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Are employment prospects in Adelaide as bad people portray on these forums

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Hi all, i have read many threads of people on 489 visas for South Australia stating that they are unable to find work, are struggling to get by and are asking questions like 'Can we move to another state as we are unable to find work'.

Are employment prospects in Adelaide as bad people portray on these forums?  I have could statistics that the unemployment rate in Adelaide is 6.67% as of the first quarter of 2018: 

https://economy.id.com.au/adelaide/unemployment

An unemployment rate of 6.67% is actually quite impressive in comparison to some other cities.  So i wonder why so many people complain that they are unable to find work?  Perhaps they mean they are unable to find work in their field?  Are jobs plentiful as long as you are willing to do any kind of work?

 

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It depends what kind of work you're looking for.   All the big corporations have their main offices in Sydney and Melbourne, except for a few who are in Brisbane.  The mining companies are in Perth.   So for people looking for senior management or IT positions, pickings in Adelaide can be slim because the top management and the main IT operations are all elsewhere. 

 


Scot by birth, emigrated 1985 | Aussie husband applied UK spouse visa Jan 2015, granted March 2015, moved to UK May 2015 | Returned to Oz June 2016

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2 hours ago, lynney45 said:

 

Are employment prospects in Adelaide as bad people portray on these forums?   

Are jobs plentiful as long as you are willing to do any kind of work?

 

Infact , prospects are likely to be worse,  a new government was returned this year and they are busy clearing out the 16 years mediocrity of the last administration who have steered SA and Adelaide into an economic corner.  over 5000 public servants to get he chop as a result.

Adelaide is a public sector town,  over 12% of the population is directly employed by the government, and another substantial percentage indirectly, which means over a the decades, the same people, same families and same groups of people attain control of certain functions, barring any newcomers.  

Adelaide has a reputation for nepotism, cronyism and mediocrity,  and being somewhat backward, this is a well earned reputation and it's largely true.

Jobs are certainly not plentiful,  which is a rather general remark to make,  I'd say good jobs with prospects are very scarce, low level jobs with limited  prospects are common, it is also very common for people at good level of experience and competency to take a minor role reporting to someone who's a fraction of their experience in the hope that they'll be rewarded and or promoted - this does not always work : see above

Edited by deryans

When I was a kid, it seemed like they made something new every day. Some, gadget or idea, like every day was Christmas. But six billion people, just imagine that. And every last one of them trying to have it all…........

 

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On 06/09/2018 at 23:49, deryans said:

Infact , prospects are likely to be worse,  a new government was returned this year and they are busy clearing out the 16 years mediocrity of the last administration who have steered SA and Adelaide into an economic corner.  over 5000 public servants to get he chop as a result.

Adelaide is a public sector town,  over 12% of the population is directly employed by the government, and another substantial percentage indirectly, which means over a the decades, the same people, same families and same groups of people attain control of certain functions, barring any newcomers.  

Adelaide has a reputation for nepotism, cronyism and mediocrity,  and being somewhat backward, this is a well earned reputation and it's largely true.

Jobs are certainly not plentiful,  which is a rather general remark to make,  I'd say good jobs with prospects are very scarce, low level jobs with limited  prospects are common, it is also very common for people at good level of experience and competency to take a minor role reporting to someone who's a fraction of their experience in the hope that they'll be rewarded and or promoted - this does not always work : see above

Ex Croweaters, who abound on the Eastern states, call SA 30:30.  30 mins and 30 years behind the rest of Australia.  

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I could type for hours on this topic! Without knowing your specific circumstances and skill set, the answer is it depends what you do, what you are willing to do, your (and whoever you are coming with) expectations, your commitment to building a new life in Adelaide/Australia, your approach and attitude to starting over and making it work etc, etc, etc.

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I work as a software tester in the IT industry, i have 9 years experience with several major companies in the UK, and hold a masters in computing and information systems, and professional certifications.  I am committed to building a new life in Australia, so much so that i appreciate that i will most likely need to make sacrifices and take a step back in my career for 2 years until i meet my state sponsorship criteria in Adelaide to apply for PR then i can hopefully get my career back on track in Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane if PR is approved.  I will be emigrating alone.  My biggest concern is that when i filter for roles in my profession on seek.com.au i see literally around 5 new jobs per month in my profession.  This is very daunting considering Adelaide has a population of 1.2 million.  Due to this i am anticipating to find it difficult to find a job in my profession, so therefore i am willing to take any job as long as it pays the bills in order for me to get through these two years.  Even then however, i am trying to understand how difficult it is to just get any job that merely pays the bills given the negative sentiment i have seen on the forums around employment prospects in Adelaide/South Australia.  I am just trying to gain an understanding so i can prepare for the worst, in case i need to have two years worth of savings prior to migration.

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I work as a software tester in the IT industry, i have 9 years experience with several major companies in the UK, and hold a masters in computing and information systems, and professional certifications.  I am committed to building a new life in Australia, so much so that i appreciate that i will most likely need to make sacrifices and take a step back in my career for 2 years until i meet my state sponsorship criteria in Adelaide to apply for PR then i can hopefully get my career back on track in Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane if PR is approved.  I will be emigrating alone.  My biggest concern is that when i filter for roles in my profession on seek.com.au i see literally around 5 new jobs per month in my profession.  This is very daunting considering Adelaide has a population of 1.2 million.  Due to this i am anticipating to find it difficult to find a job in my profession, so therefore i am willing to take any job as long as it pays the bills in order for me to get through these two years.  Even then however, i am trying to understand how difficult it is to just get any job that merely pays the bills given the negative sentiment i have seen on the forums around employment prospects in Adelaide/South Australia.  I am just trying to gain an understanding so i can prepare for the worst, in case i need to have two years worth of savings prior to migration.
I also work in IT. I am a qualified Network Engineer but work as an IT Manager in the day job with some engineering duties.

Looking at seek myself I seem to notice the generic IT jobs seem to be more popular. I guess you need to broaden a little.

I am also migrating to Adelaide alone (hopefully!).

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We live in Adelaide.  My OH works in IT and has a tendency to change jobs on a fairly regular basis.  He is also 55.  So far he has not had any issues finding another job when he has had enough of the one he has got.

Edited by NicF

Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain but it takes character and self control to be understanding and forgiving.

Dale Carnegie – 1888-1955, Author and Lecturer

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10 minutes ago, JetBlast said:

I also work in IT. I am a qualified Network Engineer but work as an IT Manager in the day job with some engineering duties.

Looking at seek myself I seem to notice the generic IT jobs seem to be more popular. I guess you need to broaden a little.

I am also migrating to Adelaide alone (hopefully!).

Good luck with the move hope you find a role where your experience lies.  I tried broadening the search criteria and i see there are more generic roles, so i will be applying for those too as i don't expect to find a role in my specialism with such low volume of opportunities there.  I am also preparing myself to apply for roles outside of the IT industry altogether just to pay the bills if Adelaide is as difficult to find a job as the sentiment on the forums portrays.  

Is Seek the career site that has the highest volume of IT roles do you know?  I am wondering what the employment prospects are when registering with local recruitment agencies in Adelaide compared to applying directly on Seek?  We probably don't have many other options as it will take time to develop and establish a linkedIn network.

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I worked in Brisbane on a temporary visa in 2011. I found a job as a deployment lead very quickly on Seek. At the time I had no management experience either. For me on that occasion it worked but I can't really tell you anymore really.

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3 minutes ago, NicF said:

We live in Adelaide.  My OH works in IT and has a tendency to change jobs on a fairly regular basis.  He is also 55.  So far he has not had any issues finding another job when he has had enough of the one he has got.

That's reassuring NicF, it intils me with some hope.  Are you aware of what his specialism/field of expertise is in IT if you don't mind sharing please?  Or is he a bit of an all rounder in different areas?

Thanks

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I think 2 years savings is a wise decision, but an expensive drop for what could prove to be a most ineffective use of your funds ?

The step back you speak of is more than 2 years, that's best case scenario and a minimum, 2 years is simply the visa requirement and has nothing to do with career, if you are an accomplished IT professional, you may find that your "step back" is considerably larger than 2 years, then again it might be that you thrive, it's something of a lottery to be fair, but with higher stakes. At least you don't have family, please tell me you're not gambling on adelaide with your family ?

Edited by deryans

When I was a kid, it seemed like they made something new every day. Some, gadget or idea, like every day was Christmas. But six billion people, just imagine that. And every last one of them trying to have it all…........

 

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On 19/09/2018 at 06:42, lynney45 said:

That's reassuring NicF, it intils me with some hope.  Are you aware of what his specialism/field of expertise is in IT if you don't mind sharing please?  Or is he a bit of an all rounder in different areas?

Thanks

He's mostly got experience in development with his main skills in visual basic and SQL, but has done a variety of roles in the past, including DBA work.  More recently he has worked as a development team leader, as a BA and as a kind of technical BA.  He's currently working as a report writer in SQL.

There are IT jobs around, not as many as in Sydney or Melbourne, but there aren't as many people going for them (and if my OH's experience of recruiting is anything to go by the quality of a fair number of candidates isn't that great either).  There is a lot of work in the public sector, but as @deryans will tell you the public sector can be a sole destroying place here, especially if you are used to working in an area that is efficient with modern working practices.  If you are happy to just get your head down and do what you are asked to do and not worry about how badly things are being run it's not too bad.  My OH is in his second job in the public sector and he gets very frustrated by it all.  It doesn't help that where he is the IT project is being run by people with no IT experience.


Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain but it takes character and self control to be understanding and forgiving.

Dale Carnegie – 1888-1955, Author and Lecturer

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