Janice Pullen Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I have a 410 visa. This visa is discontinued. I have contacted the government re what is happening to us! They say no decision has been made although a decision has been made to cancel the 410! is there anyone in this position and knows what is happening? Derick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Janice Pullen said: I have a 410 visa. This visa is discontinued. I have contacted the government re what is happening to us! They say no decision has been made although a decision has been made to cancel the 410! is there anyone in this position and knows what is happening? Derick When you say you contacted the government was there a particular reason why you did this and who exactly did you speak to? Did you contact the department that deals with our visa or just the general enquiries phone line.There are several of us on this visa locally and no one has heard that anything has changed, but no one has renewed recently. Are you due to renew? We all know that the visa ended in 2005 to new applicants, but up to now there has been no problem for those of us alreadyon this visa just renewing every 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janice Pullen Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 I spoke to visa section. They could not advise what I should do and said I should speak to an immigration specialist. This I did and they were unable to help at this time as they are awaiting "guidance " from government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I’m sorry I’m still really confused as to what you are really asking? Is your 410 visa up for renewal? if so then just renew as usual, or have you heard Of some official statement issued that has caused you concern? No one that I know on the 410 visa in our group that meet regularly has heard anything to worry about so if you know something please pass it on. We met with Peter Dutton 2 years ago to explore the possibility of gaining PR and at that time he stated that the government had no intention of any changes to the 410, there were only about 3,500 of us in the country then and probably less now, as we are all totally self funded so cost the country nothing. Ok this was 2 years ago, but don’t see what has changed. Again I ask you what has made you concerned? because if you know something then all of us on the 410 visa need to be told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janice Pullen Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 We contacted the visa department on a personal matter and was informed they were looking at changes to the 410 visa. They could not confirm that the 410 visa will be renewed and advised us to contact an immigration specialist which we did.. At this time the immigration specialist cannot give us any advice as they are also waiting for government information . Hence our concern. We are also wondering if they will reintroduce the Reciprocal Medicare Card . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Janice Pullen said: I have a 410 visa. This visa is discontinued. I have contacted the government re what is happening to us! They say no decision has been made although a decision has been made to cancel the 410! The 410 visa was cancelled a long time ago. HOWEVER, if you already hold a 410 visa, that doesn't affect you AT ALL. The cancellation was not retrospective. Sometimes the people who man the phones in the visa department have no idea what they're talking about! However, if they are now saying there may be changes for existing 410 visa holders, that's new information. They are planning to make a big reduction in the number of visas, so who knows? But it would be rough if they suddenly decided that people who've been allowed to renew for years, suddenly can't. If your immigration specialist has heard a whisper, then probably @wrussell or @Raul Senise would have heard as well? Edited February 15, 2019 by Marisawright 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janice Pullen Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 Many thanks, will let you know if we hear anything further if we have an email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Marisawright said: The 410 visa was cancelled a long time ago. HOWEVER, if you already hold a 410 visa, that doesn't affect you AT ALL. The cancellation was not retrospective. Sometimes the people who man the phones in the visa department have no idea what they're talking about! However, if they are now saying there may be changes for existing 410 visa holders, that's new information. They are planning to make a big reduction in the number of visas, so who knows? But it would be rough if they suddenly decided that people who've been allowed to renew for years, suddenly can't. If your immigration specialist has heard a whisper, then probably @wrussell or @Raul Senise would have heard as well? There were changes announced in the budget last June for 410/405 visa holders, but the changes had nothing to do with the possibility of canceling these visas. It was announced that there would be a new pathway visa attached to the 143 parent visa, to apply for PR. Same cost but with Slightly different conditions, you dont need to have children in Oz, you don’t need a sponsor, dont have to lodge any money with Centrelink, would be eligible immediately to support with no 10 year wait as the regular 143 parent visa. There will be 125 visas available this year up to June apparently. A letter was sent to all 410/405 visa holders outlining all this, and if interested you could apply from about the 18th ? November 2018 Only a couple of people I know have had to make a change to their 410 visa with the sad death of their husband, one as recently as Dec. and neither had a problem changing their status to now be the main holder. I will check but I think 410 visa renewals are dealt with in Hobart now rather than Perth, I will check and let you know in case you didn’t contact the right department. As Marissa says the main call centre honestly know very little and often give the wrong advice. The 410 was cancelled for new applicants in 2005, but the cancellation didn’t affect existing visa holders, so you must have renewed at least once without a problem, Again I agree with Marisa, the likelihood of us being kicked out of the country is so unlikely to happen, unless your circumstances have changed when you need to renew and you can’t sadly meet the self funded conditions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janice Pullen Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 Thank you for this information. We have never received a letter concerning the 410/405 visa . Would appreciate you letting us know contact details of the correct department for 410 visas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 16/02/2019 at 15:33, Janice Pullen said: Thank you for this information. We have never received a letter concerning the 410/405 visa . Would appreciate you letting us know contact details of the correct department for 410 visas. Have looked it up on the government web site, the 410 appears to be renewed in the Hobart office, but the contact number is the same as the general one for all enquirees so I don’t know how you can contact the correct department. Try ringing and see if you can get put through? Sorry not to have helped much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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