Should Donald Trump win Nobel Peace Prize ?

[simmo 21,945]

 

 

[ssiri 2,478]

Emphatically no. Jail is looking like a possibility though….March 4th 2024 the ‘fun’ that is the American judicial proceedings, start. 

[unzippy 3,972]

On 26/08/2023 at 21:27, simmo said:

It's a maintenance issue.

You can't maintain something that you never started.

"Overall, Trump has failed to fulfill the pledges he made in his Green Bay “drain the swamp” speech. He had promised he would push Congress to pass a five-year lobbying ban into law so it could not be lifted by a future president. But he never proposed such legislation. Nor did he ask Congress to impose a similar five-year lobbying ban on its members, as he had promised he would in 2016.

In addition, he never tried to seek to “close all the loopholes” used by former government officials who get around registering as lobbyists by calling themselves “consultants” and “advisers.” And he never acted on his pledge to stop foreign lobbyists from campaign fundraising — and in fact, has benefited from their financial support."

Hope that helps

[unzippy 3,972]

On 25/08/2023 at 15:50, simmo said:

He's back on X

 

 

Never surrender?  How ironic

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[unzippy 3,972]

1 hour ago, Parley said:

 

Not much of a debate is it.  Shame he didn't have the bottle to get up on stage with the rest of them.

[Blue Manna 314]

I don't think we would have the mess that is Ukraine if trump was in power. Personally not a fan, but it would be good to have someone who knows what day of the week it is.

[unzippy 3,972]

3 hours ago, Blue Manna said:

I don't think we would have the mess that is Ukraine if trump was in power

Because..?

[unzippy 3,972]

12 hours ago, Blue Manna said:

it would be good to have someone who knows what day of the week it is.

Such as Trump?  He's only 3 years younger.  

Trump isn't demonstrably fitter than Biden. By many accounts, Trump’s physical and cognitive health is poor. He’s both elderly and obese, which puts him at greater risk of a host of mental and physical problems, including dementia, cancer and cardiovascular failure. He has evinced significant cognitive decline, saying he can’t remember notable conversations and events, and that he doesn’t know people he has clearly met.

During Trump’s presidency, some of those around him worried that he had lost his mind. Over the years he has grown less and less coherent, more paranoid, more conspiratorial. His speech is erratic, his thoughts disorganized, and he makes simple factual errors – for example, seeming to forget where his father was born. As Trump’s years in the Oval Office ticked by, the question of whether there was something neurologically wrong with him became all the more urgent.

The man says he can’t even remember saying he has one of the world’s best memories!

The default assumption now seems to be that Trump is simply lying, and indeed that might be the case (if it is, it should also be disqualifying). But either he’s lying or he’s not firing on all cylinders – or, perhaps, both.

Trump has also exhibited signs of having a serious personality disorder, and while mental health professionals are careful about weighing in on a person’s psychological state without having examined them, some have at least outlined the telltale signs and allowed the reader to draw their own conclusions. Researchers have even drawn a connection between Trump’s seeming pathological narcissism and narcissistic traits among his supporters.

[unzippy 3,972]

Speaking of old people that are past it that should be enjoying their retirement:

I hope he ok.

[Blue Manna 314]

On 31/08/2023 at 21:32, unzippy said:

Such as Trump?  He's only 3 years younger.  

Trump isn't demonstrably fitter than Biden. By many accounts, Trump’s physical and cognitive health is poor. He’s both elderly and obese, which puts him at greater risk of a host of mental and physical problems, including dementia, cancer and cardiovascular failure. He has evinced significant cognitive decline, saying he can’t remember notable conversations and events, and that he doesn’t know people he has clearly met.

During Trump’s presidency, some of those around him worried that he had lost his mind. Over the years he has grown less and less coherent, more paranoid, more conspiratorial. His speech is erratic, his thoughts disorganized, and he makes simple factual errors – for example, seeming to forget where his father was born. As Trump’s years in the Oval Office ticked by, the question of whether there was something neurologically wrong with him became all the more urgent.

The man says he can’t even remember saying he has one of the world’s best memories!

The default assumption now seems to be that Trump is simply lying, and indeed that might be the case (if it is, it should also be disqualifying). But either he’s lying or he’s not firing on all cylinders – or, perhaps, both.

Trump has also exhibited signs of having a serious personality disorder, and while mental health professionals are careful about weighing in on a person’s psychological state without having examined them, some have at least outlined the telltale signs and allowed the reader to draw their own conclusions. Researchers have even drawn a connection between Trump’s seeming pathological narcissism and narcissistic traits among his supporters.

Considering a president can be in power for 8 years, I don't think they should be allowed to run if they are over 62. It's a stressful job.

[Blue Manna 314]

On 31/08/2023 at 12:26, unzippy said:

Because..?

Trump wouldn't have poked Putin. He would have assured them that they wouldn't join NATO. Plus, trump just might have been crazy enough to nuke him.

Ukraine is a complete mess. I don't think anyone could argue that this has been in the interest of Ukraine.

Edited September 1 by Blue Manna

[Rallyman 4,104]

On 01/09/2023 at 06:32, unzippy said:

Such as Trump?  He's only 3 years younger.  

Trump isn't demonstrably fitter than Biden. By many accounts, Trump’s physical and cognitive health is poor. He’s both elderly and obese, which puts him at greater risk of a host of mental and physical problems, including dementia, cancer and cardiovascular failure. He has evinced significant cognitive decline, saying he can’t remember notable conversations and events, and that he doesn’t know people he has clearly met.

During Trump’s presidency, some of those around him worried that he had lost his mind. Over the years he has grown less and less coherent, more paranoid, more conspiratorial. His speech is erratic, his thoughts disorganized, and he makes simple factual errors – for example, seeming to forget where his father was born. As Trump’s years in the Oval Office ticked by, the question of whether there was something neurologically wrong with him became all the more urgent.

The man says he can’t even remember saying he has one of the world’s best memories!

The default assumption now seems to be that Trump is simply lying, and indeed that might be the case (if it is, it should also be disqualifying). But either he’s lying or he’s not firing on all cylinders – or, perhaps, both.

Trump has also exhibited signs of having a serious personality disorder, and while mental health professionals are careful about weighing in on a person’s psychological state without having examined them, some have at least outlined the telltale signs and allowed the reader to draw their own conclusions. Researchers have even drawn a connection between Trump’s seeming pathological narcissism and narcissistic traits among his supporters.

PIO comedy gold 

are you being serious or sarcastic 

Biden can’t put a sentence together, gets lost  on stage , the list is endless 

good spin though 

[Rallyman 4,104]

19 minutes ago, Blue Manna said:

Trump wouldn't have poked Putin. He would have assured them that they wouldn't join NATO. Plus, trump just might have been crazy enough to nuke him.

Ukraine is a complete mess. I don't think anyone could argue that this has been in the interest of Ukraine.

Don’t forget The Biden family dodgy business deals in Ukrainian, nothing to see here move along . 

 

[unzippy 3,972]

1 hour ago, Rallyman said:

PIO comedy gold 

are you being serious or sarcastic 

Biden can’t put a sentence together, gets lost  on stage , the list is endless 

good spin though 

Click on the links, it's all fact.

He's either past it or a liar - you choose

 

[unzippy 3,972]

2 hours ago, Blue Manna said:

Considering a president can be in power for 8 years, I don't think they should be allowed to run if they are over 62. It's a stressful job.

Agreed.  However in Trump's case, if he gets in he'll do a Putin and change the rules to ensure it's a job for life.  We've already seen that his ego won't let him lose.

After pardoning himself, obviously.

Edited September 1 by unzippy

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6 hours ago, Rallyman said:

are you being serious or sarcastic 

Biden can’t put a sentence together, gets lost  on stage , the list is endless 

Totally serious.   You can't say, "Biden is senile so Trump must be perfectly healthy".  It doesn't work like that. 

[simmo 21,945]

8 hours ago, Rallyman said:

Don’t forget The Biden family dodgy business deals in Ukrainian, nothing to see here move along . 

 

Shhhhhh. 

We mustn't mention that.

[Rallyman 4,104]

5 hours ago, Marisawright said:

Totally serious.   You can't say, "Biden is senile so Trump must be perfectly healthy".  It doesn't work like that. 

I never stated that  just pointed out the hypocrisy in the article about trump’s health compared to the current president. 
Add to the fact Russia gate was and has been proved the workings of the Clinton’s ,Obama knew all about it but nothing , more evidence about the Biden crime family radio silence he has done the same as Hilary using private e mail servers on dealings in Ukraine while vice president.A plea deal to let Hunter off that’s gone pear shaped but just go after trump .   Wake up and smell the coffee . 
Treat all the same , if they did most of them would be in jail. 

don’t believe everything you see in msm 

Edited September 2 by Rallyman

[Rallyman 4,104]

10 hours ago, unzippy said:

Agreed.  However in Trump's case, if he gets in he'll do a Putin and change the rules to ensure it's a job for life.  We've already seen that his ego won't let him lose.

After pardoning himself, obviously.

Not a chance would that be allowed, get real 

[Rallyman 4,104]

10 hours ago, unzippy said:

Click on the links, it's all fact.

He's either past it or a liar - you choose

 

Biden yes he’s and out and out liar all documented if you care to look and well past it 

Edited September 2 by Rallyman

[Marisawright 10,921]

29 minutes ago, Rallyman said:

Not a chance would that be allowed, get real 

Do your research. There's no law to stop him in the US.   Their laws in that area depend on assuming the people in power will do the right thing. 

[Marisawright 10,921]

29 minutes ago, Rallyman said:

Biden yes he’s and out and out liar all documented if you care to look and well past it 

Like I said, that doesn't let you off the hook.  You can't say, "Oh look over there at Biden, he's worse, so that means I don't have to admit there's anything wrong with Trump"  Hasn't it occurred to you they might be as bad as each other?

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1 hour ago, Marisawright said:

Like I said, that doesn't let you off the hook.  You can't say, "Oh look over there at Biden, he's worse, so that means I don't have to admit there's anything wrong with Trump"  Hasn't it occurred to you they might be as bad as each other?

But that’s the only option they have. These people who want to stay loyal to “their team” or “their guy”.  There’s no possible way to defend Trump. So all they are left with is whataboutism.   
 

Quite what’s so bad about saying “they are both awful” is beyond me.   I suppose it’s because in the past they’ve praised the man and it’s too hard to admit to being conned maybe?

[Rallyman 4,104]

3 hours ago, Marisawright said:

Like I said, that doesn't let you off the hook.  You can't say, "Oh look over there at Biden, he's worse, so that means I don't have to admit there's anything wrong with Trump"  Hasn't it occurred to you they might be as bad as each other?

I have stated this many times that if these are the two best candidates for the president the world is in a sorry state , but as usual it’s only trump that gets a bashing it’s hypocrisy at its best