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6 minutes ago, MilaMocha said:

Immi is now linked to ATO and they have access to everything, so they can pretty much see whatever they want to see. ūüôā

They are linked since 2015.

However they are linked with ATO just to double check if superannuation has been paid..... 


Occupation: Senior Hairdresser 

Country: Italy

Stream: 186 TRT

Number of applicants: 2

186 Visa/Nomination Submitted: 19 April 2018

Immi Status: Received 

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1 minute ago, Andytomas said:

They are linked since 2015.

However they are linked with ATO just to double check if superannuation has been paid..... 

They didn't have open access. They can now see everything from payslips to PAYG and super payments.


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1 minute ago, MilaMocha said:

They didn't have open access. They can now see everything from payslips to PAYG and super payments.

No they can’t see PAYG and payslips. Otherwise why immi are still asking us to show proof that we have been working in a specific place? 

Is the ATO that is linked with immi so they can see if employers are paying the superannuation.


Occupation: Senior Hairdresser 

Country: Italy

Stream: 186 TRT

Number of applicants: 2

186 Visa/Nomination Submitted: 19 April 2018

Immi Status: Received 

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Just now, Andytomas said:

No they can’t see PAYG and payslips. Otherwise why immi are still asking us to show proof that we have been working in a specific place? 

Is the ATO that is linked with immi so they can see if employers are paying the superannuation.

If you check on google ‚Äúlink between ATO and Immi‚ÄĚ you will find a big page of ATO website that explain what I‚Äôm saying......

let me know 


Occupation: Senior Hairdresser 

Country: Italy

Stream: 186 TRT

Number of applicants: 2

186 Visa/Nomination Submitted: 19 April 2018

Immi Status: Received 

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Just now, Andytomas said:

No they can’t see PAYG and payslips. Otherwise why immi are still asking us to show proof that we have been working in a specific place? 

Is the ATO that is linked with immi so they can see if employers are paying the superannuation.

Just comparing records between ATO and the business I guess. They don't ask for payslips/PAYGs from everyone, only applications they need to look into deeper.


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7 minutes ago, Andytomas said:

If you check on google ‚Äúlink between ATO and Immi‚ÄĚ you will find a big page of ATO website that explain what I‚Äôm saying......

let me know 

ATO is using a DATA MATCHING SCHEME which pretty much compares $ amounts and can work out discrepancies even without individual payslips.

It is likely data matching can pick up discrepancies between, for example, your business's BAS statement, Tax assessment, bank records and its workers tax assessments and bank records. On the face of it, DoHA would regard this as "adverse information" against the business which could result in your sponsorship application/approval being cancelled. 

All the 3rd party information that is exchanged with the ATO:

2data_matching.JPG


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6 minutes ago, MilaMocha said:

ATO is using a DATA MATCHING SCHEME which pretty much compares $ amounts and can work out discrepancies even without individual payslips.

It is likely data matching can pick up discrepancies between, for example, your business's BAS statement, Tax assessment, bank records and its workers tax assessments and bank records. On the face of it, DoHA would regard this as "adverse information" against the business which could result in your sponsorship application/approval being cancelled. 

All the 3rd party information that is exchanged with the ATO:

2data_matching.JPG

As I said we are talking about ATO data matching no Immigration. 

Only if they (immigration) are not sure about an application they, as you said, have all the weapons to find out the truth.

 


Occupation: Senior Hairdresser 

Country: Italy

Stream: 186 TRT

Number of applicants: 2

186 Visa/Nomination Submitted: 19 April 2018

Immi Status: Received 

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3 minutes ago, Andytomas said:

As I said we are talking about ATO data matching no Immigration. 

Only if they (immigration) are not sure about an application they, as you said, have all the weapons to find out the truth.

 

Isn't that what I wrote in my very first response? That Immi can find out whatever they want to find out? ATO might be doing the data matching but its IMMI that can access it at all times, and that's what matters.


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1 hour ago, February SA 2018 said:


Hi
Can we know what is the quota for each occupation? I applied one year ago for importer exporter and I have never seen anyone in this forum with the same position... thanks

 

1 hour ago, February SA 2018 said:


Hi
Can we know what is the quota for each occupation? I applied one year ago for importer exporter and I have never seen anyone in this forum with the same position... thanks

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2017-18.pdf please scroll the page in 12 of 18,you can see the report are showing how this government reduced the number of rsms visa approval. 

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3 minutes ago, Sameer 120 said:

 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/report-migration-program-2017-18.pdf please scroll the page in 12 of 18,you can see the report are showing how this government reduced the number of rsms visa approval. 

Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (RSMS)
The RSMS outcome in 2017‚Äď18 was 6221 places, a 39.0 per cent decrease on the 2016‚Äď17 outcome of 10,198 places ‚Äď with this visa program particularly impacted by the integrity issues outlined in the executive summary.
The RSMS enables employers in regional and low population growth areas of Australia to sponsor skilled employees. The majority of persons granted an RSMS visa in 2017‚Äď18 indicated they would reside in:
‚ÄĘ Western Australia (31.5 per cent);
‚ÄĘ Queensland (20.1 per cent); or
‚ÄĘ Victoria (11.2 per cent).
Demand for places in the RSMS category decreased in 2017‚Äď18, with 17,003 applications received compared to 20,236 applications in 2016‚Äď17.
The RSMS pipeline was 22,661 applicants as at 30 June 2018, an increase of 21.2 per cent (3965 applicants) compared to the pipeline as at 30 June 2017.

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48 minutes ago, MilaMocha said:

Isn't that what I wrote in my very first response? That Immi can find out whatever they want to find out? ATO might be doing the data matching but its IMMI that can access it at all times, and that's what matters.

So can I ask your opinion? 

Why the immigration is still asking payslips and Payment Summary at all the PR applicant if they can check by themselves?

thanks


Occupation: Senior Hairdresser 

Country: Italy

Stream: 186 TRT

Number of applicants: 2

186 Visa/Nomination Submitted: 19 April 2018

Immi Status: Received 

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1 minute ago, Andytomas said:

So can I ask your opinion? 

Why the immigration is still asking payslips and Payment Summary at all the PR applicant if they can check by themselves?

thanks

So they can match with ATO whether that data match with payslips and superannuation fund the employer pay for it.some people are sending doggy’s payslips and Group certifacte.

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6 minutes ago, DeepBH said:

So they can match with ATO whether that data match with payslips and superannuation fund the employer pay for it.some people are sending doggy’s payslips and Group certifacte.

Exactly.

People make their own payslips, it's a 5-minute job. Any document can easily be made on any computer, from BAS to PAYG, so as I said- they don't ask for payslips from every single applicant, only when they need to double check something.


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1 hour ago, Sameer 120 said:

Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (RSMS)
The RSMS outcome in 2017‚Äď18 was 6221 places, a 39.0 per cent decrease on the 2016‚Äď17 outcome of 10,198 places ‚Äď with this visa program particularly impacted by the integrity issues outlined in the executive summary.
The RSMS enables employers in regional and low population growth areas of Australia to sponsor skilled employees. The majority of persons granted an RSMS visa in 2017‚Äď18 indicated they would reside in:
‚ÄĘ Western Australia (31.5 per cent);
‚ÄĘ Queensland (20.1 per cent); or
‚ÄĘ Victoria (11.2 per cent).
Demand for places in the RSMS category decreased in 2017‚Äď18, with 17,003 applications received compared to 20,236 applications in 2016‚Äď17.
The RSMS pipeline was 22,661 applicants as at 30 June 2018, an increase of 21.2 per cent (3965 applicants) compared to the pipeline as at 30 June 2017.

That is terrible acoording to your reference

Let's calculate the approval rate for both 187&186 which is 47.71% and 74.15% respectively !  Sooooo bad situation about 187

I will give how to get this terrible number above

 

187 approval rate calculation

firstly, we can know how many applications pipeline leaved at 30 June 2017 which is 22661-3965=18696

Also, application pipeline leaved at 30 June 2018 is 22661

finally, Demand for places in the RSMS category in 2017-18, with 17003 application received

we can get how many applications Co dealed with totally in 2017-18 which is (applications pipeline leaved at 30 June 2017 + application received in 2017-18 - application pipeline leaved at 30 June 2018)=18696+17003-22661=13038

Approval rate=The RSMS outcome in 2017‚Äď18 /applications Co dealed with totally in 2017-18=6221/13038=47.71%

 

 

Same calculate with 186

Cases pipeline in 30 June 2017 is 29842+4556=34398

Cases pipeline in 30 June 2018 is 29842

Cases received in 2017-18 is 34966

Cases dealed in 2017-18 is 34398+34966-29842=39522

Approval rate about 186=29307/39522=74.15%

 

 

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3 hours ago, MilaMocha said:

Immi is now linked to ATO and they have access to everything, so they can pretty much see whatever they want to see. ūüôā

Oh good. Hope we all get positive result

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29 minutes ago, Cris7 said:

That is terrible acoording to your reference

Let's calculate the approval rate for both 187&186 which is 47.71% and 74.15% respectively !  Sooooo bad situation about 187

I will give how to get this terrible number above

 

187 approval rate calculation

firstly, we can know how many applications pipeline leaved at 30 June 2017 which is 22661-3965=18696

Also, application pipeline leaved at 30 June 2018 is 22661

finally, Demand for places in the RSMS category in 2017-18, with 17003 application received

we can get how many applications Co dealed with totally in 2017-18 which is (applications pipeline leaved at 30 June 2017 + application received in 2017-18 - application pipeline leaved at 30 June 2018)=18696+17003-22661=13038

Approval rate=The RSMS outcome in 2017‚Äď18 /applications Co dealed with totally in 2017-18=6221/13038=47.71%

 

 

Same calculate with 186

Cases pipeline in 30 June 2017 is 29842+4556=34398

Cases pipeline in 30 June 2018 is 29842

Cases received in 2017-18 is 34966

Cases dealed in 2017-18 is 34398+34966-29842=39522

Approval rate about 186=29307/39522=74.15%

 

 

Again it depends on individual ‚Äės different conditions.

And btw how come the rate is low for 187, it is during the nomination process, RCB or Visa application? any detailed infomation regarding this.

Edited by mukden

 

 

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18 minutes ago, mukden said:

Again it depends on individual ‚Äės different conditions.

And btw how come the rate is low for 187, it is during the nomination process, RCB or Visa application? any detailed infomation regarding this.

Please make in mind this is annual audit report whichis only calculates visas not nominations, RCB, please be sure this is referring from immigration Websites.please read the upload link properly Cheers

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2 hours ago, DeepBH said:

So they can match with ATO whether that data match with payslips and superannuation fund the employer pay for it.some people are sending doggy’s payslips and Group certifacte.

How do you know this? 


Occupation: Senior Hairdresser 

Country: Italy

Stream: 186 TRT

Number of applicants: 2

186 Visa/Nomination Submitted: 19 April 2018

Immi Status: Received 

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Andytomas said:

How do you know this? 

I have seen in newspapers refusals of rsms visa some people working as a taxi driver and applied as a restaurant manager got caught providing fake documents. As you can read on SBS news. 

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4 minutes ago, DeepBH said:

I have seen in newspapers refusals of rsms visa some people working as a taxi driver and applied as a restaurant manager got caught providing fake documents. As you can read on SBS news. 

So everyone are talking about 187......... which is sound fair enough for a skilled visa. What about 186?

I never heard an 186 refused for this reason.

Am I wrong? 

It makes sense why immi is still asking for payslips and so on to the applicants!!!!

looking forward to hear from you 


Occupation: Senior Hairdresser 

Country: Italy

Stream: 186 TRT

Number of applicants: 2

186 Visa/Nomination Submitted: 19 April 2018

Immi Status: Received 

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29 minutes ago, DeepBH said:

Please make in mind this is annual audit report whichis only calculates visas not nominations, RCB, please be sure this is referring from immigration Websites.please read the upload link properly Cheers

tks mate


 

 

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7 minutes ago, Andytomas said:

So everyone are talking about 187......... which is sound fair enough for a skilled visa. What about 186?

I never heard an 186 refused for this reason.

Am I wrong? 

It makes sense why immi is still asking for payslips and so on to the applicants!!!!

looking forward to hear from you 

This forum mainly deals with rsms visa. I would recommend to u. Please jump to ENS processing time line page. 

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Hi i want to ask that i m on student visa and i m working 20hr/week with my employer as a retail manager roughly 22-23k/yr..i got my rcb approved in feb 2018 and applied my nomination and visa in the end of feb 2018 and still waiting..i m a bit nervous but i m hoping for the best

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2 minutes ago, Avygill said:

Hi i want to ask that i m on student visa and i m working 20hr/week with my employer as a retail manager roughly 22-23k/yr..i got my rcb approved in feb 2018 and applied my nomination and visa in the end of feb 2018 and still waiting..i m a bit nervous but i m hoping for the best

But if you are on bridging visa you can work full time? Very hard to explain why the company is still OK if you don’t work full time. When will your study finish?

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9/1/2018 RCB applied

19/1/2018 RCB granted

24/1/2018 VISA & nomination applied

14/2/2018 Medical done

RSMS, Onshore DE, LR country, Remedial Massage Therapist, WA

Waiting for good news...

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1 hour ago, Cris7 said:

That is terrible acoording to your reference

Let's calculate the approval rate for both 187&186 which is 47.71% and 74.15% respectively !  Sooooo bad situation about 187

I will give how to get this terrible number above

 

187 approval rate calculation

firstly, we can know how many applications pipeline leaved at 30 June 2017 which is 22661-3965=18696

Also, application pipeline leaved at 30 June 2018 is 22661

finally, Demand for places in the RSMS category in 2017-18, with 17003 application received

we can get how many applications Co dealed with totally in 2017-18 which is (applications pipeline leaved at 30 June 2017 + application received in 2017-18 - application pipeline leaved at 30 June 2018)=18696+17003-22661=13038

Approval rate=The RSMS outcome in 2017‚Äď18 /applications Co dealed with totally in 2017-18=6221/13038=47.71%

 

 

Same calculate with 186

Cases pipeline in 30 June 2017 is 29842+4556=34398

Cases pipeline in 30 June 2018 is 29842

Cases received in 2017-18 is 34966

Cases dealed in 2017-18 is 34398+34966-29842=39522

Approval rate about 186=29307/39522=74.15%

 

 

Chris, mate the whole Idea of lack of rsms visa numbers are generated by former Immigration Ministers MR. Dutton and his fellow mates Mr. Coleman is taking to next level .

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