Chickbock Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 I see now. The signatures do not appear in the App (or at least not in mine) I just looked on the desktop site... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickbock Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Thanks for your help rammy. I have contacted@wrussell via his website pinoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber Snowball Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Chickbock said: Thanks for your help rammy. I have contacted@wrussell via his website pinoy Good luck. It’s one of those areas that raises alot of debate, but if the law in the UK says it is ok then Australia will recognise that. There are other threads on here for a slightly different issue that I have personal experience of and that is removing a young child where the father isn’t on the birth certificate ( hence I queried that earlier) and that also raises much debate and opinion! I think there have been so many horror stories involving the Hague Convention and associated court cases that no one here would want anyone to ge caught up in it if they could avoid it. Westly Russell appears to know his stuff so you should be in safe hands. All the best. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 For no charge, I emailed the following regulations to the OP, as well as various other information and advice: Each member of the family unit of the applicant who: (a) is an applicant for a Subclass xxx visa; and (b) has not turned 18; satisfies public interest criteria 4015 and 4016. 4015: The Minister is satisfied of 1 of the following: (a) the law of the additional applicant’s home country permits the removal of the additional applicant; (b) each person who can lawfully determine where the additional applicant is to live consents to the grant of the visa; (c) the grant of the visa would be consistent with any Australian child order in force in relation to the additional applicant. I have obtained visas for numerous children (including my own) without the consent of the non custodial parent or a court odder. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickbock Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Thanks@wrussell I have not received the email but I will be looking to use your services going forward. I have PM’d you with my email address as I may have typed it wrong on your website. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I think @wrussell has got you covered on this, but some members didn’t need a court order just a stat dec off the father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickbock Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Thanks Pom queen. I’m no where near that stage just yet. I haven’t done a skills assessment. I am just getting all of my ducks in a row. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 IIRC and the father is happy to sign the forms giving consent, there may not be a need to take it up and go to court for leave to remove. Some parents are ok with signing to allow children to move overseas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monks Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I have a 16 year old boy, wasn’t married to the father but is on the birth certificate. He does not have parental responsibility as we were unmarried and he was born before fathers had automatic parental responsibility which came into effect in Dec 2003. As he does not have parental responsibility I did not have to seek his permission to take my son to Australia. In order to prove this I obtained a stat Dec from a solicitor quoting the law and confirming he did not have parental responsibility. His father didn’t realise that this was the case and was of the understanding that I required his permission. Eventually he decided to sign the 1229 form which I asked him to sign to make things easier. After I submitted the 1229, immigration rang his father to check that he gave his permission. Now I’m unsure whether they would have just accepted the stat Dec from the solicitor or became suspicious that I submitted a stat Dec then the 1229 shortly after and wanted to make sure it wasn’t me that forged the fathers signature on the 1229 form. I’m not sure whether you were married or not but that’s my experience. We were granted our visas in Feb. Good luck with the process ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickbock Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 The father does have parental responsibility.... we have not asked him yet but pretty much know he will say no. However wrussell states it is not needed anyway as at 16 she can live where she wants under Uk law. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monks Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Thats exactly what I thought about my sons father as we’re not civil with each other but initially he refused to give his permission, then he changed his mind so I quickly got the form signed submitted it and then he changed his mind again! I didnt actually need his permission I just wanted him to sign the form to make the process less complicated. My sons grandparents (ex’s parents) became involved and I think tried to convince him that his son would have a much better life and that it was an amazing opportunity for him and not to stand in his way as he was nearly an adult. It worked as I got the form signed but then he changed his mind again. That’s good news then, I hope the process isn’t too stressful for you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickbock Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 I’m no where near there yet. I need to have my skills assessed first! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 On 2/05/2018 at 04:32, Chickbock said: I’m no where near there yet. I need to have my skills assessed first! Lol As the visa process can be a long one - you'll need to ensure that they remain in education after leaving school as this is the easiest to prove their dependency on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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