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I experienced the NHS in two different modes yesterday. My GP wanted me to be tested for my asthma and four weeks ago to the day referred me to respiratory. I had the appointment yesterday morning. The hospital was modern, spotless and very nice. Arrived 10:58 for 11am. Was seen at 11:05. Had the tests by a very nice professional lady (medical physiologist). Results will be with my GP in days. Couldn't ask for a better service using private. 

Yesterday afternoon I had a dental check. New dentist and no hassle getting an appointment. Very nice dentist. Did the exam, took X-rays and said I need a filling replaced which I already knew about and that two back teeth would benefit from a deep clean. I also asked for a scale and polish. The check up was free the cost for the rest will be £47 and an appointment made to suit me because I work away from home. 

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2 hours ago, VERYSTORMY said:

I experienced the NHS in two different modes yesterday. My GP wanted me to be tested for my asthma and four weeks ago to the day referred me to respiratory. I had the appointment yesterday morning. The hospital was modern, spotless and very nice. Arrived 10:58 for 11am. Was seen at 11:05. Had the tests by a very nice professional lady (medical physiologist). Results will be with my GP in days. Couldn't ask for a better service using private. 

Yesterday afternoon I had a dental check. New dentist and no hassle getting an appointment. Very nice dentist. Did the exam, took X-rays and said I need a filling replaced which I already knew about and that two back teeth would benefit from a deep clean. I also asked for a scale and polish. The check up was free the cost for the rest will be £47 and an appointment made to suit me because I work away from home. 

It's always nice to see others having equally good experiences because some think I can't see through my rose tinted glasses lol


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Not just the NHS struggling.

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ALMOST 80,000 West Australians are waiting to see a public hospital specialist to find out if they need surgery, with an average waiting time of more than a year at Fiona Stanley Hospital.

The latest surgical outpatient clinic figures — the “waiting to wait” patients who need to be assessed for surgery — show that at the end of December last year, 79,517 patients were waiting for their first appointment.

also seem to be due to numbers.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wa/west-australians-waiting-a-year-to-see-public-hospital-specialists-as-fiona-stanley-hospital-queue-grows-ng-b88768873z

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On ‎28‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 18:41, BacktoDemocracy said:

And those people pay taxes so that is a fallacious argument, the bottom line is the govt are exploiting everyone

bollox ...you still don't get it .....to be a NET CONTRIBUTOR to the u.k economy , you need to be earning £30,000 per year .

so when the nhs , or someone in the private sector says they have 500 jobs that need filling by people from abroad

the criteria should be

will the jobs be paying £30,000 plus

have we got the school places and housing available within the area

if the answer is NO to any of the above , then you will have to find and employ British labour ....instead of the minimum wage crap you have been getting away with ...simples

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On 3/1/2018 at 04:41, BacktoDemocracy said:

And those people pay taxes so that is a fallacious argument, the bottom line is the govt are exploiting everyone

So please show, to support your argument, that "those people" pay sufficient taxes to support their use of the welfare state. Most of them are low earners and could never contribute enough to justify what benefits they receive from the welfare state

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56 minutes ago, bunbury61 said:

bollox ...you still don't get it .....to be a NET CONTRIBUTOR to the u.k economy , you need to be earning £30,000 per year .

so when the nhs , or someone in the private sector says they have 500 jobs that need filling by people from abroad

the criteria should be

will the jobs be paying £30,000 plus

have we got the school places and housing available within the area

if the answer is NO to any of the above , then you will have to find and employ British labour ....instead of the minimum wage crap you have been getting away with ...simples

as previously stated ...ireland is about to accept 1 million immigrants ...

what's that all about

has Ireland got zero unemployment ?

or is part of the project to break down irelands national identity ?

has anyone asked the Irish people ?

have they got enough hospital places , school places and homes ? ....same argument .

what happens if its unsuccessful ?

sadly , Ireland could become the new Calais ....very sad .

 

 

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2 minutes ago, bunbury61 said:

as previously stated ...ireland is about to accept 1 million immigrants ...

what's that all about

has Ireland got zero unemployment ?

or is part of the project to break down irelands national identity ?

has anyone asked the Irish people ?

have they got enough hospital places , school places and homes ? ....same argument .

what happens if its unsuccessful ?

sadly , Ireland could become the new Calais ....very sad .

 

 

finally , i put up the question last week " how many of the 1-1.5 million migrants that entered germany " recently , have found full time employment .

as of early 2017 ....it was 54 .....Yes 54.....the cost currently to the German economy is 3 billion a year ....what a mess .

blairs Iraq is merkels migration crisis ....sadly that's all she will be remembered for

they could have spent the money on proper safe zones , medical ,and schooling within the middle east

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1 hour ago, bunbury61 said:

bollox ...you still don't get it .....to be a NET CONTRIBUTOR to the u.k economy , you need to be earning £30,000 per year .

so when the nhs , or someone in the private sector says they have 500 jobs that need filling by people from abroad

the criteria should be

will the jobs be paying £30,000 plus

have we got the school places and housing available within the area

if the answer is NO to any of the above , then you will have to find and employ British labour ....instead of the minimum wage crap you have been getting away with ...simples

Well are you prepared to pay £4 a punnet for your strawberries and 50p /kg for potatoes and £1.20/l for milk,  because that's how much you'll pay when farm workers are paid a decent wage or don't you realise all that immigrant labour is what keeps us in cheap food.

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1 hour ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

Well are you prepared to pay £4 a punnet for your strawberries and 50p /kg for potatoes and £1.20/l for milk,  because that's how much you'll pay when farm workers are paid a decent wage or don't you realise all that immigrant labour is what keeps us in cheap food.

Please tell me that was an attempt a satire!  

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52 minutes ago, simmo said:

Please tell me that was an attempt a satire!  

:biglaugh:

No, I don't think it was lol


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3 hours ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

Well are you prepared to pay £4 a punnet for your strawberries and 50p /kg for potatoes and £1.20/l for milk,  because that's how much you'll pay when farm workers are paid a decent wage or don't you realise all that immigrant labour is what keeps us in cheap food.

I would pay DOUBLE THAT ,and should be paying double that , so that the farmers and staff make a proper wage .

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IAM TALKING ABOUT .....if milk is £2 a litre ,so be it

thank you and goodnight

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Just now, bunbury61 said:

I would pay DOUBLE THAT ,and should be paying double that , so that the farmers and staff make a proper wage .

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IAM TALKING ABOUT .....if milk is £2 a litre ,so be it

thank you and goodnight

 

3 hours ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

Well are you prepared to pay £4 a punnet for your strawberries and 50p /kg for potatoes and £1.20/l for milk,  because that's how much you'll pay when farm workers are paid a decent wage or don't you realise all that immigrant labour is what keeps us in cheap food.

so who sounds like a capitalist now 😃


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26 minutes ago, bunbury61 said:

I would pay DOUBLE THAT ,and should be paying double that , so that the farmers and staff make a proper wage .

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IAM TALKING ABOUT .....if milk is £2 a litre ,so be it

thank you and goodnight

We have a wonderful pick your own place near us, beautiful sweet Strawberries. I've always thought milk was too cheap to be fair. 


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40 minutes ago, bunbury61 said:

 

so who sounds like a capitalist now 😃

And are you going to support the unions when they want higher wages to pay for the food at higher prices and cope with the rate of inflation consequent

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51 minutes ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

And are you going to support the unions when they want higher wages to pay for the food at higher prices and cope with the rate of inflation consequent

higher wages for British workers , with solid terms and conditions ....definitely ....it all ties into my anti e.u ...anti globalisation ...zero hour contracts ....abuse of the people stance

rate of inflation ....so be it .

 

 

 


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30 minutes ago, bunbury61 said:

higher wages for British workers , with solid terms and conditions ....definitely ....it all ties into my anti e.u ...anti globalisation ...zero hour contracts ....abuse of the people stance

rate of inflation ....so be it .

 

 

 

Plenty of money then have we.

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3 hours ago, bunbury61 said:

higher wages for British workers , with solid terms and conditions ....definitely ....it all ties into my anti e.u ...anti globalisation ...zero hour contracts ....abuse of the people stance

rate of inflation ....so be it .

 

 

 

It's all very well to say that, but the rise in inflation has a very real cost, and I don't think you have the remit to assign that cost to everyone.

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8 hours ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

Plenty of money then have we.

more than enough to pay proper wages.

we had enough money for the millenium dome and for wars in Iraq , Afghanistan and Libya .

so affording wages of a man or women in the u.k , shouldn't be a problem

your argument is disintegrating

it is big business , the elites ,facilitated by the e.u, that are causing these " poverty " wages

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17 minutes ago, bunbury61 said:

more than enough to pay proper wages.

we had enough money for the millenium dome and for wars in Iraq , Afghanistan and Libya .

so affording wages of a man or women in the u.k , shouldn't be a problem

your argument is disintegrating

it is big business , the elites ,facilitated by the e.u, that are causing these " poverty " wages

Its funny how those normally so "anti capitalism" cannot compute when faced with this argument.

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29 minutes ago, bunbury61 said:

more than enough to pay proper wages.

we had enough money for the millenium dome and for wars in Iraq , Afghanistan and Libya .

so affording wages of a man or women in the u.k , shouldn't be a problem

your argument is disintegrating

it is big business , the elites ,facilitated by the e.u, that are causing these " poverty " wages

I don't disagree with the above. Lots of money has been wasted that shouldn't be.

I also don't disagree with the principle.

But the practicality is, you have to ask wealthy old people to make a choice between immigration or a reduction in their wealth.  They will choose to save their wealth everytime, unless you fudge the argument. 

Poor people will be compensated with higher wages, so you may have more luck getting them to vote for it.

But governments that piss off old people don't stay in power for long.

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