Tweedathart 19 Posted July 6, 2019 Hey guys. Is it normal to be waiting nearly 2 months for a decision after the status was changed to further assessment? Occupation: Teacher of Speakers of other Languages State: QLD Birth Country: UK Stream: 186 TRT Number of applicants: 2 ENS 186 Nomination applied:23/1/2019 ENS 186 Nomination approved: 30/3/2019 Visa Application submitted: 27/4/2019 S56 More Info Request: 4/ 5/2019 IMMI STATUS; FINALISED/ GRANTED 16/7/2019 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selim 0 Posted July 6, 2019 On 05/07/2019 at 16:07, Mick1983 said: Hi guys today I got nomination approval mail after almost 23 months.They asked new medical , AFP, evidence of relationship with partner submitted today Just wondering how many days it will take to finalise the visa? Hi admin , how can I update this on spreadsheets? Hi Mick, what kind of documents did you submitted for Evidence of Relationship with Partner..? Please help me .. I am in the same Boat! Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaggieMay24 1,518 Posted July 6, 2019 On 05/07/2019 at 10:49, Ayudante said: don't think that is entirely true @MaggieMay24 one of the conditions is you being with the employer for the next 2 years, Yes, circumstances may change and if you agree amicably you might part ways, but if you just leave the employer and contact Immigration and state that your intention was not genuine and get your visa revoked. Consult with migration agent to be certain. No, perhaps you are confusing the 186 with the 187. The 187 visa comes with greater powers for Immigration to cancel the visa if the visa holder doesn't make a genuine effort to remain with their employer for 2 years after the visa is granted. The same is not true for the 186 visa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jk000 9 Posted July 7, 2019 I got golden mail today ! 186 trt - cook Apply 457 cook : 30th Mar 2016 Approved 457visa : 28th Sep 2016 Submitted 186 application : 6th DEC 2018 Approved Nomination : 21st May 2019 Received additional information s56 ( afp, health check) : 21st May 2019 Submitted all information : 13th June. Approved pr 7th July 2019 1 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xushuang923 10 Posted July 7, 2019 co works on Sunday?wow !such a wonderful weekend! Congratulations! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhakalbinod 4 Posted July 7, 2019 36 minutes ago, Jk000 said: I got golden mail today ! 186 trt - cook Apply 457 cook : 30th Mar 2016 Approved 457visa : 28th Sep 2016 Submitted 186 application : 6th DEC 2018 Approved Nomination : 21st May 2019 Received additional information s56 ( afp, health check) : 21st May 2019 Submitted all information : 13th June. Approved pr 7th July 2019 Congratulations by the way after submitting request documents how many days takes to grant the pr? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RjayD 9 Posted July 7, 2019 Hi Guys, Happy to share that I had the best start to the weekend with the grant email coming through on Saturday morning. Application status went straight from received to finalized. No further information was requested. It took almost 7 months with Nomination being approved in April. Please update the same on the spread sheet. My data is in December with username RjayD. Wishing you all Good Luck with your grants. Cheers! RjayD 5 Occupation: Mechanical Engineer State: VIC Birth Country: HR Stream: ENS DE Offshore Number of applicants: 3 ENS 186 Nomination applied: 5 Dec 2018 Visa Application submitted: 11 Dec 2018 IMMI Status: Finalized , 6th July 2019 Processing Office: NSW PESE Nomination Approved on 9th April 2019 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jk000 9 Posted July 7, 2019 55 minutes ago, Dhakalbinod said: Congratulations by the way after submitting request documents how many days takes to grant the pr? 7 months 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baljinder jhajj 0 Posted July 7, 2019 Hi everyone I have a question I applied for 186 and 489. I done my medical for 489 is it need to update on 186 or bhupa will do thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhakalbinod 4 Posted July 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Jk000 said: 7 months No i mean submitting 56 request documents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KLE 0 Posted July 7, 2019 On 05/07/2019 at 07:27, MaggieMay24 said: Your 186 visa does not have any condition that states you must remain working with your employer. It needed to be your intention when you applied and when the visa was processing, but after the visa is granted you can leave your employer. Dear MaggieMay24, Are you a migrant agent or lawyer in Australia? I have been reading about ENS 186 cancellation everywhere. But I am still very confused. Please, I need true advice. I was on old 457, and I have my ENS 186 (TRT) granted three months ago. I have been working for Queensland Health as a registered nurse for almost 4 years. Now I’m thinking of leaving Queensland Health and relocate to NSW Health or agency nurse. Should I be worried about the visa cancellation?? If I leave Queensland Health soon, will I lose ENS 186 permanent residence?? If it shouldn't be a problem, do I have to tell the department that I have left?? Thank you. Kind regards, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davey5593 34 Posted July 7, 2019 11 hours ago, RjayD said: Hi Guys, Happy to share that I had the best start to the weekend with the grant email coming through on Saturday morning. Application status went straight from received to finalized. No further information was requested. It took almost 7 months with Nomination being approved in April. Please update the same on the spread sheet. My data is in December with username RjayD. Wishing you all Good Luck with your grants. Cheers! RjayD Great news man! Our timelines were quite similar in the end :) *************************************************************** 186 DE offshore Chemical Engineer 23311. Citizen of Canada, UK. Nomination lodged: Dec 7th 2018 Application lodged: Dec 14th 2018. Nomination approved: May 7th 2019 Further Docs requested: May 9th 2019 Further Docs submitted: May 28th 2019 Visa Grant: July 1st 2019 Immi status: Finalised Processing office: NSW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hex 572 Posted July 7, 2019 On 05/07/2019 at 16:18, jackgu310 said: Don't be nervous, nomination and visa will be approved at the same time. Sorry @jackgu310 this is not always the case. There are many cases when the 2 applications are approved months apart, in fact - there are many cases where the nomination is approved and then additional documents are requested for the visa. - They are 2 completely separate applications. Occupation: Developer Programmer Birth Country: SA (South Africa) Stream: 457 > 186 TRT > Citizenship Number of applicants: 4 (wife + 2 children: age 1 and 3) Visa and Nomination applied: January 9th 2018 Nomination approved: 8th October 2018 Visa Granted: 12 November 2018 - IMMI Status updated: Finalized (granted) Citizenship application: 1st January 2020 Test Date: 10/12/2020 (15min - 100% passed) Approved: 10/12/2020 (within 20min after I passed my test) Ceremony: 24th May 2021 - Complete ***Disclaimer*** I'm not a migration agent. When in doubt, seek advice from a professional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hex 572 Posted July 7, 2019 On 05/07/2019 at 20:48, Ajay88 said: Hi Hex. I am looking for information regarding 186 TRT. I applied 186 TRT as retail buyer and my nomination has been approved. My two year payslips shows weekly wages $1050 before tax but doesn’t show weekly hours. I am working 38 hours per week. Do you think guys CO can ask for weekly hours? The company I work for they already mentioned in the reference letter that I am working 38 hours per week. Please advise me what should I do as my Mara agent says CO will not ask for hours on payslips. Thanks @Ajay88 In my opinion - if you think it's important to your case, upload a letter stating the same (under additional information). - I have never heard of a case that had provided TOO much information. Besides, it could help avoid an extended wait (by if the CO does ask for evidence). Occupation: Developer Programmer Birth Country: SA (South Africa) Stream: 457 > 186 TRT > Citizenship Number of applicants: 4 (wife + 2 children: age 1 and 3) Visa and Nomination applied: January 9th 2018 Nomination approved: 8th October 2018 Visa Granted: 12 November 2018 - IMMI Status updated: Finalized (granted) Citizenship application: 1st January 2020 Test Date: 10/12/2020 (15min - 100% passed) Approved: 10/12/2020 (within 20min after I passed my test) Ceremony: 24th May 2021 - Complete ***Disclaimer*** I'm not a migration agent. When in doubt, seek advice from a professional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hex 572 Posted July 7, 2019 On 05/07/2019 at 23:09, Tapas said: Hi Guys Hello everyone Just joined this forum as my ENS 186 visa (TRT) application has been lodged on 4th June 2019 and I wanted to know what would be possible timeframe that I can expect for final decision. I had a look at the tracker in the spreadsheet whose link comes in with the welcome message but found that it has very few entries. I was just wondering if I am looking at the right tracker - can the forum members help me with the link to the visa tracker spreadsheet please? Also, from the posts in this forum I am getting a feeling that timeframe for final decision is extremely random and there is absolutely no way to tell if the decision is gonna take 2 months or 2 years! Bt still, I wanted to ask if someone has identified any pattern at all here - like if some occupations or nationalities or company sectors experience swift decision making and others do not? Being a newbie I'd love to hear thoughts of people around this one. Thanks everyone and good luck to all those waiting for the decision. Cheers! @Tapas Welcome! You hit the nail on the head with this one: "Also, from the posts in this forum I am getting a feeling that timeframe for final decision is extremely random and there is absolutely no way to tell if the decision is gonna take 2 months or 2 years" - No one can tell you for sure, you simply need to hold, hope for the best and and enjoy the ride... Occupation: Developer Programmer Birth Country: SA (South Africa) Stream: 457 > 186 TRT > Citizenship Number of applicants: 4 (wife + 2 children: age 1 and 3) Visa and Nomination applied: January 9th 2018 Nomination approved: 8th October 2018 Visa Granted: 12 November 2018 - IMMI Status updated: Finalized (granted) Citizenship application: 1st January 2020 Test Date: 10/12/2020 (15min - 100% passed) Approved: 10/12/2020 (within 20min after I passed my test) Ceremony: 24th May 2021 - Complete ***Disclaimer*** I'm not a migration agent. When in doubt, seek advice from a professional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hex 572 Posted July 7, 2019 On 06/07/2019 at 15:36, Tweedathart said: Hey guys. Is it normal to be waiting nearly 2 months for a decision after the status was changed to further assessment? @Tweedathart Unfortunately, i'd say no - it's typically longer! - There are the exceptions to the case (as there always are), however, in my experience - I've seen more "Further Assessment" cases take longer than 2 month + (easily) than others that are quicker. I'm sure it wasn't the news you wanted to hear but none the less, it's my experience. Holding thumbs and hoping for the best for you. 1 Occupation: Developer Programmer Birth Country: SA (South Africa) Stream: 457 > 186 TRT > Citizenship Number of applicants: 4 (wife + 2 children: age 1 and 3) Visa and Nomination applied: January 9th 2018 Nomination approved: 8th October 2018 Visa Granted: 12 November 2018 - IMMI Status updated: Finalized (granted) Citizenship application: 1st January 2020 Test Date: 10/12/2020 (15min - 100% passed) Approved: 10/12/2020 (within 20min after I passed my test) Ceremony: 24th May 2021 - Complete ***Disclaimer*** I'm not a migration agent. When in doubt, seek advice from a professional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hex 572 Posted July 7, 2019 7 hours ago, KLE said: Dear MaggieMay24, Are you a migrant agent or lawyer in Australia? I have been reading about ENS 186 cancellation everywhere. But I am still very confused. Please, I need true advice. I was on old 457, and I have my ENS 186 (TRT) granted three months ago. I have been working for Queensland Health as a registered nurse for almost 4 years. Now I’m thinking of leaving Queensland Health and relocate to NSW Health or agency nurse. Should I be worried about the visa cancellation?? If I leave Queensland Health soon, will I lose ENS 186 permanent residence?? If it shouldn't be a problem, do I have to tell the department that I have left?? Thank you. Kind regards, @KLE It is very unlikely that you will loose your PR if you leave your company. How it works is basically like this: - When you apply for sponsorship, you and your sponsor are basically agreeing that you will each stay with the other for a minimum of 2 years - after the PR is granted. --> This, however, is not law (they cannot make it law - for obvious reasons). --> If you leave your sponsor within 2 years after receiving PR, you need to make sure you do it the right way and on amicable terms. --> The only way things could get messy, whereby immigration would look into your case for leaving early, is if your sponsor (or someone on their behalf), lodge a complaint, indicating that you left the company and you had no intentions on ever staying the complete 2 years. --> If this is investigated and proven, then yes - you would loose your PR, however, I've never heard of a successful case. My opinion is this: Your sponsor put themselves on the line to sponsor you, the least you can do is to sit down with them, explain your situation and that you'd like to leave. - Then leave on good terms. If not - and the sponsor holds a grudge, things could get ugly. Occupation: Developer Programmer Birth Country: SA (South Africa) Stream: 457 > 186 TRT > Citizenship Number of applicants: 4 (wife + 2 children: age 1 and 3) Visa and Nomination applied: January 9th 2018 Nomination approved: 8th October 2018 Visa Granted: 12 November 2018 - IMMI Status updated: Finalized (granted) Citizenship application: 1st January 2020 Test Date: 10/12/2020 (15min - 100% passed) Approved: 10/12/2020 (within 20min after I passed my test) Ceremony: 24th May 2021 - Complete ***Disclaimer*** I'm not a migration agent. When in doubt, seek advice from a professional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michelle Gu 8 Posted July 7, 2019 Good morning everyone! Finally! We have received our PR yesterday night 9pm!!!!! Just wanna say thanks to everyone for your company here Really really appreciate every comment/advises you have shared with. And hope all your dream came true very soon!!! Occupation: Marketing Specialist Visa type: 186 ENS TRT Country risk: HR Number of Applicants: 2 Nomination submitted - 4/10/18 Visa submitted - 11/4/19 Nomination Approved - 10/05/19 Request for more information - 15/5/19 Requested documents submitted - 3/6/19 Visa Approved - 7/7/19 Processing office: Team 10, WA 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HokeyPokey 12 Posted July 7, 2019 On 06/07/2019 at 11:55, Tapas said: Thanks for the suggestion @davey5593 I think my application is as complete as it can be in current situation. My company has filed my application through PwC's Immigration consulting arm and I have also submitted all documents - police checks, IELTS scores as well as other supporting documents in first shot itself. The medical tests were done last week as well. From the looks of it, now all I can hope is to be on the 'early' pile. Fingers crossed! Cheers Hi Tapas, I'm not sure why I can't send you a message. I want to send you a pm. Occupation: ICT Business Analyst State: QLD Birth Country: HR Stream: 482 > 186 DE Number of applicants: 3 Visa and Nomination applied: 11 Jul 2019 Nomination approved: 27 Aug 2019 Visa Granted: 27 Aug 2019 IMMI Status: Finalized Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie6002 4 Posted July 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Hex said: Sorry @jackgu310 this is not always the case. There are many cases when the 2 applications are approved months apart, in fact - there are many cases where the nomination is approved and then additional documents are requested for the visa. - They are 2 completely separate applications. So @Hex do you see this often then? Similar cases to mine where the persons nomination and visa are being looked at at the same time? Further information was requested for both. I was hoping because of this, they may approve both at the same time as all further information has been submitted. Then again im aware there are no set rules. As i previously stated i was just seeing if anyone else in a similar position as myself as its seems to be rare. Cheers Occupation: Management Consultant State: NSW Birth Country: LR - England Stream: TRT Number of applicants: 2 ENS 186 Visa and Nomination applied: September 2018 Nomination: Further information requested 20th may 2019 and submitted 28th May 2019 - pending Team 13 Visa: Further Assessment: Further information requested 21st May 2019 and submitted 14th June 2019 - pending Team 1 (different case officer) Status: Further assessment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hex 572 Posted July 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Charlie6002 said: So @Hex do you see this often then? Similar cases to mine where the persons nomination and visa are being looked at at the same time? Further information was requested for both. I was hoping because of this, they may approve both at the same time as all further information has been submitted. Then again im aware there are no set rules. As i previously stated i was just seeing if anyone else in a similar position as myself as its seems to be rare. Cheers @Charlie6002 It's more common than you'd think - same thing happened with my case as well. You'd hope they'd get approved at the same time, however, I found that once things go into "Further Assessment" and a month or 2 pass, you MIGHT be in for a wait. - Only my opinion though (based off experience), lets hope i'm wrong. Occupation: Developer Programmer Birth Country: SA (South Africa) Stream: 457 > 186 TRT > Citizenship Number of applicants: 4 (wife + 2 children: age 1 and 3) Visa and Nomination applied: January 9th 2018 Nomination approved: 8th October 2018 Visa Granted: 12 November 2018 - IMMI Status updated: Finalized (granted) Citizenship application: 1st January 2020 Test Date: 10/12/2020 (15min - 100% passed) Approved: 10/12/2020 (within 20min after I passed my test) Ceremony: 24th May 2021 - Complete ***Disclaimer*** I'm not a migration agent. When in doubt, seek advice from a professional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBroc 11 Posted July 8, 2019 Out of curiosity, has anyone else had zero movement since getting that famous email back in April? I feel like that was a political move to appease people. Occupation: Sport Centre Manager State: NSW Birth Country: UK Stream: 457 - 186 TRT Number of applicants: 1 ENS 186 Nomination applied: 8th March 2019 Nomination Approved: 4th Sept 2019 Visa Applied: 4th Sept 2019 Visa Granted: 24 September 2019 IMMI Status: Finalized (granted) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KLE 0 Posted July 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Hex said: @KLE It is very unlikely that you will loose your PR if you leave your company. How it works is basically like this: - When you apply for sponsorship, you and your sponsor are basically agreeing that you will each stay with the other for a minimum of 2 years - after the PR is granted. --> This, however, is not law (they cannot make it law - for obvious reasons). --> If you leave your sponsor within 2 years after receiving PR, you need to make sure you do it the right way and on amicable terms. --> The only way things could get messy, whereby immigration would look into your case for leaving early, is if your sponsor (or someone on their behalf), lodge a complaint, indicating that you left the company and you had no intentions on ever staying the complete 2 years. --> If this is investigated and proven, then yes - you would loose your PR, however, I've never heard of a successful case. My opinion is this: Your sponsor put themselves on the line to sponsor you, the least you can do is to sit down with them, explain your situation and that you'd like to leave. - Then leave on good terms. If not - and the sponsor holds a grudge, things could get ugly. Hi Hex, Thank you for your reply. What do you think about Immi web site under your obligation (TRT), when you have this visa > What you must do on this visa (your obligations)? It says "We expect that you will work for your nominating employer for at least 2 years. If you don't, we might cancel your visa" Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hex 572 Posted July 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, KLE said: Hi Hex, Thank you for your reply. What do you think about Immi web site under your obligation (TRT), when you have this visa > What you must do on this visa (your obligations)? It says "We expect that you will work for your nominating employer for at least 2 years. If you don't, we might cancel your visa" Cheers @KLE Sorry, I don't understand your question. Also, I think I had (likely) already answered that in my previous post. Occupation: Developer Programmer Birth Country: SA (South Africa) Stream: 457 > 186 TRT > Citizenship Number of applicants: 4 (wife + 2 children: age 1 and 3) Visa and Nomination applied: January 9th 2018 Nomination approved: 8th October 2018 Visa Granted: 12 November 2018 - IMMI Status updated: Finalized (granted) Citizenship application: 1st January 2020 Test Date: 10/12/2020 (15min - 100% passed) Approved: 10/12/2020 (within 20min after I passed my test) Ceremony: 24th May 2021 - Complete ***Disclaimer*** I'm not a migration agent. When in doubt, seek advice from a professional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KLE 0 Posted July 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hex said: @KLE Sorry, I don't understand your question. Also, I think I had (likely) already answered that in my previous post. Hi Hex, Thank you very much for your previous answering. I mean I checked the Immigration web site (ENS 186 TR stream), which says that "We expect that you will work for your nominating employer for at least 2 years. If you don't, we might cancel your visa" Should I worry about this sentence? Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites