be not just immature  but  plain nasty.   And he has the gall to lecture other people about mental health and "being kind".  The hypocrisy of those two is unbelievable.

Many children are nasty little devils when it comes to what Harry describes in the book about the matron.  I am surprised he brought it up though.  You would have thought he would have been far too ashamed to do that.  Also the paragraph about losing his virginity.  Bet he got a shock when the woman came forward in the media to state it was her and she wasn't a much older woman at all.

I've done all my outside and inside chores ............   it's a horrible wet and windy day again so it's feet up and more of Harry. 

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6 minutes ago, Toots said:

Many children are nasty little devils when it comes to what Harry describes in the book about the matron.  I am surprised he brought it up though.  You would have thought he would have been far too ashamed to do that. 

Yes, you can understand that he might not have had the maturity at 11 to understand how cruel that might be....but at 38?   The poor woman may still be alive too - I wonder if he thought - or cared - about that.

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1 hour ago, Skani said:

Yes, you can understand that he might not have had the maturity at 11 to understand how cruel that might be....but at 38?   The poor woman may still be alive too - I wonder if he thought - or cared - about that.

Well obviously he doesn't care as surely he wouldn't have mentioned it if he did.

[Skani 5,408]

1 hour ago, Toots said:

Well obviously he doesn't care as surely he wouldn't have mentioned it if he did.

Yes, apparently mental health only matters when it's his and hers - not anyone else's.  

[Parley 7,918]

He has probably been told that to sell books he needs to be controversial.

People won't buy a sanitised boring book.

[simmo 21,941]

Just saw a clip from sky news au saying that Harry is consulting divorce lawyers. Very sad if true.

[Toots 12,302]

13 hours ago, simmo said:

Just saw a clip from sky news au saying that Harry is consulting divorce lawyers. Very sad if true.

I don't believe that bit of news.   If it is true something really drastic must have happened in the relationship because not so long ago at all he worshipped the ground she walked on.

[Parley 7,918]

14 hours ago, simmo said:

Just saw a clip from sky news au saying that Harry is consulting divorce lawyers. Very sad if true.

Interesting.

https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/prince-harry-called-in-divorce-lawyers-months-ago/video/18dc60c9c5fa7a21aaeeef81aae2cbd9

[Toots 12,302]

13 minutes ago, Parley said:

Interesting.

https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/prince-harry-called-in-divorce-lawyers-months-ago/video/18dc60c9c5fa7a21aaeeef81aae2cbd9

I don't believe it.

[simmo 21,941]

47 minutes ago, Parley said:

Interesting.

https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/prince-harry-called-in-divorce-lawyers-months-ago/video/18dc60c9c5fa7a21aaeeef81aae2cbd9

So he's been staying in a hotel.

 

[Bobj 10,329]

3 hours ago, Toots said:

I don't believe that bit of news.   If it is true something really drastic must have happened in the relationship because not so long ago at all he worshipped the ground she walked on.

When I read that Meggsie was contemplating separation. My immediate thoughts were that she had got all that was useful from bloodnut.
Cheers, Bobj.