Nemesis Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 5 hours ago, Jupiter said: Australia is a money pit. If you have money, you can live well. If not, will end up in the streets and constantly harassed by cops. SO why are you trying so hard to get back in!?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWMOY04 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Nemesis said: SO why are you trying so hard to get back in!?! was just about to say this too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unzippy Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) They won the lottery? Edited September 14, 2018 by unzippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWMOY04 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 On 20/08/2018 at 00:09, Guest said: Hi. I really think that there should be a big notice put up for anyone coming out here to Oz -saying- DON'T DO IT UNLESS YOU HAVE MILLIONS. Australia has become a two class society. The Rich and the poor. No in between.,.......So incredibly disappointed in Australia. In my youth it had such potential. I feel for you in your difficulties, however I have to disagree with most of what you have said, not just in this quote. But I'll only deal with these two statements. in summary, I'm no millionaire in the UK, but studying my situation here and comparing the same jobs, housing and social elements, Australia is a MUUUUUCH better bet....even in Australia, I am nowhere near being millionaire within the next 3 years unless my income source changes... even with the expensive rents, I still have more disposable income I Aus than the UK. granted our life situations are different, but I don't think they are that different that you would put a warning saying "Aus:for millionaires only" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unzippy Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Another thing I hadn't banked on (see what I dd there) - my last two jobs I've been paid every two weeks. I had no idea that was a thing. Certainly makes you feel richer! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Nemesis said: SO why are you trying so hard to get back in!?! So I can be in the first category of making money and living well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Toots said: You had a 3 year ban. If Australia is so hard to live in, why do you want to come back here? So I can take your jobs. Just kidding. If I go to Australia next time, my situation will probably be different, because previously, I was on a student visa without much income. Next time, I'm most likely to have a full time job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumbeat Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Jupiter said: So I can be in the first category of making money and living well. Do you actually have any skills to offer?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Drumbeat said: Do you actually have any skills to offer?? Yes, I have a Bachelor's degree in Computer Science and although I don't have formal work experience, I have worked on open source projects online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Good luck with that- I think we have a lot of computer grads here these days so you might find things are a little different from 3 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisher1 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 On 14 September 2018 at 10:33, SWMOY04 said: I feel for you in your difficulties, however I have to disagree with most of what you have said, not just in this quote. But I'll only deal with these two statements. in summary, I'm no millionaire in the UK, but studying my situation here and comparing the same jobs, housing and social elements, Australia is a MUUUUUCH better bet....even in Australia, I am nowhere near being millionaire within the next 3 years unless my income source changes... even with the expensive rents, I still have more disposable income I Aus than the UK. granted our life situations are different, but I don't think they are that different that you would put a warning saying "Aus:for millionaires only" I have to agree with you. My husband and I have been here for a year and have just finished sorting out a proper budget based on actual bills rather than guesstimates. We have now bought a house which is half the size and was twice the price of our old house in North Wales so I agree about the awful housing costs. Apart from that, having totted up our annual bills (plus 10% for inflation) and reached a monthly figure to save, our overheads are almost identical. Ditto the grocery bill. Some things are much more expensive but on the whole our living costs are about the same. Its the housing cost that makes it unafordable - we were lucky enough to be sble to buy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Fisher1 said: I have to agree with you. My husband and I have been here for a year and have just finished sorting out a proper budget based on actual bills rather than guesstimates. We have now bought a house which is half the size and was twice the price of our old house in North Wales so I agree about the awful housing costs. Apart from that, having totted up our annual bills (plus 10% for inflation) and reached a monthly figure to save, our overheads are almost identical. Ditto the grocery bill. Some things are much more expensive but on the whole our living costs are about the same. Its the housing cost that makes it unafordable - we were lucky enough to be sble to buy. The difference in the cost of houses has to depend on the area you are moving from compared to your new area. We have a small ex council house in London which compares in both price and rent to Sydney. A house near us on the Sunshine Coast has just sold for over $1000,000, a record price locally, to people from Sydney, very large house pool, great position, they think they have a bargain. Equates to just under 600,000 uk pounds. The cost of a small extended 1930’s semi in my sons area of Bristol is over 600,000pds and to buy anything decent and detached, the price is over 850,000. I cant compare average household outgoings as it’s too long since I lived in UK. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWMOY04 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 13 hours ago, ramot said: The difference in the cost of houses has to depend on the area you are moving from compared to your new area. very true a new estate being built.near me has 4 bed detached with ensuite and another 1 and half bathrooms. two living rooms, open plan kitchen/dining area, relatively "large" (by English standards) backyard, 2 car garage 5 minutes drive to interchanges for London-Glasgow/Edinburgh train or Manchester-Llandudno and a similar distance to the transpenine line. £285,000 A regular semidetached 3 bed, 1 & half bath, no garage, small backyard house in my area can go as low as £120k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsemad1976 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 On 19/09/2018 at 12:35, SWMOY04 said: very true a new estate being built.near me has 4 bed detached with ensuite and another 1 and half bathrooms. two living rooms, open plan kitchen/dining area, relatively "large" (by English standards) backyard, 2 car garage 5 minutes drive to interchanges for London-Glasgow/Edinburgh train or Manchester-Llandudno and a similar distance to the transpenine line. £285,000 A regular semidetached 3 bed, 1 & half bath, no garage, small backyard house in my area can go as low as £120k If we didn't want to move to Australia I'd be taking two of those houses at the price!! LOL We're in the Southwest 1hr from Bristol and on the M4 corridor where a 4/5 bed detached new build (ish) 1 ensuite, bath, 2 reception rooms, kitchen/family/dining, utility, garage and a larger than average plot is circa £450-£480k the price differences depending on location happens everywhere! It certainly does pay to do your homework! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Wonder what has happened to the OP ? Genuine-- or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tootsie Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 On 20/08/2018 at 09:09, Guest said: Hi. I really think that there should be a big notice put up for anyone coming out here to Oz -saying- DON'T DO IT UNLESS YOU HAVE MILLIONS. Well things were certainly much cheaper in the 1980's and 1990's I agree.....but I think the above is rather an exaggeration. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenfrapin Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) Read this with interest and couldn't stop myself. Of course the OP is long disappeared but still It is unfair to work/live in a country for 30 odd years and assume the money made there would be sufficient in another country. That alone is the root cause of the OP's issue. Wages in UK are good to live and retire there. Spending your working years in Australia, getting a mortgage and saving up to then retire works, wait for it, in Australia The OP assumed after leaving at 21 and returning 30 years later, after getting used to UK, that the benefits would be same the same and pound for pound, they would get similar benefits here. Totally wrong and miscalculated move with very little research before making such a big move And in general, extremely low wage people will have a tough time in any country, more so if they move countries when they are older and with no wages at all. It is harsh but if you are on a low wage your entire life means you havent moved up or learnt new skills to earn more (whatever the circumstances) and it is likely to not be able to get a low wage job as you get older Edited November 30, 2018 by Kenfrapin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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