Melbourne - Victoria- the good, the bad, the ugly

[Fosh]

Hi

everyone, myself, my hubby and our 2 little boys under 3 are moving to melbourne (not officially 100% signed off yet regarding the place). We picked melbourne as we do have family there, as it's where my husband is from. He's raised concerns about living there from speaking with friends about life style. Were wanting a family environment, we used to live in London and we left the busy life behind of the London streets 3 years ago now and we love our relaxed family life.

For the people who live or have lived in Melbourne, do you find it family orientated? 

Do you find it safe? 

Do you have a good work life balance? Leave work at a reasonable hour ect if you work in an office? 

Enjoy the weather? I am from the UK so anything is an upgrade haha! 

Crime rates? 

Do you own a swimming pool is it worth it with the weather? 

Do you enjoy doing things as a family around melbourne? Lots of parks and things to do with the kids?

[Lever40]

I love Melbourne, lived there for 2 years on a WHV. I was mainly in the outer eastern suburbs and really liked it. Im moving ( hopefully once the new visa comes through) later in the (uk) summer. Weather wise it is similar at times to the uk but you dont have the same cold that you would get here but on the other hand you do get the extreme highs, overall much better especially if you're an outdoor person. There is a much wider scope for work and opportunity, at least thats what I found coming from Northern Ireland which has a population of about 1.8m to a city with 2.5 times that. Crime Id say really depends on the suburb, there is a list here somewhere with the latest figures. A swimming pool is really one of those things everyone wants but never needs or use 9 out of 10 days. Id only have one if my garden was big enough, id never gave up good garden space for a pool. There is certainly a lot of parks and recreational area's around Melbourne, way more than anywhere here because stuff here just gets trashed and vandalized. 

Hope that helps 

[Fosh]

8 hours ago, Lever40 said:

I love Melbourne, lived there for 2 years on a WHV. I was mainly in the outer eastern suburbs and really liked it. Im moving ( hopefully once the new visa comes through) later in the (uk) summer. Weather wise it is similar at times to the uk but you dont have the same cold that you would get here but on the other hand you do get the extreme highs, overall much better especially if you're an outdoor person. There is a much wider scope for work and opportunity, at least thats what I found coming from Northern Ireland which has a population of about 1.8m to a city with 2.5 times that. Crime Id say really depends on the suburb, there is a list here somewhere with the latest figures. A swimming pool is really one of those things everyone wants but never needs or use 9 out of 10 days. Id only have one if my garden was big enough, id never gave up good garden space for a pool. There is certainly a lot of parks and recreational area's around Melbourne, way more than anywhere here because stuff here just gets trashed and vandalized. 

Hope that helps 

Thanks so much for responding! We are struggling between Melbourne and Queensland. (My husband threw Brisbane into the mix last night).

It's difficult making the decision when you have young children as you don't want to keep uprooting them (especially when school/nursery places are so hard to find!) 

I'm really struggling with the melbourne weather, we would want and would use a pool most weekends with the kids, so that's what puts me off Melbourne and perhaps we need a better climate.

Thanks again and good luck with your move.

[Scousers1]

I live in the outer east Melb. It has become very busy over last 10 years although in comparison with London will probably seem ok. Jobs are not so easy to find these days certainly not like it was. Weather wise Melbourne is not the best it does get cold. A pool only if a small one and easy to maintain. Worklife balance is not easy. Aussies think all they should fo is work and it has took me 25 years to be able to say no and now work 2 days a week. I think the biggest thing for me is the lack ofcommiment in frienships you just dont get it here.personally i wish we had not stayed here as it is all my daughter knows.

[Fosh]

27 minutes ago, Scousers1 said:

I live in the outer east Melb. It has become very busy over last 10 years although in comparison with London will probably seem ok. Jobs are not so easy to find these days certainly not like it was. Weather wise Melbourne is not the best it does get cold. A pool only if a small one and easy to maintain. Worklife balance is not easy. Aussies think all they should fo is work and it has took me 25 years to be able to say no and now work 2 days a week. I think the biggest thing for me is the lack ofcommiment in frienships you just dont get it here.personally i wish we had not stayed here as it is all my daughter knows.

Me and my hubby met in London 7 years ago, we left the rat race and moved to leeds for a quieter family life, our work life balance is amazing, which is the only reason we have struggled to take so long to want to leave the UK.  I work 4 days a week 8 -4 and can work from home anytime. My hubby works from home full time and travels to leeds or halifax every now and again, which has helped him to have a strong bond with our 2 year old as he worked from  home so was hands on with no commute time which was and still is amazing. 

Your post is my biggest fear! Rubbish weather but paying 50% more for a house. Long commutes and long working hours  (we both work in IT).

We have family in Melbourne but they will be more of a burden than a help as they are very old which will also take time away from being with our children which concerns me.

We thought about Brisbane but with the floods I'm not too sure. Or Adelaide in the hope that it's more laid back and better work life balance?? 

[Johndoe]

3 hours ago, Fosh said:

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We thought about Brisbane but with the floods I'm not too sure.

Sorry. I tend to be abrupt :-) To rule out Brizzy because of "floods" proves that you are,  to be other than concise, quite ignorant. You haven't done your homework. I did mine over 20 yrs ago when we didn't have the "climate modellings" that they have now and I have moved 5 times within Brizzy area and never been flooded.

 

Back to the OP.................get yer @rse up to Brissy, it's great.............no more to be said

[Scousers1]

3 hours ago, Fosh said:

Me and my hubby met in London 7 years ago, we left the rat race and moved to leeds for a quieter family life, our work life balance is amazing, which is the only reason we have struggled to take so long to want to leave the UK.  I work 4 days a week 8 -4 and can work from home anytime. My hubby works from home full time and travels to leeds or halifax every now and again, which has helped him to have a strong bond with our 2 year old as he worked from  home so was hands on with no commute time which was and still is amazing. 

Your post is my biggest fear! Rubbish weather but paying 50% more for a house. Long commutes and long working hours  (we both work in IT).

We have family in Melbourne but they will be more of a burden than a help as they are very old which will also take time away from being with our children which concerns me.

We thought about Brisbane but with the floods I'm not too sure. Or Adelaide in the hope that it's more laid back and better work life balance?? 

If i was to emigrate again Brisbane would be the one i would try. Adelaide is way too quiet even though i quite like it, i dont think i would like to live there. Brisbane weather would be great, easy access to gold coast and my favourite sunshine coast. The only one down fall with Brisbane is it goes dark all year round at 6pm due to its location. If you like Leeds why move, just curious?

[Fosh]

2 minutes ago, Scousers1 said:

If i was to emigrate again Brisbane would be the one i would try. Adelaide is way too quiet even though i quite like it, i dont think i would like to live there. Brisbane weather would be great, easy access to gold coast and my favourite sunshine coast. The only one down fall with Brisbane is it goes dark all year round at 6pm due to its location. If you like Leeds why move, just curious?

We like quiet, so I think it would suit us more. 

Hubby has lived in the UK 10 years and seriously hates the weather, we also want private schooling for our 2 boys, private schooling is around 300k per child in his lifetime in the UK near us. 

My hubbys parents are also old and he needs to be nearer to them whilst mine are 15 years younger than his (they had children late). They have also offered to give us some cash to buy a house or pay for the boys private education, which will be nice not to have the stress of a mortgage or school fees knowing they are getting a good education. So a few factors really.

The only thing keeping us in Leeds is our jobs, that's it.my family are young enough to visit us and can do so for 4 weeks at a time which is good, my hubby's family cannot/ will not fly.

[Scousers1]

10 minutes ago, Fosh said:

We like quiet, so I think it would suit us more. 

Hubby has lived in the UK 10 years and seriously hates the weather, we also want private schooling for our 2 boys, private schooling is around 300k per child in his lifetime in the UK near us. 

My hubbys parents are also old and he needs to be nearer to them whilst mine are 15 years younger than his (they had children late). They have also offered to give us some cash to buy a house or pay for the boys private education, which will be nice not to have the stress of a mortgage or school fees knowing they are getting a good education. So a few factors really.

The only thing keeping us in Leeds is our jobs, that's it.my family are young enough to visit us and can do so for 4 weeks at a time which is good, my hubby's family cannot/ will not fly.

When i say quiet its a bit different to the UK quiet. What i mean is everything is closed early and its just dead! It takes a bit of getting used to. In regards to private education, i would be careful. Think that one through carefully. I sent my child to private and now regret it totally. We probably spent in total for primary and secondary $170k on education. Yes she is very well educated . What has now happened is that she really didnt like the people she went to school with ( all snobs) so didnt really socialise unless i pushed. Now she finds she doesnt quite fit in with either group. She is doing ok but only ok. It has knocked her confidence alot. Once again if i had my time again i would do state school. I know lots of kids doing perfectly ok from it. Which area of Mel where you thinking?

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[Fosh]

9 minutes ago, Scousers1 said:

When i say quiet its a bit different to the UK quiet. What i mean is everything is closed early and its just dead! It takes a bit of getting used to. In regards to private education, i would be careful. Think that one through carefully. I sent my child to private and now regret it totally. We probably spent in total for primary and secondary $170k on education. Yes she is very well educated . What has now happened is that she really didnt like the people she went to school with ( all snobs) so didnt really socialise unless i pushed. Now she finds she doesnt quite fit in with either group. She is doing ok but only ok. It has knocked her confidence alot. Once again if i had my time again i would do state school. I know lots of kids doing perfectly ok from it. Which area of Mel where you thinking?

Thanks for the tips will keep it in mind when we start looking. We live just outside of Leeds....everything closes here lol I'd rather be in a quiet area then trying to run the rat race again, it's about quality time as a family for us. 

With us not having family we won't be out much anyway eating out ect it will be all about our children and spending quality time as a family enjoying nice weather to be able to enjoy the outdoors with the boys.

[Scousers1]

3 minutes ago, Fosh said:

Thanks for the tips will keep it in mind when we start looking. We live just outside of Leeds....everything closes here lol I'd rather be in a quiet area then trying to run the rat race again, it's about quality time as a family for us. 

With us not having family we won't be out much anyway eating out ect it will be all about our children and spending quality time as a family enjoying nice weather to be able to enjoy the outdoors with the boys.

I hope it works out for you and your family. Oz does have some wonderful places to go the weather helps alot too. It is a very different lifestyle and definetly worth giving it a shot.

[Parley]

Really if you work in IT you need to follow where the majority of IT work is.

Sydney and Melbourne should be your target locations.

[buzzy--bee]

Hi Fosh, we moved from London to Melbourne 10 years ago.  I work in IT.

We also shortlisted Brisbane and Melbourne and did reccies to both, but Melbourne won by miles.  Some of the reasons -

- The weather.  I like the seasons and I don't like humidity.  Melbourne is like UK weather + 10 degrees.  We dont get snow or frost in winter, we do get a summer that lasts several months.  Spring and Autumn have a lot of very pleasant days too, often into the high 20s / 30s.
- The beaches.  In Brisbane it is hard to live within walking distance of a nice beach and an easy commute of the CBD.  Brisbane's best beaches are the Gold and Sunshine Coasts which are too far for an easy commute.  In Melbourne we can walk to a stunning beach and we are well under 1 hour commute from work.
- The work opportunities.  Far far more numerous in the corporate world in Melbourne.  And without income, it doesn't matter how good the weather is, you will only be able to stay until your savings run out.
- The city.  Melbourne is lovely to live in, beautiful parks, wide tree lined streets, trams, pavement cafes.

No regrets 10 years in.

[kevsan]

Hi,

we've been in melbourne for nearly 2 years and dont regret our choices at all. I work in IT as a project manager for a large multinational. My wife now works part time now both kids are in school.

to answer some of your questions

For the people who live or have lived in Melbourne, do you find it family orientated? - Absolutely, plenty to do as adults and with kids, lots of sports / extra activities for the family to do together or on their own. - my daughter (8) does dancing (Ballet/Jazzz/Acro) 2 nights a week and Saturday morning, my son (5) did Milo cricket this year, and is currently doing auskick (into to AFL) and loves both of them. We also spend a lot of time on bikes (lots of bike paths on and off road) and at the beach. We have also got into Standup Paddle boarding and Kayaking on the bay. Theres also plenty of less physical activities to keep you going as well

Do you find it safe? Yes, never any problems in the city, at home or out and about day or night.

Do you have a good work life balance? Leave work at a reasonable hour etc if you work in an office? Yes - i still work on client site most of the time, but generally have worked in Melbourne CBD. I've also worked in Sydney, meaning being away from home, but thats the exception. As a rule i am home usually before dinnertime and definitely before bed, which was unheard of in the UK when i tended to be in a hotel 3-4 nights a week. Sharing the family meal is a big positive for me. I take the train usually into work, and need to be at the station by about 7:15 to get a parking space and am at my desk 50 minutes later. (that will probably change with the next project, but thats the nature of the work rather than melbourne/australia. leave between 4:30 and 6 depending on the day. I've also run projects remotely in Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth which means working from home, and given the time difference sometimes you can play that to your advantage.

Enjoy the weather? I am from the UK so anything is an upgrade haha! Definitely, cold at the moment, but not cold in the UK cold. Summers are great, hot but dry so not sticky and horrible, although walking out of the office when its 40 degrees in a UK wool suit is not something to you want to do very often.

Do you own a swimming pool is it worth it with the weather? you'll get various pov on this. We own our house without one, but its on the list to get as soon as we can. A boon in the summer to cool off and with kids to entertain it can be a no brainer. If its heated you could use it year round, but that'll be a personal view.

Do you enjoy doing things as a family around melbourne? Lots of parks and things to do with the kids? -  yes as above. Plenty of kids playground and activity centres plus access to sports and events is better and usually cheap/free for kids.

[Fosh]

7 hours ago, Parley said:

Really if you work in IT you need to follow where the majority of IT work is.

Sydney and Melbourne should be your target locations.

I know Parley, I just have concerns about moving to Melbourne (Sydney is absolutely out with 2 young children even though I love it) and not having quality time with my children because I'm working such long hours like in London, with them being so small both under 3 years. 

I also have in laws in Melbourne that can be a little difficult to put it politely lol which would also take time away from us with our children as they can be very demanding! My sister in law who lives in Melbourne is afraid to spend the Easter break away from her parents.....enough said haha. 

[Fosh]

4 hours ago, buzzy--bee said:

Hi Fosh, we moved from London to Melbourne 10 years ago.  I work in IT.

We also shortlisted Brisbane and Melbourne and did reccies to both, but Melbourne won by miles.  Some of the reasons -

- The weather.  I like the seasons and I don't like humidity.  Melbourne is like UK weather + 10 degrees.  We dont get snow or frost in winter, we do get a summer that lasts several months.  Spring and Autumn have a lot of very pleasant days too, often into the high 20s / 30s.
- The beaches.  In Brisbane it is hard to live within walking distance of a nice beach and an easy commute of the CBD.  Brisbane's best beaches are the Gold and Sunshine Coasts which are too far for an easy commute.  In Melbourne we can walk to a stunning beach and we are well under 1 hour commute from work.
- The work opportunities.  Far far more numerous in the corporate world in Melbourne.  And without income, it doesn't matter how good the weather is, you will only be able to stay until your savings run out.
- The city.  Melbourne is lovely to live in, beautiful parks, wide tree lined streets, trams, pavement cafes.

No regrets 10 years in.

Busy bee thank you for your message it's really helpful. 

We are really struggling to choose an area that is right for our family, it's such a big decision, but like I keep saying to my husband, if it doesn't work out where ever we choose to live after 6 months of trying, we can always move, yes it will be difficult, but live and learn ect. We like the thought of a laid back Adelaide, it's far enough flight/drive from the in laws in Melbourne, house prices seem more reasonable, alot less commuting which makes me happy as a mum to 2 little boys. But job wise, I'm not sure. I did some research and unemployment was as high as melbourne in some recent results published this year, it seems to be on the up. I'm not that interested in city living after living in London so long, we felt glad to leave the behind. 

I've been to melbourne and I struggled to fall in love with it last time which worries me. But we had to spend the whole time with the in laws and I didn't get any time to let my hair down, relax and venture out, so I don't want to rule it out on that basis. 

That's the thing you hit the nail on the head, without work you can't survive. 

I think it's the commuting time, house prices, and in laws that all worry me about Melbourne! 

Thanks for your positive message it gives us alot to think about.

[Fosh]

3 hours ago, kevsan said:

Hi,

we've been in melbourne for nearly 2 years and dont regret our choices at all. I work in IT as a project manager for a large multinational. My wife now works part time now both kids are in school.

to answer some of your questions

For the people who live or have lived in Melbourne, do you find it family orientated? - Absolutely, plenty to do as adults and with kids, lots of sports / extra activities for the family to do together or on their own. - my daughter (8) does dancing (Ballet/Jazzz/Acro) 2 nights a week and Saturday morning, my son (5) did Milo cricket this year, and is currently doing auskick (into to AFL) and loves both of them. We also spend a lot of time on bikes (lots of bike paths on and off road) and at the beach. We have also got into Standup Paddle boarding and Kayaking on the bay. Theres also plenty of less physical activities to keep you going as well

Do you find it safe? Yes, never any problems in the city, at home or out and about day or night.

Do you have a good work life balance? Leave work at a reasonable hour etc if you work in an office? Yes - i still work on client site most of the time, but generally have worked in Melbourne CBD. I've also worked in Sydney, meaning being away from home, but thats the exception. As a rule i am home usually before dinnertime and definitely before bed, which was unheard of in the UK when i tended to be in a hotel 3-4 nights a week. Sharing the family meal is a big positive for me. I take the train usually into work, and need to be at the station by about 7:15 to get a parking space and am at my desk 50 minutes later. (that will probably change with the next project, but thats the nature of the work rather than melbourne/australia. leave between 4:30 and 6 depending on the day. I've also run projects remotely in Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth which means working from home, and given the time difference sometimes you can play that to your advantage.

Enjoy the weather? I am from the UK so anything is an upgrade haha! Definitely, cold at the moment, but not cold in the UK cold. Summers are great, hot but dry so not sticky and horrible, although walking out of the office when its 40 degrees in a UK wool suit is not something to you want to do very often.

Do you own a swimming pool is it worth it with the weather? you'll get various pov on this. We own our house without one, but its on the list to get as soon as we can. A boon in the summer to cool off and with kids to entertain it can be a no brainer. If its heated you could use it year round, but that'll be a personal view.

Do you enjoy doing things as a family around melbourne? Lots of parks and things to do with the kids? -  yes as above. Plenty of kids playground and activity centres plus access to sports and events is better and usually cheap/free for kids.

Hi Kevsan, 

Thank you for your response, it's been really helpful to my partner and I, lots of info to the questions we had.

Did your wife find part time work quite quickly? I'm really hoping for 4 days a week (I love working, but I also want to see my boys 1 extra day a week for my quality time with them) I've struggled when looking online to find any part time Project Manager work or companies with flexible working ect  (my husband works compressed hours and has 1 day off every 10 days)we know we are both very fortune to have this in the UK, we chose the well on the company front, not sure we have the ability to be that picky in Melbourne as it feel it's more like London than Leeds.

My husband works from home full time and loves the flexibility it gives us a family as he drops our little boy at nursery, then I collect him at 4.30pm which is great. We have been so lucky in the UK to have this which makes the move for us more difficult. It's positive to know you have worked from home with jobs, is this common in melbourne/ Adelaide? 

The weather is an interesting one, last time I was in Melbourne, one day it was 40 degs, then freezing and raining the next! I know it's the 4 seasons in a day. I'm worried I will find it too cold from what people have said, but I don't think my little ones would cope with the heat so Melbourne/ Adelaide would be better for them. The UK weather has been so miserable lately! It's May and the highest we have had in the last few weeks is 11 degrees, lots of cloud too. My poor Australian husband has suffered long enough in the UK as he has been here 10 years, he misses good weather so much, but also loves he flexibility of his job like me.

How did you find working in Adelaide? How do you find Adelaide in general?

Thanks for the info on the swimming pool, my husband friend also offered the same advice, he said he has solar panels on his which heats it up so he can use it much more so we will absolutely invest in those.

Which areas have you lived in Kevsan within Melbourne? With my husband being over in the UK for 10 years, he's very much out of the loop, and what used to be bad areas are now expensive areas we can no longer afford! 

Thanks again so much for your response, it's been so helpful for us.

[Parley]

Melbourne is a big geographically spread suburb so you could easily settle in a suburb that is 45 mins or an hour away from your in laws.

I think that would solve your problem.

It would be a bit mean to move interstate and stop your in laws from seeing their grandchild, and if you are an hour away you stop the continual dropins.

[starlight7]

I wouldn't worry about the Melbourne weather- coming from the UK you will think it is seriously fantastic! It is never that cold here unless you live up in the snowfields and in the middle of our Winter you frequently get beautiful sunny days which are real bottlers. Queensland is wonderful between May and November but apart from that it is very, very humid and enervating. if you are a keen swimmer , sure it is better though because you need the pool to cool off!  Nice though Adelaide is, I wouldn't bother because it is very small and parochial and the work situation is pretty dire. A couple of years would be fine but not much longer. Melbourne has the vibe more than Brisbane but Brisbane is nice, too. Depends what you want in life I guess. Personally I think the education is a better standard down in Melbourne but that also depends on how important that sort of thing is to you. 

[Fosh]

45 minutes ago, Parley said:

Melbourne is a big geographically spread suburb so you could easily settle in a suburb that is 45 mins or an hour away from your in laws.

I think that would solve your problem.

It would be a bit mean to move interstate and stop your in laws from seeing their grandchild, and if you are an hour away you stop the continual dropins.

I never said in any of my posts that I would stop them from seeing their grandchildren, I'm not a monster. They are Italian, if anyone has Italian parents/In laws they will understand. They want to live with you, see you everyday ect, they are also very strict Catholics and myself and my husband are not and they are very strong with their views, which I don't want pushing onto our children, as we are a very modern family with modern views. We would also be expected to go to church on weekends if we lived near them, it would be difficult for us, and we would be unhappy. My parents are very laid back, and I'm used to that environment, no blackmail or guilt tripping ect unfortunately my hubby's family are not laid back. They make living in the UK difficult for us, so living on their door step would be way too much which is why we have lived in the UK for 10 years. 

[bane01]

All the metropolitans around the world getting crowded just like Melbourne. It take time to land in the perfect employment or unless you have special skills. London and Melbourne has much similarities when it comes to weather. Work life balance is difficult, some jobs require you to travel outside city everyday means even if you have pool you may manage to use it once a week. Good Luck!!

[Parley]

1 minute ago, Fosh said:

I never said in any of my posts that I would stop them from seeing their grandchildren, I'm not a monster. They are Italian, if anyone has Italian parents/In laws they will understand. They want to live with you, see you everyday ect, they are also very strict Catholics and myself and my husband are not and they are very strong with their views, which I don't want pushing onto our children, as we are a very modern family with modern views. We would also be expected to go to church on weekends if we lived near them, it would be difficult for us, and we would be unhappy. My parents are very laid back, and I'm used to that environment, no blackmail or guilt tripping ect unfortunately my hubby's family are not laid back. They make living in the UK difficult for us, so living on their door step would be way too much which is why we have lived in the UK for 10 years. 

As I said don't live on their doorstep. You can be in the same city but still far enough away.

Realistically if you are in another state they would hardly ever see their grandchild.

I think your hubby needs to talk to them though.

[Fosh]

25 minutes ago, starlight7 said:

I wouldn't worry about the Melbourne weather- coming from the UK you will think it is seriously fantastic! It is never that cold here unless you live up in the snowfields and in the middle of our Winter you frequently get beautiful sunny days which are real bottlers. Queensland is wonderful between May and November but apart from that it is very, very humid and enervating. if you are a keen swimmer , sure it is better though because you need the pool to cool off!  Nice though Adelaide is, I wouldn't bother because it is very small and parochial and the work situation is pretty dire. A couple of years would be fine but not much longer. Melbourne has the vibe more than Brisbane but Brisbane is nice, too. Depends what you want in life I guess. Personally I think the education is a better standard down in Melbourne but that also depends on how important that sort of thing is to you. 

Thanks this is really helpful.  I think it's looking like Melbourne from the guidance people have given us, I just worry about commuting but I guess we will figure that out when we arrive. 

Good news re the weather lol UK weather is getting worse! My poor hubby can't cope anymore haha. 

Hopefully getting a job will be easier in Melbourne too.

Thank you 

[Fosh]

5 minutes ago, Parley said:

As I said don't live on their doorstep. You can be in the same city but still far enough away.

Realistically if you are in another state they would hardly ever see their grandchild.

I think your hubby needs to talk to them though.

Were moving to the best place for our children, family doesn't come into it. My parents are from the UK, which will be a 24 hour flight for them so it's alot more difficult for them too. My husbands parents will be a 1.30hr flight, I'm sure they will be fine with that. They have stated they just want us in Australia and out of the UK. 

 

[Fosh]

11 minutes ago, bane01 said:

All the metropolitans around the world getting crowded just like Melbourne. It take time to land in the perfect employment or unless you have special skills. London and Melbourne has much similarities when it comes to weather. Work life balance is difficult, some jobs require you to travel outside city everyday means even if you have pool you may manage to use it once a week. Good Luck!!

Thanks for the info, so you find the weather similar to London? 

This is what worries me about Melbourne, it feels like I will be moving back to London, over crowding, weather, house prices, commute times its all what I'm afraid of when moving to Melbourne.

 

Thanks