Australian Disability Pension after living overseas

[williamc adlam 0]

hello i been 22 years living the uk  i like to know if still recieve my Australian support pension if i came back to live adliade south australia? please let me know thanks kind regards william c Adlam.

[Tulip1 4,954]

35 minutes ago, williamc adlam said:

hello i been 22 years living the uk  i like to know if still recieve my Australian support pension if i came back to live adliade south australia? please let me know thanks kind regards william c Adlam.

Probably best to contact centre link and ask them whether you qualify 

[Toots 12,611]

Here's a bit of info.

https://www.humanservices.gov.au/individuals/services/centrelink/disability-support-pension

[The Pom Queen 5,788]

Hi @williamc adlam welcome to the forum. I suppose the first thing is are you an Australian Citizen? If you are that’s one box ticked.

Now the rules have changed a lot since you have been here. In 2006 they made it that anyone with a disability who was (in the governments eyes) fit to work, for 15 hours a week or more, would no longer be eligible.  Now what gets me with this is, I know of a few people who have lost their limbs, are in a wheelchair, but still told they are fit to work and are not eligible. Yet people with a back problem (I’m not playing down back problems but just comparing the two cases) and who were registered prior to 2006 can still claim. Have a read here http://guides.dss.gov.au/guide-social-security-law/1/2/5/10

It doesn’t even stop there, if they deem you can work 15 hours or more in any job, ANYWHERE, yes that’s right ANYWHERE in Australia, then they will not pay it, instead you have to go on to Newstart. 

There was an article last week in the news about Centrelink stopping someone’s payments whilst they laid dying in hospital. I can’t find that article but here are some similar.

https://www.dailymercury.com.au/news/a-brain-tumour-but-centrelink-says-he-can-still-wo/3130867/

https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/terminally-ill-cancer-patient-rhys-pagaldays-centrelink-support-cut-off-when-he-failed-to-go-job-hunting-20170323-gv4j7p.html

 

Now there are some who have refused to accept this decision and appealed.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/amputee-doug-stubbs-wins-case-against-federal-government-for-his-right-to-disability-pension/news-story/15b6505d1ebfe4dccae37f94a2700a7d

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/centrelink-asks-paralysed-man-to-prove-he-deserved-pension-20161022-gs88ax.html

 

This is a great resource for the appeals process and gives you an idea what they are looking for.

https://independentadvocacy.org.au/upload/files/Disability Support Pension Appeal Fact Sheet.pdf

This article is 2 years out of date but also worth a read

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/the-cruel-pension-eligibility-tricks-facing-australias-disabled,8994

 

I am really sorry to put a downer on things for you, it’s hard enough having a disability and struggling day to day without having to fight the system. With the new roll out of NDIS I have seen so many participants become suicidal or give up with their claim because they can’t do it anymore. Even the LAC’s give conflicting advice along with the NDIA. In one phone call you get told one thing and then on another you get told the opposite.

Im actually looking for work, I can’t go through all the Centrelink paperwork and stress, I just can’t do it. My problem is who will hire me, I am in a wheelchair, I may need to be in the bathroom for an hour at a time, work 2 weeks then have 2 weeks in hospital. 

‘People say they don’t discriminate but they do. 

 

Now i I don’t know what your disability is but Adelaide have started to roll out the NDIS, they don’t give you money for not working etc but they will (if eligible) provide funding for Assistive Technology (wheelchairs, feeding utensils, shower chairs etc), Daily Activities (personal carer, domestic care, etc), Consumables (if you have PEJ tubes, catheters, syringes, needles, etc), Home Modifications (adapting your home to your situation) then there are two more and I forget the names but one is for Physio, etc and the other is for Social outings.

The NDIS process is very very stressful, I know people who have been knocked back and then the same day another person approved and they both had the exact same medical diagnosis. Basically it’s whoever is on the other end, they aren’t medically trained and if they tick the wrong box or miss a box they can change the total outcome. I know of a gentleman who got refused his bathroom Modifications, his support team asked for the reasons why, he had passed 99% of the assessment but was rejected because they had quoted in for new tower rail  and toilet roll holder and NDIA said they could reuse the old one. The guy said if they had called him and said would you mind paying for this he would have said yes. 

[williamc adlam 0]

http://IAM BRITISH CITIZEN AT THE MOMENT Yes iam brtish citizen  at the moment my mum passed away when arrived in the uk  it's iam Australian born i think Australia  borders control turning away australian born  person like myself it's not fair it's all do with cuz i lived 22 years in Britian  i like to live in adlaide cuz of stupid laws over there also why can't centrelink  let get my pension in adlaide? please let me know kind regards william c adlam.

[williamc adlam 0]

iam disabled with brain indury living in the Leek Staffordshire in uk thanks kind regards William c Adlam.

[williamc adlam 0]

my  brain indury started in adlaide 1969 thanks kind regards william c adlam.

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Australians court in property trap yes it is 

[williamc adlam 0]

What do i do next The pom Queen? please let me know thanks  kind regards William C Adlam

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iam not woking here thanks The Pom Queen thanks

[The Pom Queen 5,788]

Sorry for the delay in replying @williamc adlam I had an operation on Friday so still sleepy.

Here is another article today which also states that 70% of disability applications are being refused http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-04/huntingtons-disease-ndis-disability-pension-case/10071342?pfmredir=sm&sf194900959=1&smid=Page: ABC News-Facebook_Organic&WT.tsrc=Facebook_Organic

As you are an Australian Citizen as far as I know you should be able to claim some kind of benefit immediately. I would say they will probably put you on Newstart Allowance which will mean you have to apply for jobs on a regular basis.

Obviously the amount can vary but I’d say you would look at around $1088 a month from Newstart and you should be able to claim rent assist of $272.40 if of course they deem you eligible.

Can I ask what makes you want to return to Australia? If you are already getting good support in the UK and benefits then it really may be worth reconsidering.

[williamc adlam 0]

I can't get UK benefits pin queen cuz aussie disability pension pin queen mate kind regards William c adlam thanks mate 

[williamc adlam 0]

Pom  queen I can't get UK benefits here in the uk thanks kind regards William c adlam thanks mate 

[williamc adlam 0]

Iam sorry the pom queen  if you had operation  i like to know a simple straight qustion could i Get my Australian Support Pension in Adlaide if i been 22 years outside of Australia? it's not rocket science just a straight question The pom Queen  answer yews or no  please really need to know the truth mate kind regards  William C Adlam in Leek Staffordshire in Uk or please email me at Madlam1967@gmail.com

[williamc adlam 0]

hello Pom Queen i don't get benefits in the uk the pom queen thanks mate kind regards william c adlam.

[williamc adlam 0]

Hello pom Queen i been told by Centrelink that i  will get my  Australian Disability Support Pension in Adlaide and I  won'y get aged pension in Australia if i lived over in Adlaide kinly regards william c adlam

[williamc adlam 0]

Hello pom Queen I like tell you that i  i don't get pharmacy prescriptions and dental treatment i have to pay for it here it will included in Adlaide kind regards william c adlam