JDJones Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 The wait just for an invite is really killing me. I know the 190 invites usually come around 15-18th each month, but to have been waiting since July with 70 pts is just making me more grey by the day. Is our only hope that Labor win the NSW election? Someone please give me some hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suus Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 Hi, we’re still waiting as well, since August 2018, but with only 65 points. It’s soooo frustrating isn’t it?!! I mean, what’s the point in putting Secondary School teacher on the “shortage list” but then hardly invite anyone??! I really don’t get it.. We started this whole process 1 year ago when we put in an eoi for a 189 and a 489 family sponsored, but not enough points anymore for 189 and 489 fs they only invite 10 a month (!), NSW 190 since August, nothing. And when we put an eoi in for a 489 SS from Southern Inland last month and we got rejected within a week... it really starts to feel like a hopeless situation :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, Suus said: Hi, we’re still waiting as well, since August 2018, but with only 65 points. It’s soooo frustrating isn’t it?!! I mean, what’s the point in putting Secondary School teacher on the “shortage list” but then hardly invite anyone??! I really don’t get it.. We started this whole process 1 year ago when we put in an eoi for a 189 and a 489 family sponsored, but not enough points anymore for 189 and 489 fs they only invite 10 a month (!), NSW 190 since August, nothing. And when we put an eoi in for a 489 SS from Southern Inland last month and we got rejected within a week... it really starts to feel like a hopeless situation There's not really a shortage of teachers just teachers who are prepared to go to places that nobody actually wants to live in, don't be misled by the impression that teachers are in demand. There's are thousands of young -Australian teachers who can't get jobs in graduation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suus Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Quoll said: There's not really a shortage of teachers just teachers who are prepared to go to places that nobody actually wants to live in, don't be misled by the impression that teachers are in demand. There's are thousands of young -Australian teachers who can't get jobs in graduation. We would be happy to work and live anywhere if it would mean we could stay, but they are not even inviting for regional visa’s.. My husband is a Science teacher and from what I heard, regional NSW is desperate for Science teachers. But I am starting to wonder if they might even take Secondary School teachers off the lists in the new financial year, would make sense as, like you say, there is no shortage apparently and they are hardly inviting anyway. Wonder if we will ever be able to come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CivCdn Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 On 01/02/2019 at 03:14, Inge R said: History, which is not that much in demand I requested an estimate (estimateinvite@iscah.com) at ISCAH (they mentioned in a newsletter that you could do this for free, and they gave me 11 May or 11 June. Since I really need to have a visa in December, I am now also in the process of applying for the 489 SA (80 points, 29 Jan). That should take around 5 weeks before I would get the invite. But I am still hoping for the 189 (70 points) on 11 March or even 11 April. Every year, you can see a major drop in Jan-Feb-March-April to only 300-600 invites a month And after that, who knows what will happen with the elections. Fingers crossed! They don’t always drop invite numbers during this period. Two years ago March had over 5000: https://www.y-axis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Skills-select-Invitation-Results-26-4-2017-Occupation-ceilings.pdf Really not sure how they are getting May or June for you. On January 11 when there were 2500 invitations, they invited up around December 8. Even if there’s only a month gap, that would mean January 8 gets invite February 11... does look like closer to March than June for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karstedt Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Quoll said: There's not really a shortage of teachers just teachers who are prepared to go to places that nobody actually wants to live in, don't be misled by the impression that teachers are in demand. There's are thousands of young -Australian teachers who can't get jobs in graduation. There's even less of a shortage of Accountants, Engineers and ICT people, but they still get all those invites. And define 'places that nobody actually wants to live'. Most of the AU born grads from my Masters have gotten jobs, not inner city, but not outback either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDJones Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 17 hours ago, Suus said: We would be happy to work and live anywhere if it would mean we could stay, but they are not even inviting for regional visa’s.. My husband is a Science teacher and from what I heard, regional NSW is desperate for Science teachers. But I am starting to wonder if they might even take Secondary School teachers off the lists in the new financial year, would make sense as, like you say, there is no shortage apparently and they are hardly inviting anyway. Wonder if we will ever be able to come back When was the last time they took secondary teachers off of the list? Is this idea of them taking the occupation off the list just conjecture? if they took it off, I don't know what I'd do with my life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 5 hours ago, JDJones said: When was the last time they took secondary teachers off of the list? Is this idea of them taking the occupation off the list just conjecture? if they took it off, I don't know what I'd do with my life! They haven't yet but primary teachers aren't on most lists any more and there are restrictions about the specialist areas. I wouldn't be sanguine about secondary teachers staying on although there is a fair movement of science and maths teachers through the profession as graduates find they can do better in other areas using their skills. Humanities teachers are well over subscribed. If they took it off one would hope that you would continue with a career that you love - never opt for teaching because you think it's an easy way to get a visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khrys Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 On 07/02/2019 at 06:13, Suus said: Hi, we’re still waiting as well, since August 2018, but with only 65 points. It’s soooo frustrating isn’t it?!! I mean, what’s the point in putting Secondary School teacher on the “shortage list” but then hardly invite anyone??! I really don’t get it.. We started this whole process 1 year ago when we put in an eoi for a 189 and a 489 family sponsored, but not enough points anymore for 189 and 489 fs they only invite 10 a month (!), NSW 190 since August, nothing. And when we put an eoi in for a 489 SS from Southern Inland last month and we got rejected within a week... it really starts to feel like a hopeless situation Why did they reject your EOI for Sothern Inland? Do you have work experience in teaching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suus Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Khrys said: Why did they reject your EOI for Sothern Inland? Do you have work experience in teaching? They didn‘t give a reason and said they wouldn’t communicate about the rejection so there was no point asking. It’s my husband who is a Science teacher, he has an Australian teaching degree and 1 year teaching experience. But they are not asking for work experience like some of the other regions do, so not sure if that was the reason, but all very disappointing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix16 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 On 08/02/2019 at 04:22, Quoll said: They haven't yet but primary teachers aren't on most lists any more and there are restrictions about the specialist areas. I wouldn't be sanguine about secondary teachers staying on although there is a fair movement of science and maths teachers through the profession as graduates find they can do better in other areas using their skills. Humanities teachers are well over subscribed. If they took it off one would hope that you would continue with a career that you love - never opt for teaching because you think it's an easy way to get a visa. I think these are words of wisdom and I think it’s testament to much of Australia and many professions. There are many many graduates here in Australia in many different professions, preference is now ALWAYS given to citizens and PR’s, but for those still eligible to apply for PR I think you have to appreciate now that many graduates can fill your roles and whilst you are still on the list you face stiff competition when you get here and a surplus of highly qualified people who can do your job, many of them citizens and fully acclimatised to the Australian way of recruitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khrys Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Suus said: They didn‘t give a reason and said they wouldn’t communicate about the rejection so there was no point asking. It’s my husband who is a Science teacher, he has an Australian teaching degree and 1 year teaching experience. But they are not asking for work experience like some of the other regions do, so not sure if that was the reason, but all very disappointing.. Yes, I see. It is very disppointing. Do you have 65 points for independant visa 189? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suus Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Khrys said: Yes, I see. It is very disppointing. Do you have 65 points for independant visa 189? No unfortunately it’s 65 with 190 state sponsorship points.. are you waiting for an invite as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khrys Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Yes, I have 65 points. I have uploaded my EOI in December, but no luck yet. It is very frustrating that EOI and Assessment will be expired in 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suus Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 Is that 65 points including state sponsorship? Yes it’s all incredibly frustrating and I struggle to find any logic in this while process. Our eoi will expire in a year now, we also have a 489 family visa for 70 points in, but sith only 10 invites a month for that one it looks pretty impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khrys Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Suus said: Is that 65 points including state sponsorship? Yes it’s all incredibly frustrating and I struggle to find any logic in this while process. Our eoi will expire in a year now, we also have a 489 family visa for 70 points in, but sith only 10 invites a month for that one it looks pretty impossible. No, it is 65 excluding sponsorship points. I have 70 with state sponsorship, but, unfortunately NSW doesn't invite anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suus Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Khrys said: No, it is 65 excluding sponsorship points. I have 70 with state sponsorship, but, unfortunately NSW doesn't invite anyone. Fingers crossed they will start inviting teachers soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CivCdn Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Don’t think there will be any changes until after the elections. 189 invitations were just cut way down during last nights invitation round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 13 hours ago, CivCdn said: Don’t think there will be any changes until after the elections. 189 invitations were just cut way down during last nights invitation round. Hope it doesn't affect those visas already submitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrychandi Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) On 12/02/2019 at 23:43, Burnsie said: Hope it doesn't affect those visas already submitted You will be sweet mate. According to other forums they are pacing through the 189 applications Edited February 21, 2019 by MaggieMay24 Removing reference to external site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karstedt Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 pre-invites went out... any teachers got one? Not me obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CivCdn Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) Seems very few went out, and to those who would receive 189 in a few months anyway. Edited February 13, 2019 by CivCdn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krunal Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 01/10/2018 at 01:45, Karstedt said: Was that as a secondary teacher as the primary or the plumber as primary (plumber will get snatched up ASAP)? How many points? OP: I'm secondary, NSW EOI 6/6, 65+5 pts. NSW has not started 'bulk' inviting yet for the year, so they are only inviting certain occupations or very high point getters. And yes the occupational ceilings are stupid, they indicate demand, but selection is not based on them. For the 189, the caps are so high that the glut of 75+ point accounts and engineers can take pretty much all invites. For the 190, states have their own occupational priorities and don't publicize them. Really superb answer you given It shows difference of 189&190 visa where occupation ceilings. Only for 189 & while state sponsorship 190 is really different & not counting exact demand of occupation ceilings Thank u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDJones Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Have any 190s invites been issued this month???? I haven't heard a peep from anyone! Do we think that maybe they're holding out until after the NSW elections in March? What would most likely happen if Labor won? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karstedt Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 On 18/02/2019 at 08:15, JDJones said: Have any 190s invites been issued this month???? I haven't heard a peep from anyone! Do we think that maybe they're holding out until after the NSW elections in March? What would most likely happen if Labor won? Yes, a handful of people were invited to drive Uber and work at Kmart on the 13th. Labor is more likely to return skilled immigration to former levels because of the economic benefit; and their campaign platform is not entrenched in the demonization of immigration. Both parties however, are pledging over 4000 new teachers in the next 4 years, an unprecedented level of growth (amid a 10 year low in applicants). From the stats I've seen, that will only be possible if they increase their 190 teacher intake from this years zero (so far). They don't necessarily need a lot, but there are probably less than 50 of us waiting. However, If the Liberals hold, they will attribute it in part to heir anti-immigration position, and will more likely fail to deliver the teachers rather than increase migrant intake. Unfortunately, nobody seem interested in migration reform, only viewing it as a 'more' or 'less' numbers game. They are content to let things chug along dis-functionally and flood the service sector with pro-ratas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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