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A few questions.. Early Years Teacher

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    Hi everyone, I'm currently in my second year of my 3 year degree (BA Hons) in Early Childhood Studies. There are a small group of us who are doing Early Childhood Studies with Early Years Teacher Status, which we had to pass the QTS tests to get onto, and I think is a reasonably new thing. Now that we've started our second year, we are starting with the EYTS part and getting our teaching portfolios together. My plan since starting at uni has been to finish this course, then go on to do a PGCE in Early Years, giving me the 4 years required for the 189.

    On speaking to my tutor this week, I have found out that the PGCE in Early Years is the same thing as the Early Years Teacher Status that we are doing alongside the degree! So basically I think I need to drop back and just do the Early Childhood Studies degree and then go onto the PGCE for my forth year. The main thing that worries me is from looking at the universities website, the Early Years PGCE is only classed as part-time? Would this matter if I am still getting the required amount of teaching days? (I'm not sure if it's only classed as part-time because it is only 1 day in uni but 4 days in a setting).

    My tutor has also suggested I stick with the course but then do a primary PGCE, as then I'll have covered all bases, which may be the case for the UK but I'm sure I've read that for the skills assessment the PGCE must be Early Years based?

    She has advised me to speak to the Aus government about what to do and try to get something in writing, but from looking at the AITSL website they won't advise on courses because the requirements change so much, so I have no idea who I can ask for advice, so if anyone could give me any guidance I would appreciate it so much! Been trying to look into it all day online and still haven't got any closer to finding an answer, it's all so confusing.

    Thank you for reading :-)

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    I may be very wrong so I’m sorry if that’s the case and please ignore this post, but if you’ve done a teaching degree, would you really need to do a PGCE afterwards? Surely a PGCE is for people who have a degree and then want to become a teacher so add the teaching qualification on afterwards. If you’ve done a teaching qualification as your degree, why would you need another?


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    I agree with Teacher Clem - PGCE should follow a non teaching degree. If you want to bump up your time to get the 4 years for an Australian Visa then you’ll need to do a Masters

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    Yep, would be much better for you to a masters or another level 5/6/7 diploma after your pgce. 

    It would be quite pointless for you to do pgce after your 3 year teacher training degree.

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    Thank you so much for all your replies! So basically if I stop the EYTS part (there are only a small group of us who are doing this on top of the degree) and drop down to just the degree, which is Early Childhood Studies, it's not a specific teaching degree. It can lead to a lot of pathways, for example there are people on the course who want to go on to be social workers, play therapists etc as well as working in schools and nurseries.

    I will have a look into doing a Masters as well though. I just feel like it would be so difficult but I won't know unless I try I guess!

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    Do a course though that you really want to do and not just for a visa. Remember, there is no guarantee your occupation will still be eligible by the time you come to apply. The lists are updated regularly and the entire system can change without warning and is likely to in the very near future

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