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Suus

NSW 190 Secondary school teacher

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The wait just for an invite is really killing me. I know the 190 invites usually come around 15-18th each month, but to have been waiting since July with 70 pts is just making me more grey by the day. Is our only hope that Labor win the NSW election? Someone please give me some hope!

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Hi, we’re still waiting as well, since August 2018, but with only 65 points. It’s soooo frustrating isn’t it?!! I mean, what’s the point in putting Secondary School teacher on the “shortage list” but then hardly invite anyone??! I really don’t get it.. We started this whole process 1 year ago when we put in an eoi for a 189 and a 489 family sponsored, but not enough points anymore for 189 and 489 fs they only invite 10 a month (!), NSW 190 since August, nothing. And when we put an eoi in for a 489 SS from Southern Inland last month and we got rejected within a week... it really starts to feel like a hopeless situation :-( 

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16 minutes ago, Suus said:

Hi, we’re still waiting as well, since August 2018, but with only 65 points. It’s soooo frustrating isn’t it?!! I mean, what’s the point in putting Secondary School teacher on the “shortage list” but then hardly invite anyone??! I really don’t get it.. We started this whole process 1 year ago when we put in an eoi for a 189 and a 489 family sponsored, but not enough points anymore for 189 and 489 fs they only invite 10 a month (!), NSW 190 since August, nothing. And when we put an eoi in for a 489 SS from Southern Inland last month and we got rejected within a week... it really starts to feel like a hopeless situation 😞

There's not really a shortage of teachers just teachers who are prepared to go to places that nobody actually wants to live in, don't be misled by the impression that teachers are in demand. There's are thousands of young -Australian teachers who can't get jobs in graduation.

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2 minutes ago, Quoll said:

There's not really a shortage of teachers just teachers who are prepared to go to places that nobody actually wants to live in, don't be misled by the impression that teachers are in demand. There's are thousands of young -Australian teachers who can't get jobs in graduation.

We would be happy to work and live anywhere if it would mean we could stay,  but they are not even inviting for regional visa’s.. My husband is a Science teacher and from what I heard, regional NSW is desperate for Science teachers. But I am starting to wonder if they might even take Secondary School teachers off the lists in the new financial year, would make sense as, like you say, there is no shortage apparently and they are hardly inviting anyway. Wonder if we will ever be able to come back 🙁

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On 01/02/2019 at 03:14, Inge R said:

 

History, which is not that much in demand 😉

I requested an estimate (estimateinvite@iscah.com) at ISCAH (they mentioned in a newsletter that you could do this for free, and they gave me 11 May or 11 June. Since I really need to have a visa in December, I am now also in the process of applying for the 489 SA (80 points, 29 Jan). That should take around 5 weeks before I would get the invite. But I am still hoping for the 189 (70 points) on 11 March or even 11 April. Every year, you can see a major drop in Jan-Feb-March-April to only 300-600 invites a month 😢  And after that, who knows what will happen with the elections. Fingers crossed!

They don’t always drop invite numbers during this period. Two years ago March had over 5000: https://www.y-axis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Skills-select-Invitation-Results-26-4-2017-Occupation-ceilings.pdf

Really not sure how they are getting May or June for you. On January 11 when there were 2500 invitations, they invited up around December 8. Even if there’s only a month gap, that would mean January 8 gets invite February 11... does look like closer to March than June for you.

 

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6 hours ago, Quoll said:

There's not really a shortage of teachers just teachers who are prepared to go to places that nobody actually wants to live in, don't be misled by the impression that teachers are in demand. There's are thousands of young -Australian teachers who can't get jobs in graduation.

There's even less of a shortage of Accountants, Engineers and ICT people, but they still get all those invites.

And define 'places that nobody actually wants to live'. Most of the AU born grads from my Masters have gotten jobs, not inner city, but not outback either.

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17 hours ago, Suus said:

We would be happy to work and live anywhere if it would mean we could stay,  but they are not even inviting for regional visa’s.. My husband is a Science teacher and from what I heard, regional NSW is desperate for Science teachers. But I am starting to wonder if they might even take Secondary School teachers off the lists in the new financial year, would make sense as, like you say, there is no shortage apparently and they are hardly inviting anyway. Wonder if we will ever be able to come back 🙁

When was the last time they took secondary teachers off of the list? Is this idea of them taking the occupation off the list just conjecture? if they took it off, I don't know what I'd do with my life!

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5 hours ago, JDJones said:

When was the last time they took secondary teachers off of the list? Is this idea of them taking the occupation off the list just conjecture? if they took it off, I don't know what I'd do with my life!

They haven't yet but primary teachers aren't on most lists any more and there are restrictions about the specialist areas. I wouldn't be sanguine about secondary teachers staying on although there is a fair movement of science and maths teachers through the profession as graduates find they can do better in other areas using their skills. Humanities teachers are well over subscribed.

If they took it off one would hope that you would continue with a career that you love - never opt for teaching because you think it's an easy way to get a visa.

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On 07/02/2019 at 06:13, Suus said:

Hi, we’re still waiting as well, since August 2018, but with only 65 points. It’s soooo frustrating isn’t it?!! I mean, what’s the point in putting Secondary School teacher on the “shortage list” but then hardly invite anyone??! I really don’t get it.. We started this whole process 1 year ago when we put in an eoi for a 189 and a 489 family sponsored, but not enough points anymore for 189 and 489 fs they only invite 10 a month (!), NSW 190 since August, nothing. And when we put an eoi in for a 489 SS from Southern Inland last month and we got rejected within a week... it really starts to feel like a hopeless situation 😞

Why did they reject your EOI for Sothern Inland? Do you have work experience in teaching?

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3 hours ago, Khrys said:

Why did they reject your EOI for Sothern Inland? Do you have work experience in teaching?

They didn‘t give a reason and said they wouldn’t communicate about the rejection so there was no point asking. It’s my husband who is a Science teacher, he has an Australian teaching degree and 1 year teaching experience. But they are not asking for work experience like some of the other regions do, so not sure if that was the reason, but all very disappointing..😢

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On 08/02/2019 at 04:22, Quoll said:

They haven't yet but primary teachers aren't on most lists any more and there are restrictions about the specialist areas. I wouldn't be sanguine about secondary teachers staying on although there is a fair movement of science and maths teachers through the profession as graduates find they can do better in other areas using their skills. Humanities teachers are well over subscribed.

If they took it off one would hope that you would continue with a career that you love - never opt for teaching because you think it's an easy way to get a visa.

I think these are words of wisdom and I think it’s testament to much of Australia and many professions.  There are many many graduates here in Australia in many different professions, preference is now ALWAYS given to citizens and PR’s, but for those still eligible to apply for PR I  think you have to appreciate now that many graduates can fill your roles and whilst you are still on the list you face stiff competition when you get here and a surplus of highly qualified people who can do your job, many of them citizens and fully acclimatised to the Australian way of recruitment. 

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14 hours ago, Suus said:

They didn‘t give a reason and said they wouldn’t communicate about the rejection so there was no point asking. It’s my husband who is a Science teacher, he has an Australian teaching degree and 1 year teaching experience. But they are not asking for work experience like some of the other regions do, so not sure if that was the reason, but all very disappointing..😢

Yes, I see. It is very disppointing. Do you have 65 points for independant visa 189?

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2 hours ago, Khrys said:

Yes, I see. It is very disppointing. Do you have 65 points for independant visa 189?

No unfortunately it’s 65 with 190 state sponsorship points.. are you waiting for an invite as well?

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Yes, I have 65 points. I have uploaded my EOI in December, but no luck yet. It is very frustrating that EOI and Assessment will be expired in 2 years.

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Is that 65 points including state sponsorship? Yes it’s all incredibly frustrating and I struggle to find any logic in this while process. Our eoi will expire in a year now, we also have a 489 family visa for 70 points in, but sith only 10 invites a month for that one it looks pretty impossible.

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5 hours ago, Suus said:

Is that 65 points including state sponsorship? Yes it’s all incredibly frustrating and I struggle to find any logic in this while process. Our eoi will expire in a year now, we also have a 489 family visa for 70 points in, but sith only 10 invites a month for that one it looks pretty impossible.

No, it is 65 excluding sponsorship points. I have 70 with state sponsorship, but, unfortunately NSW doesn't invite anyone.

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4 hours ago, Khrys said:

No, it is 65 excluding sponsorship points. I have 70 with state sponsorship, but, unfortunately NSW doesn't invite anyone.

Fingers crossed they will start inviting teachers soon!

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Don’t think there will be any changes until after the elections.

 

189 invitations were just cut way down during last nights invitation round.

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13 hours ago, CivCdn said:

Don’t think there will be any changes until after the elections.

 

189 invitations were just cut way down during last nights invitation round.

Hope it doesn't affect those visas already submitted 😑


Submissions: EOI 26/10/18, Visa Invite 11/11/18, Visa submitted 19/12/18, Medicals 29/01/19,... 🤞

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20 hours ago, Burnsie said:

Hope it doesn't affect those visas already submitted 😑

You will be sweet mate. According to immitracker and other forums they are pacing through the 189 applications 


Occupation - Chef,  State - NSW, Points - 65 ( Age - 30, Edu - 15, Aus Edu - 5, English - 10, State - 5 )

VetAssess Applied - 10/06/18, Positive Skill Assessment -  15/10/18 EOI NSW  190 - 23/10/18, Invitation -  15/11/18, Nomination Applied - 19/11/18,   Nomination Approved- 20/11/18, Visa Lodged - 27/11/18, Health exam - 19/12/18, Grant -Awaiting

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Seems very few went out, and to those who would receive 189 in a few months anyway.

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On 01/10/2018 at 01:45, Karstedt said:

Was that as a secondary teacher as the primary or the plumber as primary (plumber will get snatched up ASAP)? How many points?

OP: I'm secondary, NSW EOI 6/6, 65+5 pts. NSW has not started 'bulk' inviting yet for the year, so they are only inviting certain occupations or very high point getters. And yes the occupational ceilings are stupid, they indicate demand, but selection is not based on them. For the 189, the caps are so high that the glut of 75+ point accounts and engineers can take pretty much all invites. For the 190, states have their own occupational priorities and don't publicize them.

Really superb answer you given 

It shows difference of 189&190  visa  where occupation ceilings. Only for 189  & while state sponsorship 190  is really different & not counting exact  demand of occupation ceilings 

 

Thank u 

 

 

 

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Have any 190s invites been issued this month???? I haven't heard a peep from anyone! Do we think that maybe they're holding out until after the NSW elections in March? What would most likely happen if Labor won?

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