Should Donald Trump win Nobel Peace Prize ?

[welljock 321]

3 hours ago, FirstWorldProblems said:

Creating a phantom enemy is an age old political tactic.  Tell people that someone is coming to take away their lifestyle, their liberties, their culture. Transparent to many but if you repeat it often then low-engagement voters (and the hard of thinking) will be convinced. 

“Woke” is a prime modern day example. Millions are terrified of it. None of them can define it. 
 

 

"Right Wing" is a slightly older example. 

[HappyHeart 14,320]

12 minutes ago, welljock said:

"Right Wing" is a slightly older example. 

No. 

[welljock 321]

Just now, HappyHeart said:

No. 

yes

[s713 2,065]

On 27/05/2023 at 09:55, FirstWorldProblems said:

Creating a phantom enemy is an age old political tactic.  Tell people that someone is coming to take away their lifestyle, their liberties, their culture. Transparent to many but if you repeat it often then low-engagement voters (and the hard of thinking) will be convinced. 

“Woke” is a prime modern day example. Millions are terrified of it. None of them can define it. 
 

 

They've got ordinary people arguing constantly about who's to blame, immigrants, trans, Albanians, you name it.

And all the time it's them who are fleecing people, taking their money, reducing their liberties.

It's hitting home with a more and more people all the time but not as many as you'd expect or hope.

[s713 2,065]

Roger Waters is being called out as anti-semitic for doing what he's done for 40 years i.e. The Wall.

There's a terrible sinister element to all this.

Corbyn was crucified for being anti-Israel, you can't afford to go there unfortunately. That's the US/media world we live in.

[Rallyman 4,082]

24 minutes ago, s713 said:

Roger Waters is being called out as anti-semitic for doing what he's done for 40 years i.e. The Wall.

There's a terrible sinister element to all this.

Corbyn was crucified for being anti-Israel, you can't afford to go there unfortunately. That's the US/media world we live in.

A lot of people on social media sites jump on anything that dares to question or link in a negative manner and you get labeled anti semitic even if it’s the truth. 

[s713 2,065]

15 minutes ago, Rallyman said:

A lot of people on social media sites jump on anything that dares to question or link in a negative manner and you get labeled anti semitic even if it’s the truth. 

What's the truth?

[Marisawright 10,724]

12 minutes ago, s713 said:

What's the truth?

That there is a big difference between being anti-Israel and being anti-semitic, I think.

[Parley 7,791]

2 hours ago, s713 said:

Roger Waters is being called out as anti-semitic for doing what he's done for 40 years i.e. The Wall.

There's a terrible sinister element to all this.

Corbyn was crucified for being anti-Israel, you can't afford to go there unfortunately. That's the US/media world we live in.

Anti Semitic not anti Israel.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/world/europe/jeremy-corbyn-labour-anti-semitism.html

[Rallyman 4,082]

2 hours ago, s713 said:

What's the truth?

You tell me. 

[simmo 21,836]

#huntersLaptop appears to be trending on twitter.

[InnerVoice 1,021]

On 29/05/2023 at 12:59, Parley said:

Anti Semitic not anti Israel.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/world/europe/jeremy-corbyn-labour-anti-semitism.html

They believe the anti-Semitism row was a contributing factor in Labour losing the last election, although personally I think the public just saw Corbyn as one of those relics left over from the days of the Loony Left.

[Blue Flu 1,164]

15 minutes ago, InnerVoice said:

They believe the anti-Semitism row was a contributing factor in Labour losing the last election, although personally I think the public just saw Corbyn as one of those relics left over from the days of the Loony Left.

You mean instead of one of the relics that did take power and take Britain back to pre World War 2?  Probably nothing would have changed with Brexit so neither would have my vote. I expect the Right Wing tabloids maintained some influence over the outcome. I recall in the early stages, Corbyn was of cult status with the youth. 

[Blue Flu 1,164]

On 29/05/2023 at 09:17, s713 said:

What's the truth?

Whatever you want it to be it would seem.

[unzippy 3,874]

Federally indicted, seven charges including unauthorised retention of classified files.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65852062

[simmo 21,836]

1 hour ago, unzippy said:

Federally indicted, seven charges including unauthorised retention of classified files.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65852062

Yet still nothing on Hunter's laptop?

[simmo 21,836]

1 hour ago, unzippy said:

Federally indicted, seven charges including unauthorised retention of classified files.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65852062

 

[simmo 21,836]

Funny how the Trump indictment happens on the exact same day as the Biden bribery allegations.

[FirstWorldProblems 2,058]

The decision to indict was made by a jury of ordinary Americans, but no doubt there will be a small but very vocal group of Americans screaming that Biden did it and it’s all political.  Rather than the simpler explanation that the man appears to have broken the law and any rational person would conclude there is a case to answer.

Oh, and in 2018 when Trump had Hilary in his sights (“lock her up, Loch her up”), he signed into law a bill that upgraded the mishandling of classified materials from a misdemeanour into a felony and with it the prison sentence from 1 year to 5.   Would be karmic justice if his own law got him locked up.  

[simmo 21,836]

1 hour ago, FirstWorldProblems said:

The decision to indict was made by a jury of ordinary Americans, but no doubt there will be a small but very vocal group of Americans screaming that Biden did it and it’s all political.  Rather than the simpler explanation that the man appears to have broken the law and any rational person would conclude there is a case to answer.

Oh, and in 2018 when Trump had Hilary in his sights (“lock her up, Loch her up”), he signed into law a bill that upgraded the mishandling of classified materials from a misdemeanour into a felony and with it the prison sentence from 1 year to 5.   Would be karmic justice if his own law got him locked up.  

We actually Biden did do it (take classified documents home) the difference was that he was a senitor at the time - making it illegal.  What Trump is accuesed of doing was not illegal as Presidents can declassify (senitors cant)

[InnerVoice 1,021]

1 hour ago, FirstWorldProblems said:

The decision to indict was made by a jury of ordinary Americans, but no doubt there will be a small but very vocal group of Americans screaming that Biden did it and it’s all political.  Rather than the simpler explanation that the man appears to have broken the law and any rational person would conclude there is a case to answer.

Oh, and in 2018 when Trump had Hilary in his sights (“lock her up, Loch her up”), he signed into law a bill that upgraded the mishandling of classified materials from a misdemeanour into a felony and with it the prison sentence from 1 year to 5.   Would be karmic justice if his own law got him locked up.  

The mills of God grind slowly but surely so divine retribution is only around the corner for Donnie, although instant karma would also be great so the rest of us can enjoy it.

[unzippy 3,874]

3 hours ago, FirstWorldProblems said:

The decision to indict was made by a jury of ordinary Americans, but no doubt there will be a small but very vocal group of Americans screaming that Biden did it and it’s all political.  Rather than the simpler explanation that the man appears to have broken the law and any rational person would conclude there is a case to answer.

Oh, and in 2018 when Trump had Hilary in his sights (“lock her up, Loch her up”), he signed into law a bill that upgraded the mishandling of classified materials from a misdemeanour into a felony and with it the prison sentence from 1 year to 5.   Would be karmic justice if his own law got him locked up.  

Quite right.  As my great mate @Parleysays "applying the law isn't a witch hunt" (or something similar).

[unzippy 3,874]

On tape and knowingly recorded:

 

“As president, I could have declassified, but now I can’t,” 

“Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this,” Trump says at one point, according to the transcript. “This was done by the military and given to me.” 

“They presented me this – this is off the record, but – they presented me this. This was him. This was the Defense Department and him. We looked at some. This was him. This wasn’t done by me, this was him.” 

Trump continues: “All sorts of stuff – pages long, look. Wait a minute, let’s see here. I just found, isn’t that amazing? This totally wins my case, you know. Except it is like, highly confidential. Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this.” 

 

 

[FirstWorldProblems 2,058]

His lawyers 

 

[Blue Flu 1,164]

2 hours ago, FirstWorldProblems said:

His lawyers 

 

Must obviously consider his innocence cannot warrant the massive legal fees being charged.