Bob1 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I work in a school and there is a child on a 457 visa who has epilepsy. they are taking medication that was prescribed in Cambodia - where they are from, and parents seem very reluctant to go and see an Australian Paediatrician to have the medication reviewed. I don't know anything about this visa and am wondering if they may not have received a 457 if they had declared the illness. Does anyone know - would they have got a 457 no problem? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Temp visa rules on medical conditions are less strict than for PR. So yes they probably do have a 457, and that means they should also have health cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob1 Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 is part of 457 requirement to have private health insurance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Maybe they cant get covered for it if its a pre existing condition so didnt declare, who knows, but their medication is bound to run out at sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, Bob1 said: is part of 457 requirement to have private health insurance? Yes. I doubt there is a reciprocal agreement with Cambodia. Youre in a bit of a tricky position there but if you believe the child ceases to be medicated and you could have a child with a seizure in school (which you will have to manage) and the parents are refusing to ensure that the child is getting adequate medical intervention then a call to Family Services for advice might have to be the outcome. It’s quite likely that they didn’t declare it for fear of being turned down but they’re not doing their child any favours by not having it monitored. How long are they staying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob1 Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 The child is on medication - from Cambodia and hasn't had a seizure in school but does have behaviour problems - spaced out, autistic features. We want him to see a paed in Oz to rule medication causing the behaviour problems but parents so far haven't done this and I was thinking it may be because they hadn't declared the epilepsy when they applied for the visa. Want to clarify if that would be the case - or if on a 457 then declaring an illness is not an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 It could well be an issue if they are hoping to become Permanent and they are on the system as having a child with a disability. It may be just the cost that scares them but I’d be inclined to think they are trying to keep it a very low profile. The spaced out presentation could be a manifestation of the epilepsy not responding to the medication of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Controlled Epilepsy did not pose a problem at all for my daughter to get her PR. A letter from her specialist was all that was required. it would obviously depend on the severity of this mean condition. I have no idea why they wouldn't consult an Australian Dr. but my daughter has had fantastic backup in Australia. ps Lots of people live completely normal lives with this condition and aren't labelled as having a disability. Edited October 26, 2017 by ramot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 This seems to be a medical rather than visa issue. I think you need to taking advice from your Education Dept/legal team if you can mandatorily make parents take a child to a specialist. Perhaps get the school psychologist to speak to the parents (with an interpreter if necessary) - their reluctance may be due to many factors and not understanding what is being asked could be one of them. The psychologist should also be getting involved regarding the behavioural difficulties and if they may be part of the autism spectrum (or again, depending on the level of English, it could be due to lack of understanding what is being said). It is possible that their medication is one which is also available here in Aus (although prescribed in Cambodia). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 5 hours ago, ali said: This seems to be a medical rather than visa issue. I think you need to taking advice from your Education Dept/legal team if you can mandatorily make parents take a child to a specialist. Perhaps get the school psychologist to speak to the parents (with an interpreter if necessary) - their reluctance may be due to many factors and not understanding what is being asked could be one of them. The psychologist should also be getting involved regarding the behavioural difficulties and if they may be part of the autism spectrum (or again, depending on the level of English, it could be due to lack of understanding what is being said). It is possible that their medication is one which is also available here in Aus (although prescribed in Cambodia). It’s tiimes like this when you wish we had the old school doctors visits isn’t it? I don’t think there is any mandatory process unless a child is demonstrably at risk and then it would be through Family Services. The school counsellor/psych should certainly be involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Quoll said: It’s tiimes like this when you wish we had the old school doctors visits isn’t it? I don’t think there is any mandatory process unless a child is demonstrably at risk and then it would be through Family Services. The school counsellor/psych should certainly be involved. I had to smile at the reference to the old school Dr's Quoll. Communication can be a key, I was struck the other day how services when they get an interpreter can still get it wrong. I was with a Dr on an interview the other day and the Dr. was speaking to a clients husband whose first language is Parsee - CPFS had taken out an Arabic interpreter (not even the gentleman's 2nd language) and all sorts of misunderstandings ensued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I had to smile at the reference to the old school Dr's Quoll. Communication can be a key, I was struck the other day how services when they get an interpreter can still get it wrong. I was with a Dr on an interview the other day and the Dr. was speaking to a clients husband whose first language is Parsee - CPFS had taken out an Arabic interpreter (not even the gentleman's 2nd language) and all sorts of misunderstandings ensued.If poor/non English speakers were required to bring their own interpreters that might solve some of the problems! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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