The Official Weather Thread

[simmo 21,949]

8 hours ago, beketamun said:

A lack of investment into infrastructure is the only problem, the other two reasons are untrue.

It rains for 1 day in 3 on average in the UK and there is ample water to support a much bigger population. 

The problem is that it's not managed well and is allowed to drain away untapped, plus culturally there is ignorance. How many people have water tanks in their gardens to collect run-off? Not many i'd guess.....a 1500 litre tank is about 300 quid, no hosepipe ban then.

Inefficient management of water is a big problem in the UK.  Population density is also a misnomer...I believe you're in Kent?  Less than 500 people per sq km?  That is not dense by any measure, it's just bad planning.

 

Correct. We are building 100s of 1000s if homes in the UK to house a ballooning population. It's over 300,000 a year since 2001 probably much more if you factor in illegals.

Who are you to say what is dense? What's the density where you are?

[GrandpaGrumble 152]

On 08/08/2022 at 15:07, simmo said:

I know I get easily confused but does global warming cause more or less typhoons?

According to the links in your screenshot, it causes fewer but more intense typhoons.

The third link says "The conventional wisdom is that storm intensity will increase but storm frequency will either decrease or remain unchanged", but according to the more recent research referred to in the first link it's looking more like decreasing than remaining unchanged.

[Cup Final 1973 401]

23 hours ago, beketamun said:

A lack of investment into infrastructure is the only problem, the other two reasons are untrue.

It rains for 1 day in 3 on average in the UK and there is ample water to support a much bigger population. 

The problem is that it's not managed well and is allowed to drain away untapped, plus culturally there is ignorance. How many people have water tanks in their gardens to collect run-off? Not many i'd guess.....a 1500 litre tank is about 300 quid, no hosepipe ban then.

Inefficient management of water is a big problem in the UK.  Population density is also a misnomer...I believe you're in Kent?  Less than 500 people per sq km?  That is not dense by any measure, it's just bad planning.

 

The problem is that this year has seen very little rain both in the UK and across Europe.  In Germany the Rhine is at such a low level that barges can no longer travel on it.  Some reservoirs in southern Spain are at just 12% capacity.  We all need to value our water more.

[beketamun 594]

1 hour ago, Cup Final 1973 said:

The problem is that this year has seen very little rain both in the UK and across Europe.  In Germany the Rhine is at such a low level that barges can no longer travel on it.  Some reservoirs in southern Spain are at just 12% capacity.  We all need to value our water more.

Absolutely !  You must have seen the adverts over here each year advertising holiday cruises on the Rhine or Danube...I bet a load of Aussies are over there now looking at 12 inches of water.   You cannot rely on rivers, they're seasonal and depend on rainfall or melting.

There was a 7 yr drought over here in the SE until about 2012, people couldn't wash their cars and water was very scarce and rules were very strict....ornamental gardens basically died forever and the whole culture changed to water preservation, native planting etc.   They used to have a 2 week "Spring Relief" to let people wash their cars and clean off the dust....otherwise people would park their cars outside when a shower was forecast and run out with a cloth to clean the windows with rainwater. 

Triickle irrigation is everywhere in gardens and water preservation is very advanced now, all new houses need big water tanks and pumps are used for outdoor use rather than tapwater.

They built a much bigger dam wall and expanded the reservoir which is now full and gives water security for 9 years from 100%, including for target population growth. 

UK needs to do the same if they cannot guarantee water supply.....or, they just carry on ignoring it and expect to moan when it runs out every few years.

http://www.bom.gov.au/water/dashboards/#/water-storages/summary/state

 

[Bulya 2,863]

11 hours ago, beketamun said:

Absolutely !  You must have seen the adverts over here each year advertising holiday cruises on the Rhine or Danube...I bet a load of Aussies are over there now looking at 12 inches of water.   You cannot rely on rivers, they're seasonal and depend on rainfall or melting.

There was a 7 yr drought over here in the SE until about 2012, people couldn't wash their cars and water was very scarce and rules were very strict....ornamental gardens basically died forever and the whole culture changed to water preservation, native planting etc.   They used to have a 2 week "Spring Relief" to let people wash their cars and clean off the dust....otherwise people would park their cars outside when a shower was forecast and run out with a cloth to clean the windows with rainwater. 

Triickle irrigation is everywhere in gardens and water preservation is very advanced now, all new houses need big water tanks and pumps are used for outdoor use rather than tapwater.

They built a much bigger dam wall and expanded the reservoir which is now full and gives water security for 9 years from 100%, including for target population growth. 

UK needs to do the same if they cannot guarantee water supply.....or, they just carry on ignoring it and expect to moan when it runs out every few years.

http://www.bom.gov.au/water/dashboards/#/water-storages/summary/state

 

Not sure if you were here when they proposed the new Cotter dam but it was laughed at.  They don’t laugh now that it’s completed and full…

[Perthbum 5,725]

On 11/08/2022 at 22:35, beketamun said:

A lack of investment into infrastructure is the only problem, the other two reasons are untrue.

It rains for 1 day in 3 on average in the UK and there is ample water to support a much bigger population. 

The problem is that it's not managed well and is allowed to drain away untapped, plus culturally there is ignorance. How many people have water tanks in their gardens to collect run-off? Not many i'd guess.....a 1500 litre tank is about 300 quid, no hosepipe ban then.

Inefficient management of water is a big problem in the UK.  Population density is also a misnomer...I believe you're in Kent?  Less than 500 people per sq km?  That is not dense by any measure, it's just bad planning.

 

The UK is not prepared for these long hot summers that look like they will become the norm in the coming decades, we are not set up like say spain is to manage the heat, it is going to be a long time to bring us up scratch with this heat and sun

[beketamun 594]

On 13/08/2022 at 20:45, Bulya said:

Not sure if you were here when they proposed the new Cotter dam but it was laughed at.  They don’t laugh now that it’s completed and full…

No, we arrived in 2012 just before the "official" end of the drought, there was pretty solid rain for about 4 days and it smashed the unfinished dam walls and washed away all the site construction.  Many of our early friends here were young Irish people working on the dam project who'd escaped Ireland after the GFC, they got an extra year's work out of the delay and the pay was tremendous....set them up for their futures.  A few are still here now, most have remained in Australia somewhere.

 

 

[Perthbum 5,725]

They promised rain and we got all exited......not a drop in startford, hope we have some soon my garden is looking like a desert

[Bulya 2,863]

14 hours ago, beketamun said:

No, we arrived in 2012 just before the "official" end of the drought, there was pretty solid rain for about 4 days and it smashed the unfinished dam walls and washed away all the site construction.  Many of our early friends here were young Irish people working on the dam project who'd escaped Ireland after the GFC, they got an extra year's work out of the delay and the pay was tremendous....set them up for their futures.  A few are still here now, most have remained in Australia somewhere.

 

 

We went out there to have a look.  There is or was a time delay video of the water coming up.  Strange for what is normally a very dry area. 

[Cup Final 1973 401]

On 15/08/2022 at 22:16, Perthbum said:

They promised rain and we got all exited......not a drop in startford, hope we have some soon my garden is looking like a desert

We’ve been promised rain for 2 days….it finally arrived in Yorkshire at 6pm.  A torrential downpour which is still pelting down more than 4 hours later.  Wonderful!

[Tulip1 4,906]

On 15/08/2022 at 22:16, Perthbum said:

They promised rain and we got all exited......not a drop in startford, hope we have some soon my garden is looking like a desert

Not a drop where I am either. 

[simmo 21,949]

Woke up by the rain. 

Glorious rain!

[simmo 21,949]

As a bit of respite from the constant Britain bashing going on on another thread....

The nights are starting to draw in and it's a bit darker in the mornings here which means our antipodean friends will be experiencing the first signs of spring. I hope you get to enjoy a summer as good as the one we just had.  

So far the good weather continues here but it won't be long until I get my little foraging bag out and go mushroom hunting.

[simmo 21,949]

https://clintel.org/world-climate-declaration/

 

[simmo 21,949]

temps have noticibly dropped this morning. 

[simmo 21,949]

22° and sunny. Nearly November!

[Bulya 2,863]

Wet and cold.  Not normal November weather 

[simmo 21,949]

We've had a couple of days of rain and the temperature is down to single figures at night.

It's been quite persistent all night so likely to be localised flooding.

 

[Cup Final 1973 401]

On 17/11/2022 at 05:33, simmo said:

We've had a couple of days of rain and the temperature is down to single figures at night.

It's been quite persistent all night so likely to be localised flooding.

 

Yes we are now having the November I remember from before we moved to Australia - little daylight, drizzle and grey skies.  Still not particularly cold during the day though.

[Toots 12,310]

Summer time here but the weather isn't very warm yet.  20C today.  Last week the hottest place on the mainland was 44C.  It was 18C on the same day here in Tassie.

[ramot 7,093]

Dec 1st the temperature here on the Sunshine Coast was 15’    I put the aircon on at 24’ warm. 

Dec 6th the temperature here on the Sunshine Coast was 34’    I put the aircon on at 24’ cold

 

[Bulya 2,863]

29C and air-con on cool and now 12.9C and switched to heating.  Mid December and snowing up in the mountains.  

[Bobj 10,329]

4AM and 25C, here in downtown Ball Bay, heading for 33C. Same as the last couple of days. Lovely warm, humid weather. Lounge air-con set at 26C and the bedroom air-con set at 25C

Just PERFECT

Cheers, Bobj.

[Parley 7,920]

Cold and p15ssing down in Melbourne this morning.

Worst summer i've ever experienced in Melbourne.

Global warming is such BS. We had no days over 30 at all in spring this year, and summer so far has just been cold wet weather constantly.

[FirstWorldProblems 2,142]

1 hour ago, Parley said:

Cold and p15ssing down in Melbourne this morning.

Worst summer i've ever experienced in Melbourne.

Global warming is such BS. We had no days over 30 at all in spring this year, and summer so far has just been cold wet weather constantly.

You are describing weather rather than climate.  Weather is the short term atmospheric condition. Climate is the average weather in a specific region measured over longer periods of time. 

Global Warming is something of a misnomer. Whilst the average temperature of the world might indeed be rising, the impact of that is better described as Climate Change. Climate change means more extremes.  

 

 

Edited December 13, 2022 by FirstWorldProblems