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53 minutes ago, Phoenix16 said:

Thank you! I think you understood the essence of my post and it’s really appreciated. My concerns were never about the quality of treatment we would receive in the UK,  my mum recently got diagnosed with heart failure and cannot praise the service enough.  I am comparing our ability to see specialists very quickly, get appointments with GP’s literally on the day which is vital for the meds my hubby takes, just generally the accessibility to specialists and services that we have here in oz, granted I appreciate much of it is because we have a great private health policy but I cannot imagine waiting 2 weeks and more to see a GP, it’s a worry.

I think you would get to see someone quicker because of the issue but it would always have to be a request, but getting to see specialists here could be problematic, really check out support group experiences, also everyone seems to be stressed all the time and everything is located at the hospital.

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1 hour ago, Phoenix16 said:

Thank you! I think you understood the essence of my post and it’s really appreciated. My concerns were never about the quality of treatment we would receive in the UK,  my mum recently got diagnosed with heart failure and cannot praise the service enough.  I am comparing our ability to see specialists very quickly, get appointments with GP’s literally on the day which is vital for the meds my hubby takes, just generally the accessibility to specialists and services that we have here in oz, granted I appreciate much of it is because we have a great private health policy but I cannot imagine waiting 2 weeks and more to see a GP, it’s a worry.

Gosh I've never needed to wait 2 weeks; not for me, my parents or elderly aunt and uncle. I've never not been able to get an appointment on the day when it's been an "emergency" (I use that term loosely) and if I've had to book some time in advance its usually because I'm picky about the doctor I want and the time I want - and I love the online booking option and the online medications renewal. I've found seeing a specialist here has been quite a bit quicker than in Canberra which boasts ghastly waiting times across the board (the Canberra Times is always on about it). I think if you had private cover here it would easily be on a par with private cover in Australia. I'm always astonished at how quick things have been here, especially for my oldies who have been regular users of the service. There have also been some excellent after care provisions although I suspect rural Cambridgeshire is probably better served than, say, rural Devon.

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On 10/02/2019 at 17:54, FeelingStuck said:

I am definitely surprised that Tassie gets hot in the summer, Toots.   

This past January was the hottest month on record in Hobart - a maximum average of 25.9C.  This month it's 23 so far.   The northwest coast has the mildest climate and anywhere around the coast is usually subject to a sea breeze in the afternoon.    The good thing is that hot weather here usually only lasts a couple of days,  interrupted by cool fronts coming across the Southern Ocean:  it doesn't go on for weeks as it does on the mainland.

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I am in the healthcare sector so, with the aging population in Tassie, I was thinking I might be ok in regards to work.   

Oh my goodness - you would be welcomed with open arms!   

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Some interesting reading on UK wait times and other NHS figures.. 

4-hour waits in A&E rose to a new high, with 18.5% of people attending major departments experiencing long waits compared with 16.5% in 2017. Attendances rose by 0.6% in 2018.

The waiting list for consultant-led treatment rose to a new high in 2018 and the 18-week treatment target was not met.

Performance against the 62-day cancer treatment target reached a new low and the target was missed for a fifth consecutive year. The number of treatments rose 4% year on year. 

CBP-7281 (1).pdf


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On 10/02/2019 at 17:51, FeelingStuck said:

  I feel ungrateful and guilty when so many people want to move here.

Please don't let anyone let you feel ungrateful or guilty!   I've seen far too many people who stayed in  Australia because they were too proud to admit they'd "failed", and then find themselves in utter misery in their old age, having left it too late to move back.  Try not to think of what other people think - what matters is your own mental health.   

Bear in mind, about half of all migrants end up going home, for various reasons.  Missing family/feeling homesick is one of the major reasons given, so you're far from alone.  

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7 hours ago, calNgary said:

Some interesting reading on UK wait times and other NHS figures.. 

4-hour waits in A&E rose to a new high, with 18.5% of people attending major departments experiencing long waits compared with 16.5% in 2017. Attendances rose by 0.6% in 2018.

The waiting list for consultant-led treatment rose to a new high in 2018 and the 18-week treatment target was not met.

Performance against the 62-day cancer treatment target reached a new low and the target was missed for a fifth consecutive year. The number of treatments rose 4% year on year. 

CBP-7281 (1).pdf

It is very target driven often to the exclusion of everything else including quality of care. Meeting a target involves ticking a box that the person has been seen or had a phone call or a letter. Targets are what led to the Mid Staffs inquiry. Targets are over rated and get in the way of quality care. I work this every day and all my manager cares about is meeting targets to appease the commissioners. So absolutely no lessons learnt from the Mid Staffs inquiry at all........

Sadly Australia seemed to be standing on the edge of that particular abyss, also learning nothing from the UK, with its own target/kpi driven model. Turn back now Australia!

Everyone wants to know they are getting value for tax payers money but there is more to that than ticking a box. The only reason my families get more than a tick box service is because I make it so and can currently balance that with the targets, other areas simply cannot do that.

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On 20/02/2019 at 00:10, calNgary said:

Some interesting reading on UK wait times and other NHS figures.. 

4-hour waits in A&E rose to a new high, with 18.5% of people attending major departments experiencing long waits compared with 16.5% in 2017. Attendances rose by 0.6% in 2018.

The waiting list for consultant-led treatment rose to a new high in 2018 and the 18-week treatment target was not met.

Performance against the 62-day cancer treatment target reached a new low and the target was missed for a fifth consecutive year. The number of treatments rose 4% year on year. 

CBP-7281 (1).pdf

Waiting times are getting really bad as this government keeps on closing A&Es all over the place, so many wards are closed because of lack of staff and investment.


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Oh I really feel for you.  This is me - except I haven't made it back home since 2011.  I feel really desperate to leave sometimes, like I could just get on a plane and go home.  I can't of course - I have my Oz husband and two little girls who I would never leave.  I think the deep need to return home began back in 2013 after the birth of my first baby and it's just getting worse (in fact I'm back on antidepressants again for this first time since 2002) and now my Dad is 78 this year I'm starting to panic that I won't make it back to spend time with him.  He's not unwell or anything but definitely getting on in years.  I really feel that after 9 years I'm just wasting my life here - I'm just treading water until we can go home which is going to be extremely difficult (oz hubby, kids etc.) 

I must point out - this is no slight on Australia.  It's a lovely country and it has been kind to us. My heart just wants what it wants I guess. 

I do hope you find some way back xx 

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20 minutes ago, Sarahelle said:

Oh I really feel for you.  This is me - except I haven't made it back home since 2011.  I feel really desperate to leave sometimes, like I could just get on a plane and go home.  I can't of course - I have my Oz husband and two little girls who I would never leave.  I think the deep need to return home began back in 2013 after the birth of my first baby and it's just getting worse (in fact I'm back on antidepressants again for this first time since 2002) and now my Dad is 78 this year I'm starting to panic that I won't make it back to spend time with him.  He's not unwell or anything but definitely getting on in years.  I really feel that after 9 years I'm just wasting my life here - I'm just treading water until we can go home which is going to be extremely difficult (oz hubby, kids etc.) 

I must point out - this is no slight on Australia.  It's a lovely country and it has been kind to us. My heart just wants what it wants I guess. 

I do hope you find some way back xx 

I do feel for you.  Is it not possible for you to have a holiday in the UK?  Easier said then done I suppose.  Your husband wouldn't want to live in the UK?

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On 03/04/2019 at 00:27, Sarahelle said:

Oh I really feel for you.  This is me - except I haven't made it back home since 2011.  I feel really desperate to leave sometimes, like I could just get on a plane and go home.  I can't of course - I have my Oz husband and two little girls who I would never leave.  I think the deep need to return home began back in 2013 after the birth of my first baby and it's just getting worse (in fact I'm back on antidepressants again for this first time since 2002) and now my Dad is 78 this year I'm starting to panic that I won't make it back to spend time with him.  He's not unwell or anything but definitely getting on in years.  I really feel that after 9 years I'm just wasting my life here - I'm just treading water until we can go home which is going to be extremely difficult (oz hubby, kids etc.) 

I must point out - this is no slight on Australia.  It's a lovely country and it has been kind to us. My heart just wants what it wants I guess. 

I do hope you find some way back xx 

I completely understand the homesickness. I was quite happy in the UK and then after I lost my dad,  homesickness crept upon me and never left. I remember telling my husband and he said no at first ( he wanted to wait until retirement lol). I thought there was no hope. I think the key to getting him to come around and be even more excited about living in OZ then me, was I just kept being honest and my homesickness was too severe that the arguments were worth it. All I can say, is if you truely desperately wanted to go back to the UK, I’m sure your husband would want to find a way once he saw how unhappy this was making you. Don’t give up hope. I guess if you can get back for a hoilday first and access how your feelings are then. Maybe say to your hubby, I’d like to be back close to my dad and then once he has passed on, I’d be happy to come back to Australia to live. It’s not easy with the cost of moving etc but you make a plan, a budget and through the set backs, you don’t give up. 

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Please don't let anyone let you feel ungrateful or guilty!   I've seen far too many people who stayed in  Australia because they were too proud to admit they'd "failed", and then find themselves in utter misery in their old age, having left it too late to move back.  Try not to think of what other people think - what matters is your own mental health.   
Bear in mind, about half of all migrants end up going home, for various reasons.  Missing family/feeling homesick is one of the major reasons given, so you're far from alone.  

Well said Marisa! We’ve been here in Melbourne 30 years and have 2 Girls born here, had successful careers but Oz has never been our home. Looking forward to returning to our place of birth in 2023. Sad to leave our daughters but thanks to technology the distance wound be as traumatic as what it was like all those years ago for us !
Big financial plan forging ahead to make this happen in due course. Will always be grateful for living this experience but can’t wait to return to Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.
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On 07/04/2019 at 01:49, Elaine Davis said:


Well said Marisa! We’ve been here in Melbourne 30 years and have 2 Girls born here, had successful careers but Oz has never been our home. Looking forward to returning to our place of birth in 2023. Sad to leave our daughters but thanks to technology the distance wound be as traumatic as what it was like all those years ago for us !
Big financial plan forging ahead to make this happen in due course. Will always be grateful for living this experience but can’t wait to return to Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.

Scotland is amazing, much better place than Australia. Good move !

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