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54 minutes ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

Discredit bojo, we can just leave that for him to do all on his own

That's fine , and if that's the case ,let it pan out , and we will find out for ourselves .

We can then class him as the tories version of diane abbott or emily thornberry .

Time will tell 

 

 

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BUT I DONT FEEL AFRAID

AS LONG AS I GAZE AT

WATERLOO SUNSET

IAM IN PARADISE

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1 hour ago, kungfustu said:

I think you will find most mainstream political groups echo those sentiments......the problems arise when it all has to be paid for.....now thats where the differences come in to play......another topic altogether.....how does socialism pay for itself.....a quick glance back at the history books reveals all.....

You are having a laugh aren't you, UKIP, the Tories, Salvini's party, Orbans party, fidesz, the Australian  Liberals (now there's a oxymoron for you) with their offshore immigrant camps, the Home Office let this refugee die of cancer rather than sanction treatment, well I suppose you have to actually read more than the right wing press..

It's o/k just hang onto your belief that everything is fine,  just keep your eyes averted from evil 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/19/asylum-seeker-denied-cancer-treatment-nhs-home-office-hostile-environment

Funny how the Nordic countries, Germany, France, Netherlands, Denmark, Baltic States and Spain all treat their citizens better than our govt does and how they were happy to pay for it until people were promised tax cuts  but not told that social cohesiveness would splinter and services would be cut and the worm of xenophobia was planted into their ears and minds by the right

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2 hours ago, bunbury61 said:

Borders are important - very important .

This will be freedom of movement , but the people will be vetted , coming to jobs that are in demand .

Unlike the current situation where we have a plethora of car washers, tatters and people to empty our skips of metal .

E.u passports being given out like confetti at a wedding 

It's a bloody free for all 

Vetted? Do you not understand what freedom of movement means? I'll help you. Say it slowly out loud.

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2 hours ago, bunbury61 said:

Trolling again nj .

It's got everything to do with brexit .

Anything to discredit the pm , as we get closer to brexit .

If he was a concerned father in a hospital , he would be at his child's bedside .

Not being used as a front by the labour party to discredit the p.m 

Keep up 

 

This is about Tory austerity, unless you are saying brexit has destroyed the NHS. And your comments about the father are frankly quite disgusting. Having just been in an understaffed children's ward and having to help the nurses out as much as possible, I know where he is coming from. You should be ashamed of your comments.

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1 hour ago, kungfustu said:

I think you will find most mainstream political groups echo those sentiments......the problems arise when it all has to be paid for.....now thats where the differences come in to play......another topic altogether.....how does socialism pay for itself.....a quick glance back at the history books reveals all.....

Would you like to explore that with one of the socialist Scandinavian countries.

Possibly we could tax Google. Except, with brexit, the USA won't let us do that. So much for sovereignty.

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2 hours ago, bunbury61 said:

None of it .

But if you are apparently a concerned father , in hospital with a sick child , your child should be priority 1 , 2 and 3 .

Not leaving the childs bedside to harass the p.m , knowing it will be picked up by the media .

WHAT A PRICK !

Another own goal iam afraid 

You're comments are disgraceful. You should really be ashamed of yourself.

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1 hour ago, newjez said:

Vetted? Do you not understand what freedom of movement means? I'll help you. Say it slowly out loud.

Of course I do 

But it's the unrestricted , un vetted , uncontrolled free movement that has got us into this mess - or dont you follow the news .

Shall we spell this in big letters .

TERRORIST ATTACKS 

DRUGS 

CRIME 

PROSTITUTION 

And many more 

The fact that you can travel across western Europe without being checked IS the problem .

READ IT SLOWLY NOW , MY OPINION , AND THAT OF MANY OTHERS , ISNT GOING TO CHANGE .

 

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IAM IN PARADISE

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5 minutes ago, bunbury61 said:

Of course I do 

But it's the unrestricted , un vetted , uncontrolled free movement that has got us into this mess - or dont you follow the news .

Shall we spell this in big letters .

TERRORIST ATTACKS 

DRUGS 

CRIME 

PROSTITUTION 

And many more 

The fact that you can travel across western Europe without being checked IS the problem .

READ IT SLOWLY NOW , MY OPINION , AND THAT OF MANY OTHERS , ISNT GOING TO CHANGE .

 

We are talking about freedom of movement with Australia. Are you sure you are on the same page?

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I do think the French have provided a word to counter remoaner.

Euroseptic.

Love it.

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3 hours ago, newjez said:

This is about Tory austerity, unless you are saying brexit has destroyed the NHS. And your comments about the father are frankly quite disgusting. Having just been in an understaffed children's ward and having to help the nurses out as much as possible, I know where he is coming from. You should be ashamed of your comments.

Which hospital was this , and what were you doing to assist nurses out ? 

 

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7 hours ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

And pray tell me what is so wrong with socialism just tell me which of its tenets you do not agree with.

Equality

Care for the disadvantaged

Respect for other humans

Respect for the rights of others as you wish your rights to be respected

Tell me which of those offends you so greatly

Nothing wrong with what you say about socialism, imho the Guy jumped at the chance for some political posturing.

The start of good things

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49230461 hopefully more to follow 

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9 hours ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

And pray tell me what is so wrong with socialism just tell me which of its tenets you do not agree with.

Equality

Care for the disadvantaged

Respect for other humans

Respect for the rights of others as you wish your rights to be respected

Tell me which of those offends you so greatly

Go and live in socialist country like China or Cuba for a few years and see how you like it.


I want it all, and I want it now.

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6 minutes ago, Parley said:

Go and live in socialist country like China or Cuba for a few years and see how you like it.

Judging by the number of Chinese students driving around Canberra in Mercedes, Audis and BMWs I'd say they do alright.

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1 hour ago, Peach said:

Judging by the number of Chinese students driving around Canberra in Mercedes, Audis and BMWs I'd say they do alright.

There is a big wealth gap over there as well. How can you mention the 100 rich(er) Chinese people you saw and then extrapolate that to everyone in china. What are the chances a poor person (a huge percentage) from china is coming to Australia? Don't you think that skews your opinion?

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Lived in Perth for 18 months. Pingponging back in Juli '15!

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2 minutes ago, FOL said:

There is a big wealth gap over there as well. How can you mention the 100 rich(er) Chinese people you saw and then extrapolate that to everyone in china. What are the chances a poor person (a huge percentage) from china is coming to Australia? Don't you think that skews your opinion?

Was just trying to lighthearted, in an otherwise miserable thread....

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8 minutes ago, Peach said:

Was just trying to lighthearted, in an otherwise miserable thread....

Good luck with that Peach.  😉

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5 hours ago, Parley said:

Go and live in socialist country like China or Cuba for a few years and see how you like it.

Neither of those is socialist. You couldn't even call China Communist. Try Sweden.

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4 hours ago, FOL said:

There is a big wealth gap over there as well. How can you mention the 100 rich(er) Chinese people you saw and then extrapolate that to everyone in china. What are the chances a poor person (a huge percentage) from china is coming to Australia? Don't you think that skews your opinion?

That sort of implies China is not socialist. Do you get free medical, unemployment, pensions in China?

Free education is socialist.

Knock that down.

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1 hour ago, newjez said:

Neither of those is socialist. You couldn't even call China Communist. Try Sweden.

Sweden isn't socialist.

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1 hour ago, newjez said:

That sort of implies China is not socialist. Do you get free medical, unemployment, pensions in China?

Free education is socialist.

Knock that down.

They are not free. 

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Remainers seem to be filled with hate.

Read the thread, it's shocking the remain camp (not all)

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56 minutes ago, Parley said:

Self declaration is meaningless.  We had a Taoiseach in Ireland who declared himself to be a socialist to howls of laughter from the left wing parties at the time.

Stalinist Russia was "communist" in name but an autocratic dictatorship in reality.

Btw, I would not consider myself a socialist.

Anyway, back on topic.

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