stokie123 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Hi All, We've planned a move to Australia for a year now which was triggered by my husbands employer wanting to relocate him to the Melbourne office of the company. Our plan was to move on a TSS visa and then apply for PR after a few years. We've spent thousands of pounds and months of stress getting a court order to allow us to emigrate with my daughter (visa required evidence her biological father is absent) only for my husbands company to go through a sudden takeover and now all relocation plans have been frozen indefinitely due to company restructure. We are absolutely devastated as we were at advanced stages of the visa application process and excited about the move. To add to the complication, our court order has a deadline of the 1st June to move to Australia otherwise it is void and we have to start again and get a new court order. This leaves no time for applying for PR visas which are notoriously competitive, admin heavy (skills tests etc) with long processing times. My skills are on the MLTSSL (ICT Business Analyst/Systems Analyst) and my husband's are on the STSOL (ICT Business Development) and there are hundreds of jobs advertised in Melbourne/Victoria for our skills. I have spoken to recruitment agencies about getting sponsorship myself but many are not all that interested in putting forward overseas candidates even if the positions have remained unfilled for months. I've applied for jobs directly with companies and been up front about requiring sponsorship but I've had no interest yet. I'm networking and spending every evening researching companies and contacting them directly. Do you think we should travel to Oz and try and line up interviews to meet employers face to face? What more can we do to improve our chances of finding a sponsor? Any advice would be appreciated. I am fully expecting you all to say our expectations are unrealistic but we need to exhaust all avenues before giving up surely! Many thanks, S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaggieMay24 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Due to the cost and complexity of sponsoring overseas workers, you'll likely find that unless you have really unique skills that can't easily be found in the Australian workforce, getting a sponsorship on short notice will be difficult. It's unfortunate the timing isn't working out for you, but likely your best option is to go down the road of a 189 or 190 visa without relying on employer sponsorship, and if that means a second court order it is an added cost to the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raul Senise Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 17/01/2019 at 03:52, stokie123 said: Hi All, We've planned a move to Australia for a year now which was triggered by my husbands employer wanting to relocate him to the Melbourne office of the company. Our plan was to move on a TSS visa and then apply for PR after a few years. We've spent thousands of pounds and months of stress getting a court order to allow us to emigrate with my daughter (visa required evidence her biological father is absent) only for my husbands company to go through a sudden takeover and now all relocation plans have been frozen indefinitely due to company restructure. We are absolutely devastated as we were at advanced stages of the visa application process and excited about the move. To add to the complication, our court order has a deadline of the 1st June to move to Australia otherwise it is void and we have to start again and get a new court order. This leaves no time for applying for PR visas which are notoriously competitive, admin heavy (skills tests etc) with long processing times. My skills are on the MLTSSL (ICT Business Analyst/Systems Analyst) and my husband's are on the STSOL (ICT Business Development) and there are hundreds of jobs advertised in Melbourne/Victoria for our skills. I have spoken to recruitment agencies about getting sponsorship myself but many are not all that interested in putting forward overseas candidates even if the positions have remained unfilled for months. I've applied for jobs directly with companies and been up front about requiring sponsorship but I've had no interest yet. I'm networking and spending every evening researching companies and contacting them directly. Do you think we should travel to Oz and try and line up interviews to meet employers face to face? What more can we do to improve our chances of finding a sponsor? Any advice would be appreciated. I am fully expecting you all to say our expectations are unrealistic but we need to exhaust all avenues before giving up surely! Many thanks, S Due to the large costs involved for a business to sponsor for a TSS, it will be difficult to secure sponsorship without the ability to work a trial period. Not impossible, but even more difficult if applying for jobs from outside of Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samlab Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 On 17/01/2019 at 02:52, stokie123 said: Hi All, We've planned a move to Australia for a year now which was triggered by my husbands employer wanting to relocate him to the Melbourne office of the company. Our plan was to move on a TSS visa and then apply for PR after a few years. We've spent thousands of pounds and months of stress getting a court order to allow us to emigrate with my daughter (visa required evidence her biological father is absent) only for my husbands company to go through a sudden takeover and now all relocation plans have been frozen indefinitely due to company restructure. We are absolutely devastated as we were at advanced stages of the visa application process and excited about the move. To add to the complication, our court order has a deadline of the 1st June to move to Australia otherwise it is void and we have to start again and get a new court order. This leaves no time for applying for PR visas which are notoriously competitive, admin heavy (skills tests etc) with long processing times. My skills are on the MLTSSL (ICT Business Analyst/Systems Analyst) and my husband's are on the STSOL (ICT Business Development) and there are hundreds of jobs advertised in Melbourne/Victoria for our skills. I have spoken to recruitment agencies about getting sponsorship myself but many are not all that interested in putting forward overseas candidates even if the positions have remained unfilled for months. I've applied for jobs directly with companies and been up front about requiring sponsorship but I've had no interest yet. I'm networking and spending every evening researching companies and contacting them directly. Do you think we should travel to Oz and try and line up interviews to meet employers face to face? What more can we do to improve our chances of finding a sponsor? Any advice would be appreciated. I am fully expecting you all to say our expectations are unrealistic but we need to exhaust all avenues before giving up surely! Many thanks, S Hi S My advise for what it’s worth is... don’t give up on your dream just yet. Maybe try to contact people who’ve been through it already via the 186 PR visa page. Or put a post on there asking if they can recommend a recruitment company specialising in your profession. or look for a person in the same field as you or your partner and ask them if they used a recruitment company and if so which one to get the their sponsorship. I wouldn’t recommend coming out here without a sponsor though. It’s not like it used to be and jobs are getting harder to find especially in Cities like Melbourne, Sydney, & Brisbane. Weve just been through the 457 to 186 PR process and it wasnt easy, lots of uncertainty and stress but we did it!! They have also brought in extra fees and rules for sponsoring companies & applicants making it harder but it’s still not impossible to do it. As MaggieMay24 said If possible go for a 189 or 190 it’s a lot less stressful and the turn around time is quicker. Nothing in life worth having ever came easy Good luck to you & your family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizbeth Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I'd suggest chatting to a registered migration agent. You can search for ones based in the United Kingdom here: https://www.mara.gov.au/search-the-register-of-migration-agents/ Some agents offer a free 30 minute consultation over the phone, and they should be able to tell you what your realistic options are. Another path you may/may not have considered.... could your partner adopt your daughter so that you don't have to go through this difficult court process again? It might involve going back to court in the sort term, but I think it would mean it was permanently sorted out. Good luck with it all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 10 hours ago, Bizbeth said: Another path you may/may not have considered.... could your partner adopt your daughter so that you don't have to go through this difficult court process again? It might involve going back to court in the sort term, but I think it would mean it was permanently sorted out. Good luck with it all! I recall someone with adopted children having to jump through multiple hoops to get visas for them, so I wouldn't assume that is a more straightforward pathway, check first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 On 17/01/2019 at 03:52, stokie123 said: Hi All, We've planned a move to Australia for a year now which was triggered by my husbands employer wanting to relocate him to the Melbourne office of the company. Our plan was to move on a TSS visa and then apply for PR after a few years. MaggieMay is very experienced on the employer side of sponsorship so I would take her advice seriously. Raul is a highly experienced agent, ditto. The bottom line is that with the new TSS visas, employers are reluctant to go through all the cost and preparation for a temp visa - they have to be really desperate before they'll do it, or alternatively they have to be very sure they have a proven candidate (like someone who's worked for them overseas). I'd say your chances of getting a TSS at short notice are nil, and your chances of getting one in the longer term are low. I appreciate that the TSS route is tempting, since it allows you to have your relocation expenses covered, but it's fraught with uncertainty and pitfalls too. Though we've had some members who went through the old 457 route and succeeded, we've had about as many who tried and failed. As Samlab said, even the tones who succeeded will tell you it's stressful and not easy. Assuming you're not going to get a TSS before the court order runs out anyway, you'd be far more sensible to go for a 189 or 190 directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokie123 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 Thanks everyone for the honest -and detailed advice. It doesn’t come as surprise that we are being told we are very optimistic thinking we can secure sponsorship short notice. I have, however, bitten the bullet and spoken to my current employer who have recently bought out two large Australian companies and have expressed my interest in relocation with them. It’s a risk telling my employer about our wishes but it’s ones worth taking if it pays off considering I’m senior level in my company currently. In the meantime I’m submitting my EOI for a 189 as I’ve already got my IELTS and skills test done. We are just not quite at the points we need right now for my skill (70 points but need 75) so not sure how long we’d need to wait or if we’d ever get in now. It’s such an emotional rollercoaster this emigration business!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I know you are disappointed, but, I strongly recommend you concentrate on gaining PR from the outset. I am one of the few mentioned above who arrived on a 457 - what is now the 482 but went on to get PR and citizenship. It turned out to be a stupidly stressful time as when we arrived, all was brilliant. But shortly after, the world economy changed and I was a facing redundancy, which of course means the visa is cancelled. I ended up lucky and was subsequently sponsored by my company. But, most of my British colleagues ended up leaving. It was stupidly stressful that I wouldn't want on my worst enemy. There are also massive issues that temp visas carry, such as spouses finding it very hard to find employment, that some states charge for any children's education, that if you want to buy a home, you need foreign investment approval, that employers often abuse holders knowing they are tied to the employer and a load of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samlab Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 5 hours ago, stokie123 said: Thanks everyone for the honest -and detailed advice. It doesn’t come as surprise that we are being told we are very optimistic thinking we can secure sponsorship short notice. I have, however, bitten the bullet and spoken to my current employer who have recently bought out two large Australian companies and have expressed my interest in relocation with them. It’s a risk telling my employer about our wishes but it’s ones worth taking if it pays off considering I’m senior level in my company currently. In the meantime I’m submitting my EOI for a 189 as I’ve already got my IELTS and skills test done. We are just not quite at the points we need right now for my skill (70 points but need 75) so not sure how long we’d need to wait or if we’d ever get in now. It’s such an emotional rollercoaster this emigration business!!!! Sounds like you’ve already done a lot of the hard work. Really hope it all goes well for you and you find a way. Australia is such a beautiful country. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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