ian360 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 minute ago, unzippy said: How long does an RRV last, is it per trip or for a time period? My last one was for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unzippy Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welljock Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 20 minutes ago, ian360 said: My last one was for 5 years. It can be one or five years, generally one year if you've not lived in the country for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unzippy Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 12 minutes ago, welljock said: It can be one or five years, generally one year if you've not lived in the country for 2 years. But with the new rules, you wouldn't need an RRV until after the travel part of the PR expired - which is 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welljock Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, unzippy said: But with the new rules, you wouldn't need an RRV until after the travel part of the PR expired - which is 5 years? There is no change it's was that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep me in oz Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Yea sorry if I sounded doom and gloom about it, my only intention when joining in the convo was to point out that citizenship is really important and that's why people may be desperate! Each persons circumstances are unique and I couldn't resist defending the want/need for being super keen to get it as soon as eligible! Plus RRV conditions could be changed as it's only a visa. The only way to stay unconditionally is citizenship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elderberry Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Keep me in oz said: Yea sorry if I sounded doom and gloom about it, my only intention when joining in the convo was to point out that citizenship is really important and that's why people may be desperate! Each persons circumstances are unique and I couldn't resist defending the want/need for being super keen to get it as soon as eligible! Plus RRV conditions could be changed as it's only a visa. The only way to stay unconditionally is citizenship! Fair enough Keepmeinoz, I agree with you, I'd rather have citizenship than be here as a PR. Especially if, like me, you've got parents that are becoming 'more senior', you never know what may be around the corner that requires Australia to be put on hold for a while, or possibly years, even if you do intend on coming back for the rest of your life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep me in oz Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 21 minutes ago, elderberry said: Fair enough Keepmeinoz, I agree with you, I'd rather have citizenship than be here as a PR. Especially if, like me, you've got parents that are becoming 'more senior', you never know what may be around the corner that requires Australia to be put on hold for a while, or possibly years, even if you do intend on coming back for the rest of your life. Indeed, I can't even bare to think about my parents getting old!!! Let's all keep our fingers crossed the legislation isn't as bad for us all as it seems to be right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwatt99 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I contacted my mp regarding these citizenship changes and below is the reply. What does it mean? Probably nothing but was worth putting my point across. And as wife was eligible 1st june prior to these changes will it still be same or do you think they will say its now next year? Not bothered to call and ask yet. But curious anyone who was eligible since these changes if they have applied. At this stage, the laws have not passed Parliament, but we are currently looking closely at the proposed changes, as well as undergoing extensive community consultation as to how they will affect Permanent Residents and other visa holders in Australia. We will continue to advocate for the fairest approach for every Australian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatinabox Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Sheila said: English requirement is a Joke. I did IELTS 8 each to get my PR now they are expecting me to do 6 each again to get citizenship......!! This looks more like joint venture with IELTS conducting bodies like (AEO IDP British council ). Just a thought , what do u think? Yeah I think the double IELTS requirement is pretty pathetic for PR holders since we all did IELTS anyway. I scored min 8 in all of them why should I redo it? They are assuming your English will get worse over 4 years in Australia? No sense doing it twice other than money grab. Should only apply to visa categories that didnt have the IELTS requirement. Edited April 26, 2017 by wombatinabox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicF Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, wombatinabox said: Yeah I think the double IELTS requirement is pretty pathetic for PR holders since we all did IELTS anyway. I scored min 8 in all of them why should I redo it? They are assuming your English will get worse over 4 years in Australia? No sense doing it twice other than money grab. Should only apply to visa categories that didnt have the IELTS requirement. Again, not all PR visa holders have done IELTS. I have a PR visa but have not done IELTS. Did you bring your family over and if so did they all do IELTS? I do think if you have previously done an English test as part of your visa application then you should be able to use that for your citizenship rather than sit another one, but for those who haven't, including spouses of PR visa applicants, I don't think it is unreasonable to require they demonstrate English language skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddie32 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Not sure if this will get anything changed, but worth a try...Change.org petition - Australian Citizenship Eligibility Changes April 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierreC Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Probably because it does not just affect English people. There are so many nationalities applying for citizenship they cannot have one test for some and make execptions for others, it has to be the same across the board or they will be accused of being racist.Well most PR visas currently exonerate passport holders of English speaking countries (not all of them) to sit and English test.And that seems more than fine to me. Sent using Poms in Oz mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysonLuck Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Does anyone apply citizenship after 20/04. If someone have applied this after 20/04, would you please share your experience? Like: CO ask you to do a english test, Jobs approve, Tax, Community service approve etc. Or They still use old rules. Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwatt99 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 With these new rules i was wondering do they still have the calculator for citizenship where you entered your details and it would let you know when you could apply? Myself i prefered to call but wife wanted to check but i cant find it have then got rid of it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bella1458 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 hours ago, bwatt99 said: With these new rules i was wondering do they still have the calculator for citizenship where you entered your details and it would let you know when you could apply? Myself i prefered to call but wife wanted to check but i cant find it have then got rid of it? I was thinking the same thing, it was really helpful. Im sure they will, probably just updating the current one at the moment with the new criteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beffers Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 22 hours ago, Parley said: It is a fact that many hang out for citizenship to keep their options open and then immediately bugger off back to the UK. They are not committed to Australia at all. Is this what you are planning to do also ? It would be interesting to see what would happen if dual citizenship was dropped and people had to renounce their UK citizenship whether they would still want to become Australian citizens. You're right. There's lots of Brits that do that. It would be interesting to see if any/many would renounce their British citizenship in favour of Australia. I actually think this should be a condition of applying for Citizenship in any country. If you want Citizenship, then prove your allegiance unequivocally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatinabox Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) Border has now officially removed the citizenship calculator, no good! Looks like our speculation of applications on and after April 20 being frozen are true. Most likely only be processed after early 2018 when new tests are ready. We are looking at extended wait times even if eligible under new rules. I'm trying to get confirmation from a migration agent Edited April 27, 2017 by wombatinabox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep me in oz Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, wombatinabox said: Border has now officially removed the citizenship calculator, no good! Looks like our speculation of applications on and after April 20 being frozen are true. Most likely only be processed after early 2018 when new tests are ready. We are looking at extended wait times even if eligible under new rules. I'm trying to get confirmation from a migration agent I called Immigration on Monday and they confirmed that the calculator had been removed and that 'people are therefore experiencing difficulties applying online'. Nothing stopping us putting in a paper application in though not that i think it will make a difference with the processing but at least it will be submitted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevan Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Have we got a date when the decision from parliament is likely to be announced on these proposed changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatinabox Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, Bevan said: Have we got a date when the decision from parliament is likely to be announced on these proposed changes? Early 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 My son has still had no communication after his acknowledgement for lodging on the 20th. Anyone else had anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatinabox Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 2 hours ago, rammygirl said: My son has still had no communication after his acknowledgement for lodging on the 20th. Anyone else had anything? Its over, no more apps till 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian360 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, wombatinabox said: Its over, no more apps till 2018 No more applications until 2018? How do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatinabox Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ian360 said: No more applications until 2018? How do you know this? They now officially removed the online eligibility. You can technically apply by paper but apps after April 20 will be frozen anyway even if eligible under new rules until new tests are ready and approved early 2018. Looks like a very long wait period is ahead Waiting for final confirmation from agent but not looking good for post April 20 apps Edited April 27, 2017 by wombatinabox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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