What is wrong with Perth? Nothing. I could live here as easy as i live in Sydney

[starlight7]

I think it is high time a few towns between SA and Perth were developed- some very pretty areas round the coast could be extended and if we had an ounce of get up and go some of the desert areas could be developed.  Perhaps we should ship in a few people from Dubai?

[ali]

1 hour ago, Marisawright said:

Clever of you to pick Tenerife and ignore all the other, MUCH closer resorts you can visit from the UK.   So it's not a fair comparison, is it?  

Having said that, it's not the remoteness that bothers me about Perth.   The thing about Australia, for me, is that I have such an interesting life that I rarely bother to go on holiday, so I don't much care how far away places are.  But that's the thing with Perth - it's quieter.   I like theatre, shows, dance classes, art, music, writers' groups, etc etc.  All those things do happen in Perth, but much less so than Sydney or Melbourne.  A lot of shows never make it to Perth because it's too expensive to transport the show all that way (and I'm in the business, so I know this for a fact).   That's why I prefer Sydney or Melbourne, because they give me the luxury of choice.

I think Tenerife was used as a comparison in the length of flight from the UK (not ignoring all the other places in between).

It's horses for courses really isn't it and personal preference - I've never fully understood why people take such an interest/delight in putting down Perth.  It's not for everyone, but for those of us who like it here it's great .. and we're not boring or lead unfulfilling lives.

[Toots]

10 minutes ago, ali said:

I think Tenerife was used as a comparison in the length of flight from the UK (not ignoring all the other places in between).

It's horses for courses really isn't it and personal preference - I've never fully understood why people take such an interest/delight in putting down Perth.  It's not for everyone, but for those of us who like it here it's great .. and we're not boring or lead unfulfilling lives.

So many people on this forum go on and on about Perth being boring etc etc.  Stuff 'em I say.  If they don't like the place well move somewhere else.  

[Drumbeat]

13 minutes ago, Toots said:

So many people on this forum go on and on about Perth being boring etc etc.  Stuff 'em I say.  If they don't like the place well move somewhere else.  

I'm working on it 

[lothar]

My wife and I have applied for our 189, and hoping to get a grant in the next month or two.

I like open spaces and remoteness so going by this thread Perth is a clear choice

 

 

 

[starlight7]

Maybe it depends on what you were brought up with. I was a Londoner and find Perth is just not a place I could settle in. Too different maybe? Not to say Melbourne is like London, it isn't but I found more of what I feel comfortable with here.

[lothar]

19 minutes ago, starlight7 said:

Maybe it depends on what you were brought up with. I was a Londoner and find Perth is just not a place I could settle in. Too different maybe? Not to say Melbourne is like London, it isn't but I found more of what I feel comfortable with here.

Yeah, I believe it is what you were brought up with.

My wife and I are originally from the center of South Africa, pretty much nothing goes on there, most people don't even know it exists. I spent most of my time fishing and camping as a kid.

We have lived in London for the past 10 years. I have loved my time here, and I am glad we tried it for the experience. Definitely the capital of the world in my opinion, but now that we have kids we would like to go back to a quieter, more outdoor lifestyle.

I have friends in Perth who moved there 5 years ago, they come from the same town as me in SA and they are loving it there.

Although saying that I have been to Melbourne, and it is also awesome.

Edited January 29, 2018 by lothar
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[Drumbeat]

1 hour ago, lothar said:

My wife and I have applied for our 189, and hoping to get a grant in the next month or two.

I like open spaces and remoteness so going by this thread Perth is a clear choice

 

 

 

Perth does have a lot going for it. If you love getting out into the bush there's plenty of that and the Kimberley region is amazing. I'm just loving the heat less as I get older and ready to go elsewhere - but I do tend to be a bit restless by nature.

[AJ]

4 hours ago, Marisawright said:

Clever of you to pick Tenerife and ignore all the other, MUCH closer resorts you can visit from the UK.   So it's not a fair comparison, is it?  

 

 

No not clever at all, only picked a place that I have been a few times, so stop trying to shit stir!

[Toots]

2 hours ago, lothar said:

My wife and I have applied for our 189, and hoping to get a grant in the next month or two.

I like open spaces and remoteness so going by this thread Perth is a clear choice

I had never lived in a town never mind a city until I was 24 years old and worked in London for a year and hated it.  I enjoy it for a visit now though.  We lived in Sydney for many years but I escaped as often as possible to friends' place on the other side of the Blue Mountains.  We also lived in Perth close to a lovely beach for approx 3 years and it enjoyed it very much.  Some of us are city dwellers and love that lifestyle but others like me prefer open spaces and no crowds.

 

 

 

 

[bristolman]

If you like Perth then there is nothing wrong with it. Personally it does nothing for me at all and is far too isolated and hot but that doesn't mean others can't enjoy it. It would be a pretty ordinary world if we all liked the same things. 

[Marisawright]

9 hours ago, AJ said:

No not clever at all, only picked a place that I have been a few times, so stop trying to shit stir!

Not shit stirring, just pointing out that it's not a fair comparison.   Yes, people are prepared to take the longer flight to go to Tenerife, but they have the CHOICE of a lot of other interesting holiday destinations which are much closer.  That's not the case with Perth - everywhere requires a longer flight.   Also, the flights to those destinations from the UK are much cheaper.  So for people who like to go away on holiday frequently, the distance IS a problem.   

And that's the point. 

There are people in this world who like to holiday frequently and for them, Perth is going to feel isolated.   They have every right to feel that way.

There are people for whom the distance doesn't matter - they can afford the fares, or they've got the time, or they're not interested in travelling.  That's fine too.

There are people like me who find Perth too quiet, and prefer the bustle of Sydney or Melbourne. They have every right to feel that way.

There are people who find the bigger cities too frenetic, and enjoy the calm of Perth. That's fine too. 

Edited January 29, 2018 by Marisawright

[ali]

31 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

Not shit stirring, just pointing out that it's not a fair comparison.   Yes, people are prepared to take the longer flight to go to Tenerife, but they have the CHOICE of a lot of other interesting holiday destinations which are much closer.  That's not the case with Perth - everywhere requires a longer flight.   Also, the flights to those destinations from the UK are much cheaper.  So for people who like to go away on holiday frequently, the distance IS a problem.   

And that's the point. 

There are people in this world who like to holiday frequently and for them, Perth is going to feel isolated.   They have every right to feel that way.

There are people for whom the distance doesn't matter - they can afford the fares, or they've got the time, or they're not interested in travelling.  That's fine too.

There are people like me who find Perth too quiet, and prefer the bustle of Sydney or Melbourne. They have every right to feel that way.

There are people who find the bigger cities too frenetic, and enjoy the calm of Perth. That's fine too. 

My question is though - why do people on this forum constantly feel the need to say they couldn't live there?  There are lots of places that here and abroad that I like but wouldn't want to live - but I don't have the need to keep saying it every time the place is mentioned or with a negative context which seems to undermine the people that do live there?

[Toots]

8 minutes ago, ali said:

My question is though - why do people on this forum constantly feel the need to say they couldn't live there?  There are lots of places that here and abroad that I like but wouldn't want to live - but I don't have the need to keep saying it every time the place is mentioned or with a negative context which seems to undermine the people that do live there?

Well that's just it Ali.  They, for whatever reason get pleasure out of undermining where some members enjoy living.  I reckon some of the folk on this forum would be a psychiatrists dream come true.  
 

[starlight7]

I guess the reason people say they couldn't live there is because they couldn't.  Doesn't mean it is a bad place.  I couldn't live in Mildura, either but some love it. I enjoy the differences of opinion- don't do 'bland' I'm afraid.

[ali]

6 hours ago, starlight7 said:

I guess the reason people say they couldn't live there is because they couldn't.  Doesn't mean it is a bad place.  I couldn't live in Mildura, either but some love it. I enjoy the differences of opinion- don't do 'bland' I'm afraid.

I get that Starlight .. but every time the places is mentioned?

[simmo]

I suppose you learn what type of person could or could not live in a place and make a judgement based on what people you relate to more.

It's not a bad thing surely.

[s713]

I get the isolation thing as an excuse to charge more or cover bad services. But geographically, I don't feel isolated, where would I be going? We have offices in all the major cities and, whenever we meet up, everyone flies in, regardless of where we're meeting. It's not like everyone else walks it apart from me. The flight takes a bit longer, no-one dies or anything.

[ali]

On ‎30‎/‎01‎/‎2018 at 18:09, simmo said:

I suppose you learn what type of person could or could not live in a place and make a judgement based on what people you relate to more.

It's not a bad thing surely.

How do you really know though if you've never lived there?  I couldn't assume to tell someone if they'd love/hate London for example.  How do we know what type of people will like a place - certainly the forum deals very much with stereotypes .. if posts on PIO are to be believed you'll only like Perth if you're old, not interested in anything other than and never socialise outside your backyard lol

[Toots]

45 minutes ago, ali said:

How do you really know though if you've never lived there?  I couldn't assume to tell someone if they'd love/hate London for example.  How do we know what type of people will like a place - certainly the forum deals very much with stereotypes .. if posts on PIO are to be believed you'll only like Perth if you're old, not interested in anything other than and never socialise outside your backyard lol

It's a long time since we lived in Perth but I have to say every visitor we had staying from the UK including my close family and sister in law (when she was in her very early 20's) thought it was a lovely place.  They loved the weather and always commented on how clean and bright the city was and that is also how I remember it too.  

[Paul1Perth]

On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 10:43, Bulya said:

That’s right you can’t get anywhere unless you fly.  Everything major in Australia is on the East coast, the West is very isolated 

Apart from all those lovely towns and places to visit down South. Margaret River, Augusta, Albany, Denmark, Esperance. That's without mentioning any places inland as 20 minutes away from a beach is 15 minutes too far IMO.

All without thinking about passports, planes, airports, hanging around. Just get the car packed and go.

Probably the same going North but a bit further to get to Kalbarri I guess. Been once and thought the gorges were terrific.

[Paul1Perth]

On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 15:54, Marisawright said:

Clever of you to pick Tenerife and ignore all the other, MUCH closer resorts you can visit from the UK.   So it's not a fair comparison, is it?  

Having said that, it's not the remoteness that bothers me about Perth.   The thing about Australia, for me, is that I have such an interesting life that I rarely bother to go on holiday, so I don't much care how far away places are.  But that's the thing with Perth - it's quieter.   I like theatre, shows, dance classes, art, music, writers' groups, etc etc.  All those things do happen in Perth, but much less so than Sydney or Melbourne.  A lot of shows never make it to Perth because it's too expensive to transport the show all that way (and I'm in the business, so I know this for a fact).   That's why I prefer Sydney or Melbourne, because they give me the luxury of choice.

Funny you should say that about not being bothered about holidays.

That's why we picked Perth as it was compared to the Algarve when we were emigrating. We had a timeshare on the Algarve and had said many times if we had been able to speak Portuguese we would have moved there.

Perth and the suburb we live in have everything we love about living day to day and we don't hanker after holidays like we used to in the UK. It's all here.

Admittedly not that bothered about theater, shows, dance classes but there are lots about if I was.

Off to see Roger Wayers in a couple of weeks, recently saw Stevie Nicks and The Pretenders, member of an excellent blues club that has live acts every week. 

Good thing about when shows do come they come to Perth so we never have to travel far to see them.

[Paul1Perth]

On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 17:35, starlight7 said:

I think it is high time a few towns between SA and Perth were developed- some very pretty areas round the coast could be extended and if we had an ounce of get up and go some of the desert areas could be developed.  Perhaps we should ship in a few people from Dubai?

When we came in 92 the freeway stopped at Hepburn Ave and the trains didn't exist. 

Now there's suburbs and developments North and South for kms.

It's happening slowly. There's only so much money to go around and Elizabeth Quay cost a fortune.

What's so good about Dubai BTW?

[Marisawright]

37 minutes ago, Paul1Perth said:

Funny you should say that about not being bothered about holidays.

That's why we picked Perth as it was compared to the Algarve when we were emigrating. We had a timeshare on the Algarve and had said many times if we had been able to speak Portuguese we would have moved there.

Perth and the suburb we live in have everything we love about living day to day and we don't hanker after holidays like we used to in the UK. It's all here.

Admittedly not that bothered about theater, shows, dance classes but there are lots about if I was.

Exactly my point.   For my early years in Sydney, I felt like I was on holiday every single weekend, so who needs a holiday?  Melbourne is turning out pretty good as well. Sounds like you've hit the jackpot in Perth, too. 

You say "there are lots" of theatre, shows, and dance classes in Perth - but you say you're not bothered about them, so how do you know?  Yes there are shows and dance classes - but there aren't as many as Sydney or Melbourne, so therefore there's a lot less choice. It's a fact and there's good reasons for it.  That just means Perth doesn't suit me, but there's lots of people (like yourself) for whom it doesn't matter.      

[Paul1Perth]

12 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

Exactly my point.   For my early years in Sydney, I felt like I was on holiday every single weekend, so who needs a holiday?  Melbourne is turning out pretty good as well. Sounds like you've hit the jackpot in Perth, too. 

You say "there are lots" of theatre, shows, and dance classes in Perth - but you say you're not bothered about them, so how do you know?  Yes there are shows and dance classes - but there aren't as many as Sydney or Melbourne, so therefore there's a lot less choice. It's a fact and there's good reasons for it.  That just means Perth doesn't suit me, but there's lots of people (like yourself) for whom it doesn't matter.      

I know because I see them advertised and get emails from ticketek. As well as getting the Fringe Festival magazine, Perth Festival, outdoor movies programs etc.