Immigration question

[Guest nastasia]

Until when can australia sustain mass incoming migration?

[Bobj]

Interesting, indeed.

'' Sustainable Australia president, William Bourke, penned a thought-provoking letter in The AFR arguing that Australia’s permanent skilled migration program is actually diluting Australia’s skills base:

 

Australia’s record permanent immigration program of around 200,000 that’s diluting our skills base. Although the so-called “skilled” category is two-thirds of the annual program, the government hides the unskilled families of the skilled migrant inside that category.

This means that in truth, only around 50,000 (25 per cent) are bringing in designated skills – that is, if you have faith in the skills list – and worse still, many of those primary skilled migrants are not even working in their area of expertise.

An overwhelming 75 per cent or more of permanent migrants are not bringing designated skills, and so create a massive annual net skills deficit. This dilutes our skills base. The 457 Band-Aid won’t help either, as it includes just as many dependants as primary visa holders.

The only way to secure an economically sustainable Australia with lower skills shortages is to lower immigration back to the long-term average cap of 70,000 per year – and seriously invest in local education and training.''

Taken from here;

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/04/mass-immigration-diluting-australias-skills-base/

Cheers, Bobj.

 

[Collie]

On 6/22/2017 at 22:13, nastasia said:

Until when can australia sustain mass incoming migration?

What is your view?

[newjez]

On 2017-6-22 at 15:13, nastasia said:

Until when can australia sustain mass incoming migration?

Indefinitely, but they will need to establish new cities, and that seems to be a difficult thing to do.

[Nemesis]

On 25/06/2017 at 03:41, newjez said:

Indefinitely, but they will need to establish new cities, and that seems to be a difficult thing to do.

They can't provide decent utilitites for the cities they've got, never mind new ones. Constant droughts causing water shortages, and look at the state of the electricity grid....South Australia's blackouts for starters.

[newjez]

7 hours ago, Nemesis said:

They can't provide decent utilitites for the cities they've got, never mind new ones. Constant droughts causing water shortages, and look at the state of the electricity grid....South Australia's blackouts for starters.

Australia has always had droughts. That's not a problem with immigration. 

Blackouts are generally due to Australian regulations which won't allow them to work on live wires, whereas they do in the UK. You also get brown outs, when all the air conditioning goes on at once. But this is an infrastructure problem, not necessarily an immigration problem. If the government isn't planning for immigration and catering for that immigration, then you have a problem with the government. They either need to plan better or slow the rate of immigration.

[Parley]

In theory anything is possible in terms of population but the problem is it can only happen very slowly.

Only so many can be absorbed per year to ensure all the infrastructure can keep up such as schools, housing, roads, rail, hospitals etc.

No doubt in 100 years or so we may well be at 100 million but it takes a long time to get there if you don't want a massive reduction in quality of life for everyone who lives here already.

[Collie]

8 hours ago, Nemesis said:

They can't provide decent utilitites for the cities they've got, never mind new ones. Constant droughts causing water shortages, and look at the state of the electricity grid....South Australia's blackouts for starters.

That's more to do with incompetence that what is possible.

[Nemesis]

6 hours ago, Collie said:

That's more to do with incompetence that what is possible.

Oh I agree, but if they are too incompetent to cope with the demands of the current cities, what the point of trying to build new ones. Need to solve the base problem first - like where to get the water from. Ozzies seem to have an aversion to recycling water, and to use of desalination plants