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Hi 
  My parents have been granted (feb 17) Visitor visa (subclass 600).  They are currently outside Australia.
I plan to apply for Contributory Aged Parent (Temporary) (Subclass 884) or Contributory Aged Parent (Residence) (Subclass 864) for them .
 
Visitor Visa has 8503 - NO FURTHER STAY condition which will not allow me to apply for Subclass 884/864 visa when they are onshore and Subclass 884 visa says "You cannot apply for this visa if you already hold another visa that has a ‘No further stay’ condition."
Subclass 864 says "You must be in Australia at the time you apply for this visa. You can only apply if your temporary visa allows you to apply for another visa while you are in Australia. "
 
Does this mean I cannot apply for Subclass 884/864 for my parents at all? Why is that so? They are 69/68 years old and falls under Aged category. Thanks
 
Is my only option under Contributory visa is subclass 173/143 as they can be applied offshore? I think I am looking at 32 Months wait period for 173 if I go that path. Thanks
 
2nd Question - If I apply for subclass 173, will that cancel their Tourist Visa (subclass 600) How can they come to meet us in Australia while they are waiting for their subclass 173 visa outcome? Thanks
 
Thanks
Aman
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CPV143 - 25.05.2017, 1st VAC 31.05.2017, Receipt 31.05.2017, Acknowledged 31.05.2017

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In brief, an 8503 condition means they can't apply for a visa while they are in Australia.

Lodging an application for a visa doesn't cancel an already granted visa.

Best regards.


Managing Director, Go Matilda Visas - www.gomatilda.com

Registered Migration Agent Number 0102534; Registered Tax Agent (Australia)

Chartered Accountant (UK, and Australia)

T - 023 81 66 11 55 (UK) or 03 9935 2929 (Australia)

E - alan.collett@gomatilda.com and acollett@bdhtax.com

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1 minute ago, Alan Collett said:

In brief, an 8503 condition means they can't apply for a visa while they are in Australia.

Lodging an application for a visa doesn't cancel an already granted visa.

Best regards.

 

Thanks Alan for your reply. Does this mean that my parents can still come and go under Tourist Visa (600) while it take 2 1/2 - 3 years to settle subclass 173 CPV?  I was thinking applying for new visa cancels existing visa. Thanks


CPV143 - 25.05.2017, 1st VAC 31.05.2017, Receipt 31.05.2017, Acknowledged 31.05.2017

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Yes, they can.

Best regards.


Managing Director, Go Matilda Visas - www.gomatilda.com

Registered Migration Agent Number 0102534; Registered Tax Agent (Australia)

Chartered Accountant (UK, and Australia)

T - 023 81 66 11 55 (UK) or 03 9935 2929 (Australia)

E - alan.collett@gomatilda.com and acollett@bdhtax.com

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On ‎09‎/‎04‎/‎2017 at 16:26, amsaini15 said:
Hi 
  My parents have been granted (feb 17) Visitor visa (subclass 600).  They are currently outside Australia.
I plan to apply for Contributory Aged Parent (Temporary) (Subclass 884) or Contributory Aged Parent (Residence) (Subclass 864) for them .
 
Visitor Visa has 8503 - NO FURTHER STAY condition which will not allow me to apply for Subclass 884/864 visa when they are onshore and Subclass 884 visa says "You cannot apply for this visa if you already hold another visa that has a ‘No further stay’ condition."
Subclass 864 says "You must be in Australia at the time you apply for this visa. You can only apply if your temporary visa allows you to apply for another visa while you are in Australia. "
 
Does this mean I cannot apply for Subclass 884/864 for my parents at all? Why is that so? They are 69/68 years old and falls under Aged category. Thanks
 
Is my only option under Contributory visa is subclass 173/143 as they can be applied offshore? I think I am looking at 32 Months wait period for 173 if I go that path. Thanks
 
2nd Question - If I apply for subclass 173, will that cancel their Tourist Visa (subclass 600) How can they come to meet us in Australia while they are waiting for their subclass 173 visa outcome? Thanks
 
Thanks
Aman

Why not get them e-visitor visas and then apply for 864 visa when they are in Oz (do it within 3 months as e-visitor only valid for 3 mnth stay).  It worked for us.

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Thanks DVW. Parents are from India and hence they are not list of eligible countries to apply for evisitor visa. 


CPV143 - 25.05.2017, 1st VAC 31.05.2017, Receipt 31.05.2017, Acknowledged 31.05.2017

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Hi, Alan, Aman

I am from India. My sister is in AUS and brother in US. Both are citizens of those countries. I have applied for AUS PR and will be hopefully getting it by Jan. I stay with my mom (69 Yrs). I know I can pass the balance of family test only after I move to AUS and only then we can apply for her Contributory visa. 

I keep seeing that 600 visitors VISA wont allow for 864. My questions are:

1) Is there any Visa I can apply for so that I can get her to AUS and then apply for Contributory Visa along with BVA or BVB?

2) If option 1 is not possible, then what is the best way to apply for Contributory Visa such that she gets to spend maximum time in AUS with us till the VISA is granted? We don't want her to stay alone in India at 69.

Thanks,

Vinay.

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It is most unwise to make known on a public forum bringing a parent to Australia with the known intention of applying for a permanent residency visa.

You should understand that moving to Australia may result in you being apart from your mother for a period of some years.

Best regards.


Managing Director, Go Matilda Visas - www.gomatilda.com

Registered Migration Agent Number 0102534; Registered Tax Agent (Australia)

Chartered Accountant (UK, and Australia)

T - 023 81 66 11 55 (UK) or 03 9935 2929 (Australia)

E - alan.collett@gomatilda.com and acollett@bdhtax.com

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12 hours ago, Vin100 said:

Hi, Alan, Aman

I am from India. My sister is in AUS and brother in US. Both are citizens of those countries. I have applied for AUS PR and will be hopefully getting it by Jan. I stay with my mom (69 Yrs). I know I can pass the balance of family test only after I move to AUS and only then we can apply for her Contributory visa. 

I keep seeing that 600 visitors VISA wont allow for 864. My questions are:

1) Is there any Visa I can apply for so that I can get her to AUS and then apply for Contributory Visa along with BVA or BVB?

2) If option 1 is not possible, then what is the best way to apply for Contributory Visa such that she gets to spend maximum time in AUS with us till the VISA is granted? We don't want her to stay alone in India at 69.

Thanks,

Vinay.

She could apply offshore and pop over for regular visits. Lying to Immigration about your intentions to be a tourist when that’s not what she is actually planning can result in a long ban after being turned around at the border. Alternatively you could stay with her in India until she no longer needs you. 

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Do factor in, that she is of an age that may need healthcare far more than you, but she will not be entitled to Medicare while on a bridging visa and she may be on a bridging visa for many years - 5 to 8 

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